HELP FIND!!!!!!????

[Jim]

the only real way to solve this problem is to do one thing.  do the paytable test, this will match the chip to the reel strips and to the glass payouts.  for each winning combo the machine will show the 1 coin payout and the the max coin payout.

I have never run 1271 chip, so I couldn't explain how to do it.  I only use SP731's   all controls are through the switches on the front panel, you never have to use the reset key switch for anything.  even going through the individual menus, you use the change button to advance, the paytable test is automatic, everytime you press the spin button it will advance to the next winning combo and display the results.
if the results of this test are good, then it has to be a setting.

Bunker   you beat me to it     SCARY   we are thinking alike      took me to long to type this to discard it.

Jim

   

[stayouttadabunker]

The PAR sheet shows the 3 red 7's on expanded line # 40...
I'll try the physical stops under Reel-Strip Test <5> and see what happens.
I have the game installed next to my bench.

Be right back...

[stayouttadabunker]

Okay...I did a Paytable Test <4> on an SP1271 w/ an SS3354.

You hit the test button with the door open until you get to page <4> in the Coins Played window.
Then turn the reset key to see an "01" in the Winner Paid window (That's for the reel stop)
You also see a "1" in the Credits window ( That's for the 1st physical left-most reel strip) ,
then I entered 2/ 4/ 4/ into the Winner Paid and Credits windows
for the 3 reel stops:

Got a big fat zero for 1 coin played
and 100 credits for playing 2 coins.

I have no way of testing the game to see if it will lock up if I play 2 coins and hit the red 7's.
I am positive that only 1 coin was played when he hit the red 7's.

A lot of players forget that they're playing a 2 CBP  game and think that they will
get the Jackpot and all the winning payouts on the award glass for the second column -
and it happens much more often for the 3CBP games!
You won't believe how many times I've went down and explained to a player
that they needed to raise their bet to get the other larger payouts! 
                                     or
If he has played less than 10 games - he can go back into the "history" of the last 10 games played
and see what the "payout" was when he hit it.
I'll bet it will show that he played 1 coin?

Here's a short video clip I just made to show him how to perform a Paytable test on his 2CBP game...>>>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Yflxkcc8tmc&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Yflxkcc8tmc&rel=0</a>

[poppo]

Good video.  Just to clarify, I'm assuming those are not the correct reel strips though, as they did not stop on all 7s.

The only question though is did he HAVE to turn the key to get it to play again? He made it sound like he did. If so, and if he is playing 2 coins, then something else is screwy. I seem to recall someone else having a problem with proper payouts and ended up doing a clear to fix it. Not sure if it really needed a clear, or if there was just some obscure setting that was wrong (i.e. set up for progressive or something)

[stayouttadabunker]

Good video. Just to clarify, I'm assuming those are not the correct reel strips though, as they did not stop on all 7s

No...you're right Poppo - I just was trying to show how to perform the Paytable Test...
I have Double Diamond strips installed for a different game
but I installed a set of SP1271 and SS3354 for the Paytable Test.

On a side note>>> As I booted up the chips, the 1st reel came to a stop with the end of the strip 2 reel-stops above the the pay-line while the other two strip ends stopped on the pay-line.
That is normal for this particular game as it has a payout for 3 blanks.

[Jim]

bunker, poppo

in reply #2   his list of 12 chips     what is a bill validator enable/disable chip????   

can't say that I ever heard of one.  thought it was a set chip that did that!!!

Jim

[poppo]

bunker, poppo

in reply #2   his list of 12 chips     what is a bill validator enable/disable chip????   

can't say that I ever heard of one.  thought it was a set chip that did that!!!

Jim

I'm assuming it's just a generic set chip that someone labeled that way, like the ones you get on e-bay.

<edit> Actually it looks like it's not actually a chip, but just the description

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250984801367

Listing is for 12 chips (I numbered them)

Bill Validator enable/disable chip
1 Clear Ram chip
2 Set004 Video
3 Set007
4 Set015
5 Set016
6 Set026
7 Set038
8 Set041
9 Set058
10 Set086
11 Set088
12 Set090

[footballhi]

WOW y'all have been busy,i am using 2 coins and yes all is save as listed below,the 12 piece chip set i was asking if they would be a good idea i do not have and  chips .just the two that are in it. I HAVE NEVER  had a slot machine till  2 days ago. with  all you all helping ,every thing is working ,BUT THE 3X7s with  2 coins.i have tried to follow the info the best i can. here is a copy of what i have...This is what they all look like ,from the very first push self test botton..(maybe i have a problem somewhere else)    
                                  

                                               0
                                 2            1            0
                                 10          1            1
                                 10                        2
                                 50
                             8888        8888          8
                             this line of # keep cycling Thur all #
                                  0                         3
         this line tells me what EPROMS i have 4
                                                             5
                                               0           6
                              0600          1           7
                              1199          2          7
                              9999          3          7
                              1999          4          7
                              3000          5          7
                              0600                      8
                                00                       1
                              0  0                       0
                                 done with all points....                   I hope this is what you need to help me and ...THANKS AGAIN...

[footballhi]

I just did what the guy in the video did .going to see what happens with the 3x7s ...

[stayouttadabunker]

I just did what the guy in the video did .going to see what happens with the 3x7s ...

"That guy in the video" is a dumbass...I know him....

[footballhi]

I did the video and it check out just as it did in  video,the  1 coin payed 0 and  2  coin  payed  100  and the reels ended on the 3x red 7s in the test, THEN i played till i hit the  3xred 7s nothing in any window,just the candle,..the mixed 7s pays 50 coin and the  3 x3 bars pays 100 coin,all the others pays correct  just the 3xred 7s dose nothing but the candle.NOT SURE ABOUT THE FLAMING 7s never hit them.i am sure you guys have heard enough for me but  i am  doing my  best to understand all this...THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP...

[CaptainHappy]

I just did what the guy in the video did .going to see what happens with the 3x7s ...

"That guy in the video" is a dumbass...I know him....

Bunker,

Do we have you beating yourself up now? Are you trying to say: "I resemble that remark!"? I say that all of the time!  

CH

[poppo]

                                              0
                                 2            1            0
                                 10          1            1
                                 10                        2
                                 50
                             8888        8888          8
                             this line of # keep cycling Thur all #
                                  0                         3
         this line tells me what EPROMS i have 4
                                                             5
                                                 0           6
                              0600          1           7
                              1199          2          7
                              9999          3          7
                              1999          4          7
                              3000          5          7
                              0600                      8
                                00                       1
                              0  0                       0
                      

Ok, hold on. Look at the denomination. It's set to zero. That may be the problem.

What value of coins/tokens is this using?

[footballhi]

hey all  i am going  to go ahead and order some new  GAME AND REEL CHIPS do you all have some advice on  what all i should get .I need some in put . should i get a clear chip and what ever else is advisable to have on hand....

[footballhi]

25 cent ,,, so i need the 6 set to what??

[poppo]

25 cent ,,, so i need the 6 set to what??

It should be 25. But you need a set chip to change it. Any of these will do.
SET088, SET089, SET090, SET091, SET101, SET102, SET116, or SET121

I'm not 100% sure that is the problem, but it's not right. Does this machine have a bill validator? If so, does it work and give the proper number of credits?

[footballhi]

yes it has one ,but it dose not work,it make noise when boot up .i understand i need a chip to fix it.I do not have any other chips all those ones in a earlyer post was some i was asking you all should i get them.i need to order some but i am waiting till i understand just what too order.

[poppo]

Well, you do need a set chip to enable the BV and set the denomination. But now I'm not so sure that is the problem. Maybe someone else can chime in on the possibility. I've never not had a BV, so I don't know what effects having it set to zero would be (if any) other than affecting the BV.

So, I would try to get a hold of a clear chip and a SET090. And in this case, I would probably do a clear and just start all over. You will probably have better luck putting a WTB in the classifieds here than going on e-bay.


<edit>
The only other thing I would try is setting the
1199          2          7
to
0999      2         7
Since the top award is 1000, maybe setting it higher is screwing something up.

[footballhi]

ok  thanks poppo,i'll get a clear chip and a set090 chip.and what ever else you all think  is best to have i also am going to update the rell and game chips if it is better to do so... thanks again to all....

[poppo]

See my ninja edit above.

The game chip you have is fine and the reel chip seems to be a high %, so I think you are good to go on those.

[footballhi]

ok thanks  POPPO

[Neonkiss]

Footballhi,
Where are you located in Florida?
I may be close too you.
If you wish you can reply in the open forum or by PM

[footballhi]

chiefland fla 32626....

[stayouttadabunker]

...THEN i played till i hit the  3xred 7s nothing in any window,just the candle,..the mixed 7s pays 50 coin and the  3 x3 bars pays 100 coin,all the others pays correct~~~just the 3xred 7s dose nothing but the candle....

"Just the candle"

I still think you are getting the "Hand-Pay" mode...why? I don't know why because
you have all the settings and limits set high enough.
Also, you've changed the wins to be displayed on the credits window?
If so, then I wonder why you're not seeing the "100" in the display?
Please check your settings again -to see if they're enabled.

Is the game "locking up" and are you getting the candle to stop flashing by turning the reset key?
I'm wondering what you are doing when you see the candle flashing? 

I have one more question...>>> When you hit the 3 red 7's, are you playing 2 coins or 1 coin?
I would like you to try to play the "Max" bet of 2 coins for every pull - until we figure this out.

[Neonkiss]

chiefland fla 32626....

Ya, sorry too far from me. I'm at the other end of the State.

I do believe that a full clear and set chip will get the machine back to factory settings. This may be one of those cases where a Clear may be the only solution.