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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2012, 05:54:33 PM »
Sonds great but what about the fiber optic cables that run out of back of the display? 1 comes out of 'host' other comes out of 'ethernet'
Ive read everything and searched everywhere but cant figure it out.
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2012, 06:48:00 PM »
Well I was no help in the PM... It has been so long since I played with Mikohn stuff that I can't remember S#$%! I vaugely remember doing some research trying to help someone in that quoted thread. Duh! arrow

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2012, 07:19:08 PM »
Np cap'n, thx anyway. Your other stuff was very helpful.
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2012, 07:37:13 PM »
Quote from: IGTfanman777 on June 02, 2012, 05:54:33 PM
Sonds great but what about the fiber optic cables that run out of back of the display? 1 comes out of 'host' other comes out of 'ethernet'
Ive read everything and searched everywhere but cant figure it out.

According to the Supreme manual (which at this point is the closest there is), these would go to J5/J6 (or J7) on the Logic board.  I see in your picture that there are two wires already in those slots.  Where do those lead to?
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2012, 08:38:53 PM »
The splitter board (and I have a few) is only needed if you are trying to run to multiple display controllers.

Slot <---> Con2I -- Display out  ----> Splitter -----> ChamII ---> Display
                                                    Splitter -----> ChamII ---> Display
                                                    Splitter -----> ChamII ---> Display

I would drop the splitter out of your configuration as its not needed.
Slot <---> Con2I -- Display out  ----> ChamII ---> Display

The CON2I (please NOTE the I) - the I means IGT and you need the I version if your machine is an IGT
- lots of CON2's around but not many of the CON2I's
A Con2I will run you 600+ some I have seen sell for more than 1K

THe only reason you would need the CON2I is that you have a bank of slot machines and you wish to run a linked progressive.

An alternative to the CON2I would be a CHAMII+. The plus model is a single slot standalone controller.
The plus model can be put into NON-SA configuration if you later decide to buy numerous slots and link the progressives together.

Slot <---> ChamII+ ---> Display

What you have not shown us is the back of the display.  This will help the team identify what kind of display it is.

The most common display like yours is called a supreme.
A supreme uses two forms of input. THe first is a program called DOWNLOADER which allows you to download graphics into the display.
You connect your PC directly to the display for this.

The second is the CHAMII+ which provides the progressive information to the display.

The absence of the progressive information generates the C1 or C10 error.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2012, 09:34:53 PM »
His machine is a Mikohn if I remember right
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2012, 02:27:46 AM »
ok gentlemen thank you very much for joining to help. i got detailed photos of display and SMIB board. as of right now minus splitter this is all that i have for the progressive so far. its all that came with machine. ill start with backside of display. this is every port on backside

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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2012, 02:29:18 AM »
sorry this posted twice Smiley

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2012, 02:31:50 AM »
bottom of display. its a fat enclosed display. not like others ive seen called 'meters'

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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2012, 02:46:04 AM »
This might help a bit.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030322010055/http://www.neurizon.net/

Looks like it comes from Oz

I have never run across this before.
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2012, 02:57:42 AM »
thx jay ill check it out. 1st heres my smib pics detailed. ty

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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2012, 02:59:00 AM »
another

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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2012, 03:00:36 AM »
j6 i think. wierd how it ends to a very tiny board.

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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2012, 03:02:41 AM »
connector plugged in to MB i think. came like this

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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2012, 03:06:03 AM »
sorry if its too many photos. last one. my display 'neurizon'.
this was in casino in 2006 im sure. cant find any documentation on it whatsoever.

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« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2012, 03:09:52 AM »
holy crap jay!! wow. right after i said cant find any documentation. thx man! sorry, was photoing my pics before i looked.  Duh!
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« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2012, 03:21:07 AM »
Quote from: jay on June 03, 2012, 02:46:04 AM
I have never run across this before.

Yikes!  Jay taught me everything I know, so if he doesn't know, I definitely don't know.  I so want to see if we could work through it and get it working.  I've seen these KISS machines out here in Vegas, but not in a while.  They're really cool.  I hope someone who knows about these finds this post.

In the meantime, I don't want to assume anything.  Pictures are great!    yes  I'm wondering now though if that's a motherboard?

Typically, the motherboard is a very small board attached to the back wall of the machine.  There's not a lot going on the MB unlike PC's.  They're more like a backplane that holds the main microprocessing board.  The microprocessor board has all of the game and graphic chips attached to a removeable tray that pushes into the MB.  Since this hooks to a wire and I see another gray wire inside the machine, can you take a picture of the inside of the machine, particularly where the other end of that "MB" wire goes?  Maybe you have another box inside the machine that is the missing "controller"?  I'm stretching and probably overly optimistic, but just like a gambler, I'm always thinking ... maybe this next hand? yes
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« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2012, 01:08:55 PM »
I'm working on a sunday Sad ill try and trace that connector better tonight. That was my assumption that it ran to mb, but your right i need to know for sure. All the input from everyone here is much appreciated. Ill be saving what jay typed for sure.  applause
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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2012, 01:48:54 PM »
Oh sorry dave forgot to mention, that other grey wire is unused from end to end. I have no idea what the casino techs used it for. 1 end looks like the connector from my photo we were talking about, and the other end has like 5 small female slip on connectors. Ill send photo tonight. Its unused but Could be for progressive aswell?
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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2012, 12:38:11 AM »
ok heres the unused grey cable ends. the connectore are different then i described. they look like they might be for a progressive card. theres 4 not 5. im holding them all together to shows ID's.

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« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2012, 12:39:17 AM »
heres the other end

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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2012, 12:40:44 AM »
and heres shots of the progressive setup in cabinet menu as discussed couple days ago if this helps.

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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2012, 12:42:03 AM »
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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2012, 09:25:47 PM »
ok last night i plugged in the card, splitter, and phone jack to ethernet cable into dispaly and i got this!
positive sign?
all i need is a controller possibly?
anyone seen this message box on a uv1700 progressive setup?

it wont let me play of course ,hence it says its locked out. but it looks like maybe i got the supreme/ logic card doing what it supposed too.
i still get C1 error though, as nothing is going iinto RS-485 host port.
when i unplug the logic card the lockout goes away and i can even leave the 'mikohn/PGI' progressive option on.

I hope you guys are still watching this post! wave
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« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2012, 02:10:18 PM »
Hey, did you ever get this working or get your CON2i?  I see someone posted a WTS at ...

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=18933.msg156851;topicseen#new
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