Bally E2290 won't coin up/goes into tilt (FIXED)

[BR549 Auto Sales]

I have this machine that shows 50 .0.00 on the win meter and when I drop a quarter in it, it goes to the hopper but the tilt light comes on. I did the (2) test and all solenoids are pulling in etc. Also, the led lights on the reel boards are not on that may be part of the problem as well

Thanks,

David

[FOXSSLOTS1]

are you getting anything other than 50 on the win meter when you go into tilt?  try running machine in 8 mode.
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[BR549 Auto Sales]

No, just the 50 000. How do I run it the 8 mode?

[Amachanic]

Use the test button on the hopper board. Push it till you see an 8 in your win meter. At this point you should be able to drop a coin in or click the coin switch wire coin up the machine. You can do this with the door open. Pull the handle to test machine. I should play but won't pay out.

Gary

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Ok, I tried that, got the 8 in the win meter hit the coin switch and even dropped a coin through the chute, went to the hopper, but the pull angle stayed in the locked position and would not allow to play a game. After that, the 8 remained in the window

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Anything else I can try for this problem?

Thanks,

David

[Amachanic]

When you ran test 2 did you watch to see if the solenoid for your handle release worked? There is a test you can run, I think it's 3 that allows you to test your switches. I don't have my manual in front of me so I'm not 100% on the test number. It should show you if you coin switch works

Gary
 

[BR549 Auto Sales]

I am not where the machine is right now, but will check and watch for the solonoid for the handle release. Does someone have info on the #2 and #3 test sequence in order?

Thanks,

David

[BR549 Auto Sales]

on the #2 test sequence, everything seems to be activating, guess I will check my wiring next unless someone knows of something else I can do.

[Amachanic]

on the #2 test sequence, everything seems to be activating, guess I will check my wiring next unless someone knows of something else I can do.

Run test 3.. That will allow you to check your doors coin switch.. I would also check the coin switch trip wire to make sure it's not too far down. If it is the coin could pass before it counts the coins..

[BR549 Auto Sales]

Ok, back in front of this machine again. Ran the 2 test and the dolomite for the handle did work, ran the 3 test and the coin switch worked, ran the 8 test and all it would show in the window was 80 000, not the 82 000 like themanual said it should. I also tried the coin switch while in the 8 test and it stayed on 80 000.
Anything else I can check? It seems to me that the machine does not realize that it is ready for play/accept a coin mode

[BR549 Auto Sales]

During my #3 test, my kick switch, #10 is not showing in the display when I close the switch, could this be part of the problem?

[Amachanic]

It is possible. You can try swapping it with the arm switch. The other thing you can do it check it with a meter. If it reads good on the meter then check for a broken wire.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

I tried the arm switch in it's place, same results, not showing in the window when the switch is closed.

[Amachanic]

Then it sounds like you need to check the wiring from the switch to the molex plug on the back of the reels and from the plug back to the I/O board.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

If I don't find a wire issue then could it be a component on the IO board?

[Amachanic]

If I don't find a wire issue then could it be a component on the IO board?

It's possible.. If you look at page 54 of the E-Series Manual you will see that the Kick and arm switch wires are on J-3 Inputs, pins 1 & 2.. Check that connection for corrosion or a broken wire..

[BR549 Auto Sales]

will do thanks

[BR549 Auto Sales]

One leg on this resistor on the coin switch is not soldered to anything, could that be the issue as well?

[Amachanic]

I don't know if that's the problem, but the one end is soldered to the grey wire on the coin divertor just behind the switch. The other end is soldered to the left post on the coin switch, at least that's how the one is in my kitchen.. 

[BR549 Auto Sales]

thanks for that info, i will solder it back and also look for a broken or damaged wire on the kick switch.

[BR549 Auto Sales]

the problem was the white wire with a green trace on the bottom switch at the rear of the hopper. I traced it all the way back to the IO board and it was not snug in the red connector, pushed it down into the connector. Now it works fine, but when I drop a coin in, shouldn't it "ding" for each coin dropped? Also when I hit a payline, it shows the correct payout on the win meter but drops anywhere from 2-5 extra coins more than it should.

[Amachanic]

 Cool that you found the loose wire at the plug    as for the coin ding I've had only a few machine do that but I do remember on my Continental if I turned off switch 1 on the MPU I could turn the ding off. Now for the hoppers over pay check these 2 things. First check the metal piece what the coin goes under, it has 2 Phillips screw holding it in place. Make sure it's close enought to the coin wheel so only one coin will go under it. I think it's call a wiper. Then second on the bottom of the hopper motor is a brake. Make sure it's not broken and moves freely and that the springs hooked up. I guess there is a third thing too, make sure the hoppers coin switch is adjusted correctly. When a coin is on the wheel shelve at the knife it goes under a roller that should roll freely. Make sure the switch counts each coin. K+ for the Good work and keep us posted.

Gary

[BR549 Auto Sales]

when you said check the bottom of the hopper, the brake, was you talking about the level switch?

[Amachanic]

when you said check the bottom of the hopper, the brake, was you talking about the level switch?

If you turn the hopper over and look at it there is a flat metal spring loaded bracket. If you push that down you can rotate the hopper shelve wheel, and when you let go of it the shelve wheel stops rotating. Make sure those pivot points on the hopper motor move freely and are not sticking.