Free Play????

[cjbandkjb]

I have recently received a Ballys' S6000 Triple Money machine. The man i received it from did not tell me of all the problems with the machine, but did say it worked and that it could be either free play or pay to play. i dont know much about these machines but after lots of tests and trials, me and my son got it to the point that all we need is a new coin comparator. I am waiting for this comparator to arrive in the mail, and i was wondering how i would go about switching the machine from pay to play to free play. i will provide pictures if you tell me what to show, but you will need to be somewhat specific.
PLEASE HELP!

[coorslight115]

Touchy subject as there are many free play items out there. Some made by Bally and a lot made by users..Not knowing what you have, most will not want to touch this subject..All the pictures you can take of the item that look add on to you, and all around the coin mech and buttons may show us something. Just a place to start but no promisises

[cjbandkjb]

ok, im going to go take pictures of as much of it as i can

[cjbandkjb]

the first is the machine and the second is of all the cords next to the coin comparitor that doesnt work.

[cjbandkjb]

above the previous wires (goes to playing buttons)
and the non working comparitor, i know it doesnt work because the green light doesnt light up, ever.

[cjbandkjb]

two sucky views of behind the reels (best i could get.)

[cjbandkjb]

underneath the mother board box thingy, close up and further back

[cjbandkjb]

next to the third reel and the door

[cjbandkjb]

mother board thing and behind the triple money glass on the front of the machine

[cjbandkjb]

closer views of the parts in the last pic, need more or other views of stuff?

[rjpohl]

There's a "coin" switch on the front on the CPU board.  Make sure it is in the up position.

[cjbandkjb]

There's a "coin" switch on the front on the CPU board.  Make sure it is in the up position.

are you talking about the buttons on the front of the big board that say Test, coin mech, Pseudo coin, and reset?

[rjpohl]

Yes,  the coin switch needs to be in the up position for  accepting coins.

[cjbandkjb]

Yes,  the coin switch needs to be in the up position for  accepting coins.

yes, i know that, the coin comparitors cap. is dead though, so i had to replace it, im trying to figure out how to get free play for the time being

[OldReno]

There might be a little white button on your coin optic board below your comparitor that will give you handle release if you push it once.
Of course, if it's there, and if it works, you will have to push it once for every coin in.  Not quite a free play, but I don't know any other way.
Is there any free play function in diagnostics or test??? I don't recall.
Usually, if you replace that big cap on the comparitor, that will fix it.  You can probably get one from Radio shack, just make sure it's polarized and you put it in the right way.

[cjbandkjb]

There might be a little white button on your coin optic board below your comparitor that will give you handle release if you push it once.
Of course, if it's there, and if it works, you will have to push it once for every coin in.  Not quite a free play, but I don't know any other way.
Is there any free play function in diagnostics or test??? I don't recall.
Usually, if you replace that big cap on the comparitor, that will fix it.  You can probably get one from Radio shack, just make sure it's polarized and you put it in the right way.

the guy that had given me the machine said there was a way to switch it to function as a free play machine, i see the button yoou are talking about and i have used it to test that the machine works after fixing all the other problems, and as for replacing the big cap...i learned that in my research but in order to do that id have to get a soldering gun/iron, so i opted to just buy a new comparitor, thank you though!
and how would i go through the diagnostic/test stuff youre talking about?

[OldReno]

Should be a test button somewhere on the MPU board.  Push it once, you go into test 1, twice for test 2, etc.  You should see the display on the front of machine change as you push the button.
Somewhere on NLG there should be a file on this I suspect.
It used to be test 1 is inputs,
Test 2 outputs
Test 3 hopper
etc. etc., but I haven't worked on one of these for a long time.
Contact the seller and ask him how to put in free play mode.  Or maybe someone here has a chart of the tests?
Sometimes the buttons on the door will allow you to toggle between tests, too, but I don't remember the model for that.  Look to see which ones light up when you go into test and then play around with it while you watch your displays.
Is test 8 free play anyone?

[cjbandkjb]

Should be a test button somewhere on the MPU board.  Push it once, you go into test 1, twice for test 2, etc.  You should see the display on the front of machine change as you push the button.
Somewhere on NLG there should be a file on this I suspect.
It used to be test 1 is inputs,
Test 2 outputs
Test 3 hopper
etc. etc., but I haven't worked on one of these for a long time.
Contact the seller and ask him how to put in free play mode.  Or maybe someone here has a chart of the tests?
Sometimes the buttons on the door will allow you to toggle between tests, too, but I don't remember the model for that.  Look to see which ones light up when you go into test and then play around with it while you watch your displays.
Is test 8 free play anyone?

okay, thank you, im going to go try this out. and the seller doesnt reply because he slicked one over me and gave me a busted machine, its almost back in working order though thanks to lots of research and this site

[cjbandkjb]

so that didnt work, just confused me :/

[OldReno]

S'ok, someone with one of these should answer you eventually.
So, does it work if you put a bill in the bill validator with the door closed?

[cjbandkjb]

S'ok, someone with one of these should answer you eventually.
So, does it work if you put a bill in the bill validator with the door closed?

well, im not sure....the largest bill i currently have is a single, and my bill validator takes $5's and up....so im not able to check, it will feed in the single, but then spit it out, if thats in anyway important....? 

[OldReno]

That's a very good sign.

[cjbandkjb]

any ideas on free play????

[OldReno]

Other than put a $20 in and take it back out, I don't know. 
Maybe there's some way to wire your bet button onto the pseudo coin switch?

[cjbandkjb]

the guy i bought it from (who no longer replies) said there was some quick switch i had to do and it would work