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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2009, 05:12:50 PM »

Hello!

That's the one!  And yes this was a S2000 machine - I'm surprised they worked at all in a S+.

Yes, an IGT S+ and S2000 use different bulbs for the buttons and also have different voltages.  Both machines use a T 3-1/4 size - I believe a S2000 uses a #161 and is 12 volts and a S+ uses a#555/295 and is 6 volts.  I also had to "flip" or bend the wires to the other side on the bulb because of the polarity and the way the socket is.

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2009, 05:17:43 PM »

Dpalmi,
I would like to ask you....are the button panel lights on a S2000 VAC or VDC?
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2009, 05:27:42 PM »

I would like to ask you....are the button panel lights on a S2000 VAC or VDC?

I am positive the S2000 is DC but I thought the S+ was also DC, but that one I'm not positive on that one....

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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2009, 05:38:13 PM »

Okay,
I the readings I posted earlier are right off from my S+ with a voltage meter set on VAC.
When I set the voltage meter to VDC when trying to read the lights, I get zeros - which means the S+ button panel lights are definitely VAC voltages.
I also put a 7 colored bulb on my DC benchtop power supply.
I got the colored bulbs to light up and change colors (as they should), when 6VDC power was applied directly to the bulb.
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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2009, 06:43:58 PM »

Mark   the voltages in the S+ are vac,  7vac   #86/ #555/ #259  are 6.3 volt bulbs

S-2000  are a higher voltage,  there bulbs are #73/ #658 / #161 are 14volt bulbs 

Went to JKLlamps.com website, they sell the led replacements for .75 @ piece, and have different colors   but only in the 12 volt range.

> have not purchased any so I don't know how they are.
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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2009, 07:01:36 PM »

Okay...
This is what I understand so far...

The voltages are higher in a S2000, but what is not known is whether it is AC or DC voltages. Scratch Head

The only thing I know for sure is that the S+ uses 7VAC for the button panel lights, and the colored LED bulb wont work properly unless I can somehow boost it's button light voltages perhaps by jumping and adding some power from the nearby/unused shadow light box harness? Scratch Head

I gotta do some digging around... stir the pot / get cooking
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2009, 08:37:37 PM »

You could use a relay.
You use the button voltage to turn on the relay which then switches on voltage from another source. Even a external power adapter would work. It would have to come from the slot.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2009, 09:13:03 PM »

You are right Jay,
Because drawing VAC power from the shadow box harness will not not work....
it's continuous power would keep the red LED light "ON" on the button's LED light.
I had wanted to put this 7 colored LED in the MAX button light.
The MAX button is already using a relay for when I want to play the "auto-play" switch/relay I have there.
But using a small relay similar to the "auto-play" relay,  and drawing 6VDC from another source - would definitely work!
That MAX button is really getting a workout... Tongue Out
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« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2009, 12:27:40 AM »

Well, I got a pack of those leds and as Dan #2 said you have to reverse the polarity of the contacts. It looks pretty darn good, but you can notice the led focus on the back of the legend in some of the color modes. If I remember correctly, according to another member here, name escapes me (CRS) this focus may cause a problem with the legend plastic that may include starring and melting? Will have to keep an eye on it or maybe figure out a diffusing item between led and legend. K+ to Dan #2.

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« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2009, 12:36:18 AM »

Tac,
You put the LEDs in a S2000 right? I wonder....
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« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2009, 12:38:52 AM »

Yes, I put it in the Max Bet button on one of my S2000's

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« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2009, 12:41:01 AM »

Drat...you S2000 guys have it so easy.... Tongue Out
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