Question regarding error 21

[stayouttadabunker]

If you look at the "Bible" for the Bonus Sizzling 7's and the Haywire games - those use specific SP chips other than your 5XPay.
The other games are of a different TYPE.

See this...>>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gametypes.htm

add...>>> I didn't realize that you're looking at S2000's now...that's a totally different platform, but it's like comparing apples and oranges...S2000's are able to use SP chips but were NOT designed for that really - the S2000's normally use different software chips.

[MikeCamp]

Oh, not looking for S2000 for this application.  I just have the collecting of machines bug so I'm keeping my eye out for decent deals.  I'm really looking for a S2000 Round Top Triple Double Wild Cherry but I'm putting that on the back burner until I get this little project machine taken care of.

Mike

[stayouttadabunker]

ok,
then you need to posted a WTB ad for a few things to get this up and running.
1). one working 10MHz S+ MPU board.
2). An SP731 with the accompanying SET015 chip.
3). A Clear chip...you may or may NOT need it in the future.

May I ask, does this S+ have a coin hopper? It might be worth a trade?
I may be interested in all the Barcrest parts you've removed?
PM me if you want.

[MikeCamp]

It has a hopper but no coin mech.  I've asked out local guy if he has that and how much.  Right now I'm using a home made plug as you suggested to get past that 21 error.  Let me get past some of this and we can discuss the Barcrest parts.  I like the glass and think it may be worth something the internal parts don't care about those but also have no clue if they are any good or not.

Mike

[Buzz]

Bunker  Are you saying there isn't not one SP type 0 chip that will work on a 16 meg board ?? ( Wish I knew what I did with my SP chart )

[MikeCamp]

Baby Steps is the order of the day.  Ok, picked up a new CPU board 10Mhz with a SP831 chip, installed my SS6273 chip.  Put it in the system, powered it on and error code 12.  Took out the board, swapped with a known good battery put it back in and got the normal assortment of 61, 65-2, etc... got those all cleared and light was not on the Bill validator (I don't have coins so got out the Set Chip).  Went thru the process to turn on the BV and set the denom to .25.  Powered it all off, put the game chip back in and powered it back up.  Reels spun, insert coin light lite, bill validator light came on.  I was ready to ... well lets just say I was pretty happy with myself.  Pull out a dollar, insert it and it spit it back out at me.  Tried numerous dollars, does not like any of them.  Below is a picture of the BV.
Sticker on the left says:  ID022/23  WBA  V1.26-O2H  Sticker on the right says:  91701200  REV A  9.98.  I think you can see the front what it sayes.

Any ideas why she won't take my money?

So close but yet so far.

Mike

[cowboygames]

Do you have credit limits set?

[Buzz]

It could be the micro switch on the cash box door. You know I would almost rather have my dilly wacker caught in a zipper than to cut a wire, but those two need to be cut and connected togeather.

[MikeCamp]

Buzz, I'm not sure, I tried to go into the game last night and setup the settings as outlined in the most popular settings for home users.  Seems like for this chip SP831 the menu's are a little different.  I'll do some more digging.  I'm almost there, just a couple small step left to go.

Thanks for all y'alls help.
Mike

[knagl]

His cash box switch is fine. The validator wouldn't attempt to take a bill if it thought it was open (the machine would think the main door is open and wouldn't enable the validator).

Are you trying a $1 bill in good condition? I would not try any other denomination besides a $1 for now. Does the validator hold the bill for a second or two before it rejects it, or does it reject it immediately? Does the Insert Coins light flash at all during the process?

[stayouttadabunker]

Bunker  Are you saying there isn't not one SP type 0 chip that will work on a 16 meg board ?? ( Wish I knew what I did with my SP chart )

To answer Buzz's question above...
I think there are very, very few SP chips of TYPE 0 that work with the 16MHz board.
The only ones that I see on my list are:

SP1019 TYPE 0,1,4,5 16MHz ID023 SET077/SET078   $0.01/0.05
SP1145 TYPE 0,1,4,5 16MHz ID023 SET088/SET089/SET090/SET091  $0.01/0.05
SP1147 Unverified (no other info at this time)
SP1272 TYPE 0,1,4,5 16MHz

The only ones I've ever tested on a 16MHz MPU board was the SP1019, and the SP1272...I have not tried the other 2 listed.
I know for sure that the SP1019 works for TYPE 0 reel chips on the 16MHz MPU...
I don't remember how the SP1272 works but that SP number sticks in my head for some reason.
I think because it's so close to the more popular SP1271 used often on 10MHz TYPE 0 games.

[CVslots]

It could be the micro switch on the cash box door. You know I would almost rather have my dilly wacker caught in a zipper than to cut a wire, but those two need to be cut and connected togeather.

Wow...that sounds painful...

[MikeCamp]

knagl - The bill goes in and immediately comes right back out.  The light on the BV goes off while the bill goes in.  The Insert Coins light stays steady.

Mike

[Jim]

from the picture it appears that you have a WBA-11,  if memory serves me right, that unit could select between a IDO-22 and IDO-23, perhaps thats why your unit will not accept the money?

check what position switch 1 is set at. (on the right side of the transport unit, there should be a dip switch with 8 switches )  toggle switch 1 to the other position and give it a try.


Hope this helps

Jim 

[MikeCamp]

Thanks Jim,

Gave it a shot, switched switch 1 from off to on, opposite of what it was.  No joy   Probably something in my setup is wrong but I just can't find it because I'm not real good with the S-Plus setup.

Mike

[MikeCamp]

   Well got the BV issue resolved on this machine.  Bought a couple other machines this weekend and one of them had a similar bill validator on it, yesterday I tried swapping transport and all, would not fit, today after reading I learned you could pull the acceptor head so I swapped that piece and now my machine is sucking up dollar bills at a rate equal to those machines in good old Las Vegas.  Just glad I have the key to the door   My project is almost done.  Now get my coins working on it and a light installed in the upper box and it should be done.

Thank you all for your help,
Mike

[stayouttadabunker]

Ah! That's good news Mike! 
Always happy to hear a fellow member get their machine running the way they want to! 

[MikeCamp]

Here is a picture of the machine after I got the bill validator working and the coin mech installed.  Its been a big hit.

Thanks to all for your help, could not have done it without ya!

Mike