Help to identify IGT machine

[Jokerpoker]

Okay now i understand a bit more, on the note of the card images. I'd love to know how to re-program the chip and change the image. I'm guessing that would be a mission??

[knagl]

You'd have to read the chips in a chip burner/reader and then reverse engineer them.  It'd be more of an undertaking than the average person would want to try to get in to, I'm sure.  If you're particularly computer savvy, it could be done.  I've seen it done, but don't have the slightest idea personally how to do it.

[Jokerpoker]

Yeah i think i'll leave it standard. Do you have any thoughts on the error i get when i insert the other boards "Expanded I.O faulty"

The blue moon game comes up but it says call attendant "Exapanded I.O faulty"

[knagl]

No idea, sorry.  That's not a typical PE or PE+ error.  Is there an expansion (secondary) board on that board?  I'm just grasping at straws, unfortunately.

[Jokerpoker]

Hi, no theres not there just that board and the mother board.

I'll have a closer look at where the plugs go in, perhaps there is a damaged pin.

Also I have another board and when i insert it all i get just a blurry colored screen do you have any clues on that?

Cheers for help by the way.

[knagl]

Also I have another board and when i insert it all i get just a blurry colored screen do you have any clues on that?

I'm sorry, I wish I did.

If the boards are all physically the same, and you have a working board, you could try putting the software from the non-working boards on to your working board to troubleshoot whether the issues with the other two boards are problems with the software, or problems with the other two boards.  Carefully remove the working software chips from your working board, and replace them with the software chips from your questionable boards (one game set at a time, obviously).

On an IGT Player's Edge Plus, the chips that need to be removed/changed for a game change are the MRO, MGO, MBO, MXO (graphics chips), the CAP(X) (color pallet chip), and the GAME and DATA (if applicable) chips.

I would suggest documenting exactly which chips are in which sockets, and the direction of the chips (the notches in the chips must align with the notches in the sockets) before removing any chips.  You may wish to take some detailed pictures of the current state of the chips in your boards before removing any chips so you have some future reference when you try to put everything back where it was.

Of course, there is a minor risk involved in this.  You could potentially physically damage a chip when removing it from its socket, and you could potentially make your machine unplayable if you wind up needing some kind of clear chip that you don't have to restore the machine to working order after a game change.  I'm not trying to scare you off from doing this, but I do want to make sure that you're aware of the potential risks.

[Jokerpoker]

I have 2 more machines that are the same arriving soon, these have monitor issues so i guess i'll wait to they arrive, i love the Joker wild to much to break it haha.

Thanks for the support, i have a much better understaing of the workings of the chip/boards now.

Dan

[Jokerpoker]

Here is a photo of the error and the board anyway.

[Jokerpoker]

Picture of error

[Jokerpoker]

Hi, no theres not there just that board and the mother board.

I'll have a closer look at where the plugs go in, perhaps there is a damaged pin.

Also I have another board and when i insert it all i get just a blurry colored screen do you have any clues on that?

Cheers for help by the way.

Fixed the blurry screen problem, there was 2 bent pins on the input plug.

[Stolistic]

That board looks very similar to a PE+.  I would be interested in trying to emulate this in MAME sometime if you want to contact me via PM.

If there is a self-test button on the machine somewhere, press it while the door is open (and the game is running).  You should be able to navigate through the setup screens with the deck buttons and the self-test button to change pages.
There is probably and option to turn off the "Expanded IO" which may clear your message.

[ROCKET]

 
I was not around last night to get involved in this more ..
I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT REMOVE ANY CHIPS FROM THE WORKING BOARD ..
as Kevin mentioned also you run the risk of losing EVERYTHING !!

YOU HAVE A WORKING MACHINE THAT WORKS .. LEAVE IT ALONE !!
if you raided the old folks home for 2 more machines then try your :GUESS TESTING ON ONE OF THOSE
I have seen to many times a member has a working machine and says what happens if i press this button when machine is on ??
they are told "NOT TO PRESS BUTTON "  but they end up pressing this button and the machine dies ..
 
IT REMINDS ME OF THE OLD CANDID CAMERA DAYS .. PUT A GUY OR GAL IN A ROOM WITH NO WINDOWS --SAY YOU WILL BE BACK IN 15 MINUTES ..
 BUT DO NOT PRESS THAT BUTTON ON TABLE .. WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF THE DEPARTURE OF THE LEADER .
THE PERSON LOOKS AT BUTTON THEN PRESSES IT LOL THEN SIRENS GO OFF AND RED BLU LIGHTS ETC .. LEAVE THE WORKING MACHINE WORKING ..

when the other machines come then test out your other boards on them they may work fine ..
I would also not pull the known good working board and place it in the other machines you get .they may have a power supply problem and you dont want to cook the good working board on non working machines .
dont forget you obtained these most likely because they were not daily drivers --IF THEY WERE WORKING MACHINES MOST PEOPLE KEEP SOMETHING THAT WORKS -THEY GET RID OF SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT WORK .

 NO $$$ HIDDEN BEHIND AWARDS GLASS HUH ?? MAYBE THE NEXT TWO WILL ??

 I LOVE GETTING A MACHINE THAT HAS A 1/2 FULL CASH CAN .. THOSE ARE BETTER HITS THAN BEING AT CASINO .
I PURCHASED A PALLET LOAD OF MERIT COUNTER TOP GAMES IN 2005-6 FROM CO. I THINK THERE WERE 12 MACHINES ON PALLET  WITH THE MARS SERIES 2000 DBV W/CASH CANS
NO KEYS TO ANY OF THEM .AFTER I GOT INTO THEM I RAKED IN A TOTAL OF 368.00 BUCKS -COVERED MY SHIPPING COST ..

GOODLUCK ON THE NEXT 2 MACHINES
Rocket

[ROCKET]

I AGREE WITH  STOLISTIC TRY THE WHITE TEST BUTTON WITH DOORV OPEN .

IT WILL BRING  YOU THROUGH SETTINGS . VIA THE BUTTONS BET DEAL ETC
MY STORY ABOVE ABOUT THE BUTTON PRESSER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS POST .. ITS JUST A REMINDER TO DONT MESS WITH A WORKING MACHINE ..

[4 Deuces]

Fixed the blurry screen problem, there was 2 bent pins on the input plug.

       Nice work!

[Jokerpoker]

Hi guys,

No luck with the self test button. I will wait for the broken machines and then have more of a play around. I will leave my working machine alone

Also Rocket there was no treasures behind the top glass, i didn't take a photo as there was only some florescent lights behind there! nothing interesting.