IGT S2000 Triple Double Diamond

[qbert]

No stay on this thread we will get you fixed up.  for lasting so long we have to take it one step at a time you have come a long way.
OK lets try to find out some more stuff? Make sure you have zero credits showing on  the machine.
 Open the game door press the button on the MPU. Using the cash out button tab to the options menu 3 then hit spin reels to 3.1 'Machine options' press spin reels. Next press cash out button until you get to 3.1.4 'limits'. Press the spin reels button. The first thing you should get is Hopper Limits. To change these you will need to be sure you had zero credits on the machine. The spin reels should be lit, press spin reels. Set the value to say 5000.00. Use the spin reels to light the cursor then use the service button to move the cursor to the digit you want to change, change the value with the cash out button then hit max bet to save.(use this method to adjust all limit items)
 Now use the cash out button to get to 'credit limit'. You want to set this high say 50K save with max bet button. Do the same with the jackpot limit. Next is the 'bill limit' if it is set to zero this could be your problem with the BV not accepting bills, set this to say 3000.00 and save with max credit button. Then keep hitting max bet to exit all the way out. No Key chip needed, just be sure you have no credits on the machine when you started. Close the door.
Try this and report back.

Thanks
Rich (Qbert) 

[jacker]

Well I did get all the above done. Now I'm getting  "SAS Progressive Down" Wow, now what.
Thanks for all your help

[qbert]

????
Does this machine even have a progressive?
If it does It will be some more steps if it does not we need to check a few things.
Assuming you do not have a progessive type machine press the MPU button and tab with the cash out button to the 7 area 'key chip accounting'  hit spin reels  to 7.1 then hit cash out until you get to 7.3 progressive. Hit the spin reels to 7.3.1 controller select. hit the spin reels 3 more times it shouls say game x; denom xx level 1 under that it should say none : disabled
hit max credit to exit back to 7.3.1 'controller select' use cash out to tab to 7.3.4 SAS progressive hit the spin reels. It should say SAS Progressive Group = 0
if any of the above is different report back on what it says. close the door and nothing should change the error should still remain.
The machine was more or less working before we adjusted the limits?? nothing else was changed?

[qbert]

You also might want to try reseating the chips on the MPU and making sure the MPU is driven all the way home in it's slot when you slide it into the machine.

This is not taking a good direction. Is the green battery still on the board? Is there white corrosion around the battery edges?
Also what are the numbers on the MPU does it end with 502 A or maybe 504.
 

[jacker]

Green Battery looks very good. No corrosion of any kind. The P/N 75510504   rev B
Game 3 its referring to is the 96.7% payback ?? Need I change that back to 98.7%?

[qbert]

We can reset the game % later if you want it to win more often. If your referring to the game # in the progressive set up that really does not matter as long as when you finally get to the end of that series it says "none :disabled'
Before the wrong chip issue you were having trouble setting the SAS 7.2.1, it was set to enhanced did you ever get it back to std?

[jacker]

oh yes after the new chip it set very easily, security disabled along with the WAMM. Just seems like I did something wrong in the bonus areas

[jacker]

Just a little more info...In the bonus area, it is set on "System bonus Legacy" and there is still no players panel lights. Boy what a mess

[qbert]

7.1.3.5 Bonus should be set to disabled.
7.2.1.1 Validation type should be set to std mode
7.2.1.2 Validation security should be set to Disabled

For the BV  go to Machine options 3.3 Bill acceptor 3.3.1 Enable

In 3.4 communications
set the following
3.4.1 SAS set up 3.4.1.1 SAS primary 3.4.1.1.1 sas primary address 001
               3.4.1.3 SAS Config "cashless primary'

I can't think of anything else. Let me know if your settings are different in any of these areas.

[qbert]

You won't get any panel button lights until the machine is fully operational this is not a worry.

[jacker]

All is good EXCEPT 7.1.3.5 Bonus...shows   "system bonus legacy"
Clear chip again?

[qbert]

I think the key chip should work safer to try that first.

[jacker]

Everything is set as you showed me.
After closing door a few times, still get message "SAS progressive down"

[qbert]

You have tried reseating all of the chips on the mpu? Please be careful not to distroy any of the pins.
We must have overlooked something.
Cowboy may chime in.
 I'm not sure what else to check. From a previous post it sounded like you had the machine working what changed?
There may be an issue with the MPU board but I'm not ready to go there yet without hearing from some of the other experts.

[jacker]

Yes it did work. put several quarters in played for a few minutes, seen the credits were 5 so I thought I would cash out. could not get credits to clear. so I cleared and re-keyed. Must be something I did.

[jacker]

When I tried to cash out I got a "hopper empty" filled it up but nothing

[cowboygames]

Ok, here we go. First thing you need to do is quit clearing the machine. Unless you're changing the accounting denom there will be very, very few circumstances where a clear chip is needed. A key chip and zero credits on the machine will take care of 99.9% of issues you'll run into. For the hopper payout issue you'll need to check the level sensors on the side of the hopper to make sure they are hooked up. Just a wire going to a pin on the side of the hopper facing you when you open the door. Does the hopper run at all? Are the coin counter optics near the hopper knife at the top clean. In menu 4 you can do a hopper test to see if it's at least capable of working

[qbert]

Cowboy,
I think he needs to clear the 'SAS progessive down' issue
I think everything else will work after that.

[jacker]

How!!

[cowboygames]

Normally, if progressive is disabled and/or once it's been disabled using a key chip, closing the door should reset the machine and acknowledge the programming change. Does the machine spin the reels and try to set up after you close and latch the door. Not using the key chip, just go into menus 3 and 7 and make sure the changes you made were accepted by the machine. Just to refresh my memory, what SB, SG and VS chips are you using now?

[jacker]

The machine does initialize, reels spins, the bill acceptor initialize, the 9 line payout LED's light up display comes up normally, then under the play credit the words SAS Progressive Down.
I have triple checked menus 7 and 3 everything is as you outlined....except
...7.3.1 controller select, " games X; denom XX level 1 and under this it says SAS; level 1  (where it should say disabled )
stepper base: SB 100856.......version chip VS 011GX1......Stepper Games SG 000362  2 of 2
I did have the machine running, gave me 5 credits. tried to pay them out (hopper did not work) The only way I could clear the 5 credits was to key chip the machine.

[qbert]

OK Everything looks good one more step. we need to disable the progressive.
Use your Key chip (not Clear) you need to progress through the 7 series to 7.3.1 when you get to the screen in controller select you must toggle Game xx Denom XX Level 1 from level 1 to disabled save that setting with the play max credit button. Note if this was set up as a multi denominal machine you may have more than one game xx denom xx level 1) you must set each one of these to disabled , save with play max credits button)
If you have not checked menu 7.3.4 SAS progressive it should say SAS Progressive Group = 0 this needs to be set at 0 save with play max credit butto.

Once you are done with this keep hitting play max credits to exit out of all menus and close the door.
Hopefully you will be rewarded with a working game.

If you can't get to these menus or are having problems changing anything report back before you exit the 7.3 screens.

Thanks
Rich (Qbert)   
 

[jacker]

That worked ! THANK YOU....Played 3 - 4 spins, then Continued problems now with printer and bill acceptor. Can I deactivate these two and concentrate on getting the hopper up and running. Then I guess I can try to figure out why the players buttons do not light up. What do you think

[jacker]

I hope I'm down to 3 small issues.    1. Bill acceptor will initialize but that's all. has red light and blue blinking light.     2. printer will advance, but " says "Paper Out". I can advance it through the test mode, paper stops on the black pmark.  3. Printer nothing.

[qbert]

Please note on a home machine the printer is pretty much useless.
Unless you purchase a TITO system you can not use tickets in the machine.
(See classified for TITO description).
What exactly is happening with the hopper did the motor run then stop indicating coin hopper empty?
Which player lights are out?
I am not an expert on hoppers or BV so I'm going to leave that to others

Rich