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« on: September 20, 2008, 05:09:52 PM »

 Often, on the 1492 CRT,  a monitor or chassis change results in the picture being inside out or upside down. (pic1-inverted) This was the fix for me as I had both conditions when I put in a new chassis.;  follow the 4 wires from the yoke to the board connector (pic 2) If upside down, swap the 1st 2 wires; if inverted, swap the last 2 wires. The picture should now be correct. Push out the wire pins using a paper clip if you don't have a compressor tool; there is a little tab that sticks out on each pin holding it in; you may have to pull that little "v" out a tad when putting it back in so it grabs and does not come out.


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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 02:56:46 AM »

Reverse The red and blue on the yoke plug
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 09:40:25 PM »

Ok guys. I swapped the first two wires (red with blue). Put it back in, turned it on........upside down AND inverted. Switched back blue & red, switched the other two. Put back in, turned it on...........right side up, BUT inverted Scratch Head Scratch Head Scratch Head Scratch Head  Going to try switching the red & blue wire, leave the other two and hope this does the trick. If this doesn't do it............switching back all the wires & doing the 180 tube turn over.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 09:52:50 PM »

Well...

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 10:37:15 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2011, 11:18:44 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2011, 11:53:43 PM »

Sorry, I've got a really long stutter rotflmao I was gonna mention about simply rotating the yoke, but then noticed his display picture is backwards too
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2011, 12:02:12 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2011, 12:04:32 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2011, 12:18:05 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2011, 02:43:39 AM »

Wasn't that a song from Crash Test Dummies? Mmmm,  mmmmm,  mmmm....... once........ there was this slot machine. No? ok. Anyway, yes that did fix the inverted problem. Quick question. If the burn in was there before(payouts) and now my cards are there and the burn in is showing through, will the cards eventually over burn(?) making the previous burn less obvious? Also cowboygames said something about rotating the yolk? If I were to have done that, wouldn't the colors get all screwed up? Kinda like my questions? bust gut laughing bust gut laughing Thanks for your help guys, I really appreciated it. Karma to all.

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 10:23:56 AM »

Burn in takes time and you may not have it on enough to overlap the old burns any time soon. As far as the colors go, they are generated by the guns inside the neck of the crt and won't be affected by a rotation of the yoke because they don't rotate with it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 11:08:52 PM »

Ok, now a picture color question. What color background does a PE+ have  Scratch Head  All the pictures I've seen of a PE+ have a blue background. Mine is black. Could changing the wires around have anything to do with it? Could the screen voltage be set up too high or low? I vaguely remember my dad telling me that the color would change with increased high voltage. He did TV repair for over 40 years and often tried to teach me different things about electronics, obviously that was a fail frying pan frying pan Although I was pretty good at tube checking and, oh yes, removing the high voltage lead off of picture tubes to be replaced.............I think that was part of the lesson learning or he just thought it would be funny to watch me get zapped bust gut laughing bust gut laughing bust gut laughing Anyway, answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Still cleaning and fine tuning this unit.   
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 11:18:13 PM »

If I remember correctly, press the test button and you can go down to the screen set up.  You can mix all kinds of colors and get a pink screen if that's what you like.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 11:38:37 PM »

Yes Chris, You can change the background colors on the PE and the PE+  yes 
If I remember correctly, press the test button and you can go down to the screen set up.  You can mix all kinds of colors and get a pink screen if that's what you like.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2011, 04:23:48 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2011, 04:34:54 PM »

Ok, now a picture color question. What color background does a PE+ have  Scratch Head  All the pictures I've seen of a PE+ have a blue background. Mine is black.


If I remember correctly, press the test button and you can go down to the screen set up.  You can mix all kinds of colors and get a pink screen if that's what you like.


Indeed.  I actually prefer black, but here's a picture of that screen to make the adjustment:


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If I recall correctly, the default is actually 0, 0, 2   (R, G, B)
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 05:34:41 AM »

Out of curiosity, how many colors did they make available? (0-7 [512], 0-15 [4096], etc.) Scratch Head 2

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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2011, 06:06:43 AM »

0-7 for red and green, and 0-3 for blue.

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2011, 07:23:18 AM »

0-7 for red and green, and 0-3 for blue.

Hey, you asked.   arrow

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What happened over there? Someone need an extra bit and thought they'd steal it from blue? Weird Eyes Scratch Head 2
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Seriously, they must have wanted to use a single byte to carry the color intensity information. Since they only had 8 bits to work with, they decided to use them as 3x3x2 for RGB. Maybe they picked blue to have fewer levels of brightness because they figured that most operators would just want full blue as the default color and wouldn't need to adjust it as carefully as the others.


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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2011, 11:40:17 AM »

What I've learned from reading this basically you guys should be stand up comedians.... rotflmao
Actually, it's amazing how the picture gets flipped all kinds of ways by putting the wires into that connector differently.
I learned that when trying to get an LCD convertor to work with a PE+.
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