Converting button bulbs to LED's

[ashyron]

Ashyron, take a pic of it in the C7's too! With that clear, white and pastel graphics, I would think it would be pretty nice. Now are you talking about the glass lights or the reel light?

 Dan (tacman)

If I did this right there should be a new thread here:    http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2533.0  about the black lights in my machines.  I hope you like the pics.

[jay]

Dan you might want to take a list of orders for people who may want to pay you reasonable shipping and something for your trouble......

What would it run me for 3 S+'s and a PE+ I presume I would need new legends to make these look good too ?

[Ron (r273)]

Jay if your legend plates are not to bad the LEDs will turn them a white almost like new ones. But there is no substitute for new legends.

Ron

[knagl]

Dan you might want to take a list of orders for people who may want to pay you reasonable shipping and something for your trouble......

What would it run me for 3 S+'s and a PE+ I presume I would need new legends to make these look good too ?

I'd be interested in 1 S+ and 1 PE+ set myself -- I have a friend going to the Chicago show, too.   

[dpalmi]

Hello all!

Ok - so I replaced all my button lights in my S2000 machines - but some of my legends are just too yellowish and look like crap!  There was a thread at one time talking about ways people had cleaned/bleached their legends with pretty good success.  Before I go and buy new replacement ones - figured I could try to cleanup the old ones - worst case, I just replace them if i wreck them.

So - anyone have any experience or suggestions how to make your legends look white again?

Thanks!

Dan #2

[stayouttadabunker]

Take 'em to a dentist? 


My guess is whatever you use to clean the yellowish nicotine stains
will probably erase the black ink lettering from the legends as well.?

[rickhunter]

I don't think that thread was salvaged from the old site.  But I believe the solution was to use clorox to bleach out the plastic. The problem is, if the yellowing is not tar induced, but rather just plain yellowing from the heat, the clorox wouldn't do the trick.  As far as the lettering, you could protect it by putting some kind of silicon gel on top of it, letting it dry, and then do the clorox bath.

[ashyron]

I'm still kind of new to all this and don't really have leftover parts to try but I was going to suggest using the Clorox Clean-Up stuff since it's made for counter tops and stuff like that so maybe not as harsh or strong as regular bleach.  And maybe use a tooth brush to scrub it all off.  I would also suggest using an old toothbrush and not your current one.   

[rickhunter]

I'm pretty sure also that the clorox bath was a prolonged exposure of say 10 to 20 minutes?

[a69mopar]

I doubt the clorox will bring them white like a new set, most yellow legends are beyond help. If I were you I'd keep my eyes open for a deal on a new set of legends...  I hope it works for you though.

Thanks,
Wayne

[knagl]

Most of the yellowing is from the plastic changing color over time and from the heat of the regular bulbs.  As Wayne said, they're most likely beyond help.  Jim (Blueridge) was selling brand new button sets with nice white inserts for a good price -- I don't know if he still has them or not, but it's worth a PM to him.

One note on the button sets he's selling -- do a 1/4 turn of the cherry switch portion to remove it from the button -- they don't just pull out with force like the old style ones.  I learned that the hard way on the first one I tried to take apart.   

[Railroad94]

I soaked some legends in pure bleach for two days and the black print stayed there but so did the yellowing    

Nothing like a set of new ones 

[OhioGaming]

Same legends Happ sells for about $8 to $8.50 on their site .. plus tax .. plus their special rate shipping.

$12 for a new set of legends which includes first class shipping.



I am not a photographer so you don't get the best picture that someone could take.

[a69mopar]

Sounds like a great deal Ken, sure would look better and be easier than bleaching.  I would get the bleach on my clothes which would be more costly.


Thanks,
Wayne

[Magicslots]

I also tried the bleach.  Then I tried hydrogen peroxide.  Then for the heck of it, I tried two different kinds of toothpaste.
Then I tried baking soda, baking soda with the hydrogen peroxide.  The color is definately baked in and is not going anywhere!

Ken I haven't forgotten, I will call soon for the legends and some other things.

Which of the led bulbs out there seem to work best for the S+ ?  The ones from MCM? or Happ?

[stayouttadabunker]

I'm excited that Ohio Gaming stepped in to offer us some help...
Please let us buy a set or 2 of legends from them...they'll be scrambling to keep up with us!

[rickhunter]

Which of the led bulbs out there seem to work best for the S+ ?  The ones from MCM? or Happ?

The one's from Happ are actually 6Volts.  MCM's are 8 Volt so they will be a tad dimmer.   Sometimes they come up on e-bay.  I once bought a dozen for around $20 for the button bulbs, which are like $5 each at Happ.  If you are in a hurry, get the Happ ones, if you are patient, keep your eyes on e-bay.  Just make sure you don't get the 12 volt bulbs as they will be way too dim.

[Magicslots]

Will somebody tell me what the deal is with Happ's "mystery shipping'  it seems like they rape a lot of people on the shipping costs

[rickhunter]

The mystery is that they don't quote you a shipping fee before you place the order.  Once they ship, then they'll send you an invoice and "SURPRISE" here's your shipping costs.  They basically charge a "nominal" fee for packing plus the shipping cost + a margin, that's why you'll buy $25.00 worth of LED bulbs and you'll pay about $10 to have them shipped.

[ashyron]

Which of the led bulbs out there seem to work best for the S+ ?  The ones from MCM? or Happ?

If you are in a hurry, get the Happ ones, if you are patient, keep your eyes on e-bay.  Just make sure you don't get the 12 volt bulbs as they will be way too dim.

This is a listing I found on eBay.  It says for IGT but I wrote them a week or so ago and asked them if they were 6v or 12v bulbs and I never got an answer.  If anyone figures it out please lemme know cause I want some  but don't want to buy the wrong ones.   But I must say that Buzz has a 12v in a 6v plug and it really isn't that dim. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250408585005

[StatFreak]

The mystery is that they don't quote you a shipping fee before you place the order.  Once they ship, then they'll send you an invoice and "SURPRISE" here's your shipping costs.  They basically charge a "nominal" fee for packing plus the shipping cost + a margin, that's why you'll buy $25.00 worth of LED bulbs and you'll pay about $10 to have them shipped.

The SH for my last order was $13 for a small package of LED bulbs and some of those C-clip rings that hold the S+ reel baskets together. I started putting that order together because I needed ONE lousy C-Clip and nothing available locally would work. They only cost a penny or two each, but in the end, the order cost me $50. At least I have an endless supply of those clips now and some nice LEDs in my buttons.

If you order from Happ, make sure to indicate that you want all of your items shipped together, otherwise they will often break the order into multiple shipments and double or triple your "surprise".

[StatFreak]

This is a listing I found on eBay.  It says for IGT but I wrote them a week or so ago and asked them if they were 6v or 12v bulbs and I never got an answer.  If anyone figures it out please lemme know cause I want some  but don't want to buy the wrong ones.   But I must say that Buzz has a 12v in a 6v plug and it really isn't that dim. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250408585005

Ron, John42355640970657403570987³ ( ) is a long-time NLG member and seller, although he doesn't get to the site much. I've bought from him many times and he is a great person to do business with, IMO. You might want to send him another message and ask him what the voltage is on those bulbs.

BTW, I didn't see Rudy's picture in that auction.

[ashyron]

I'm excited that Ohio Gaming stepped in to offer us some help...
Please let us buy a set or 2 of legends from them...they'll be scrambling to keep up with us!

  I didn't know you could just buy legends.  MAN OH MAN!!!! Do I feel stupid now.    That sure would make my life easier.  I have been replacing the entire buttons and switches too.     I guess now I have plenty of backup buttons and switches.  

Stat, thanks for stepping up for John.  Maybe he is busy or something but I just kind of see it that if I am going to spend Dad's hard earned retirement I should at least be able to get an answer before I just buy.  Maybe it's just a Ron thing............

[StatFreak]

Stat, thanks for stepping up for John.  Maybe he is busy or something but I just kind of see it that if I am going to spend Dad's hard earned retirement I should at least be able to get an answer before I just buy.  Maybe it's just a Ron thing............

I don't blame you. I don't know why he didn't respond; I can only say that I've had good experiences with him in the past.

[rickhunter]

I have a friend who bought bulbs from him and they were 6 volts.  Of course that doesn't guarantee that these are 6 volt bulbs.  For $15.00 I'd take a chance, if it doesn't work out, I'm sure you can off-load them here for peple with S2000's.