Some info on GK boards & CDS duck bills

[ashyron]

Hey guys and gals.  Been a long time since I been on here.  Between dad being sick and going back and forth to the hospital, and my procedures being done, I just don't have as much time anymore.  So anyway.  Enough of that.  I am looking for a few parts and hoping someone can help me without charging a fortune for them.  Here is what I need.

The first priority is a Multimedia Lite 2 board for the Game King 3902 board.  I don't need the regular one, I need the 2 board.  It uses a simm for the sound instead of eproms.  I can't play my game until I get one of those.   

I could actually use another 3902 board too but that's not as important, wouldn't mind picking it up if it isn't too expensive though.

I need a tray for the 3902 board.  The tray for the 3802 won't work unless I break off a peg for the middle of the board.  I don't really wanna do that.

I am also looking for 1 part for my CDS game.   Everyone seems to have a different name for it but it's the spacer for the Dollar Bill Acceptor.  Some people call it a duck bill and some call it something else.  The ones I have on the other CDS games are an antifreeze green color.

I probably need other parts too but I am too tired to think of what they are.   If anyone has these parts please send me a PM or email me direct.  My email address can be found in my profile (it keeps the bots away this way).

[blueridgeslots]

Here are a few pics, to show the stuff you are hunting, the tray for the 3902 is different than a S-2000 or 3800 GK so I showed the difference so you don't get the wrong stuff, I only have the old version of photo shop (1965 version), also 2 different type BV Beaks (Entry's) the Green is actually IGT and the Black one has the lighted top parts there for the glow, and the MM Lite 2 is just for reference, if anybody is interested we keep them usually as well as complete 3902 Boards with or without the MM Lite

[blueridgeslots]

Here's a few more since I was snapping (pics that is)

[Buzz]

Jim the CDS and the Game King WBA bill entry are a little different. Where the IGT comes straight out from the bill head, the CDS entry has to go up 1/2 to 3/4 of a inch.  Invoice me and ship me 4 of the green ones for a GK.

[blueridgeslots]

CDS goes up higher than IGT or Down? I only posted the Green to show the color, the black one I pictured was marked  CDS on the BV and is lower than the IGT (part number 12498 is on the Black one)

[Buzz]

The CDS entry at the door is higher than the WBA BV head.  I have both if you want me to take a Pic.

[blueridgeslots]

The CDS entry at the door is higher than the WBA BV head.  I have both if you want me to take a Pic.

Heck Yea, these must be Video instead of Reel or sum ting, cuz d part number is a CDS wun, so get the part number off the bottom tue peas

[ashyron]

Jim, I am in the middle of writing you an email explaining things but what I will do is go out and take a picture of the green beak, bill, spacer thing for the CDS reel game.  

[blueridgeslots]

Jim, I am in the middle of writing you an email explaining things but what I will do is go out and take a picture of the green beak, bill, spacer thing for the CDS reel game. 

Get the part number off of it as well

[ashyron]

There was no part number on it at least not that I could see.  This one is out of my Boot Scootin game.  It is a reel game and not video.  This will also fit in my Pick Pocket game which is a reel game.  I really don't care if it is green black or purple with poke-a-dots I just need something to make it easier to put my money in the game 

[ashyron]

and a couple more.  Let me know if you need different pics.

[Buzz]

Jim  I have two for CDS part# 58133400 REV A the other one 581  334  01  KS

[blueridgeslots]

Jim  I have two for CDS part# 58133400 REV A the other one 581  334  01  KS

Now BUZZ, 58133400 is the Green Beak I pictured, it is for an IGT S+ or S-2000 with WBA, Also made in Black before the S-2000

The 58133401 is the Jump Beak adapter Beak used for S+ when converting an originally equipped S+ with a DBV to WBA (Smaller door opening) that beak has a close framer around the opening, where the other one is sawed off on the right side

[blueridgeslots]

58133400 (replaced by 58140800) also 0802 with GW Pic Insert and metal tape (more common), also known as 58133402 with GW pic Insert and no metal tape

[blueridgeslots]

58133401 (replaced by 58140801) aka JCM part # 900-100004 This is the Adapter Beak used to retrofit a S+ with DBV door opening bezel to WBA

[blueridgeslots]

Buzz, were you thinking of the green beak for an IGT I+ Video, they are different than the S-2000

[ashyron]

OK the 58133400 Rev A will work in the CDS reel game without a problem BUT there is about a 1/8th inch gap on the right side.  It still fits in the machine and the door still closes and it still takes money so as far as I am concerned, it works.

[Buzz]

Jim  mine are Game Kings that I need the 4 pieces for Part # 58136000  I sent a PM  Thanks

[CaptainHappy]

Jumping in on a related note.....

Jim,

Maybe you can tell me what I need to make this work? I had posted about this way before your time on the old site, and it never was solved. It was put on the way back burner, but these pictures and you notes in this post are making me ask questions... I put a WBA into a S+ that had a DBV originally, and I was not aware of the opening being different on the door. Naturally this is the last thing you find out when you attempt to shut the door!

See the pictures for the "visual image." I have the S+ door bezel #65215200 that is pictured. I have the WBA installed with the 58133400 (in black) Duck Bill... My problem is the Duck bill will not mate with the door bezel when I try to shut the door, so that is why I have it off! If I remember correctly the DUCK BILL is too wide for the Bezel opening. I have other Bezels for that Duck Bill, but the metal cutout in the door is not big enough!

So will the 58133401 mate properly with the S+ door bezel #65215200, and is that what I need???

CH

Jim  I have two for CDS part# 58133400 REV A the other one 581  334  01  KS

Now BUZZ, 58133400 is the Green Beak I pictured, it is for an IGT S+ or S-2000 with WBA, Also made in Black before the S-2000

The 58133401 is the Jump Beak adapter Beak used for S+ when converting an originally equipped S+ with a DBV to WBA (Smaller door opening) that beak has a close framer around the opening, where the other one is sawed off on the right side

[CaptainHappy]

Second Question as I jump on in..... Maybe when this is done we should move it from the classifieds to the tech areas? It may help people later.

On the subject of Duck Bills and door Bezels...

I am thinking of converting my S2000 from WBA to MEI SC66's Cashflows... Is this Plug and Play or Plug and Pray and hammer and saw??

Will it bolt in the machine and wire in the same? Then next... what about the Duck Bills and door Bezels.

My WBAs have the Green GW 58133400 REV A Duck Bills... My MEI SC6602 Cashflows have the Green GW 58144290 Duck Bills. The openings on the Duck Bills looks the same, but of course the attachments to the BV are different. This makes me wonder if IGT was smart for a change and made the conversion compatible??? (If so that sucks for JCM, OpBell) But it would be great for me! 

So have you done a conversion? I figured I would ask while my conversion thought are in their infancy so I can discover any potential incompatibilities in advance!

Thanks if you or anyone knows the answers...

CH

[blueridgeslots]

On the MEI, the complete assy is just bolt in either Cashflow or ZT, just need the Netplex unit with the interface board with 1 microswitch between the head and back of transport, there is an adapter harness to mate to the game harness, that usually is with the units, on the DBV to WBA Yes, that beak pictured above with the same equal trim around the edge is the right one, no need to fool with the door, now I don't do this but I have seen the regular WBA beak cut at a angle on the edges with a chop saw to the same size as the DBV opening, no big deal, when the complete kit was offered by JCM they supplied the beak, along with the metal housing (the door one) and the complete WBA unit, MEI was going into places making deals for complete ZT units with 4 year warranty for the same price as a 200 head at the time they were both $400, the only thing was the ZT wouldn't go in a game that needed a SH unit (only SS) and I don't think they did the Slant Top IGT either, I

[ashyron]

Thanks to Jim once again, I got all the parts I needed.  The box came in today and now our GK 5.0 software has sound, and our CDS game has a DBV spacer.    No more looking through the hole to add money.  I even have a back-up 3902 tray now.  WOO HOO

Thanks Jim.