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« on: November 28, 2009, 08:29:23 PM »

 I'am looking to buy a eprom burner and was wondering if anyone here has an idea of what I should get or if some one has one for sale My computer has usb plug ins  Thanks for the HELP
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2009, 10:28:00 PM »

You can search the term 'eprom burner" and come up with several threads where we've discussed this topic in depth. There's more there than you'll need to make the right decision. Nerd

You'll need to balance money against how often you'll use it and how many (and which) different chips you'll need to burn. Professor

Oh, and don't forget the eraser!  Duh!
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 01:10:07 AM »

brichter hit on it, you first should say your price range as well as intended useage amount.  I have an Easypro 90B that is a great little unit for most eproms, I also have a chipmax 2 that I bought from Luke that works for the more in depth programming and is much quicker.  if money is no object, then xeltek 3000U would be nice.

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2009, 01:13:01 AM »

Oh, and don't forget the eraser!  Duh!


Words to live by.  Nothing worse than getting your new burner and chips and your stuck unable to erase them!

I've been using this for a year with no issues at all:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130298006229&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=M*S%3F&GUID=400377901240a02699604000fffd8a7c&itemid=130298006229&ff4=263602_263622#ht_1665wt_908
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2009, 01:16:12 AM »

Me too...that cheap little plastic box actually works...patience is the key! LOL
Go make a big sandwich and
pour yourself a drink while the thing erases all those tiny little things away!
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2009, 01:24:36 AM »

Me too...that cheap little plastic box actually works...patience is the key! LOL
Go make a big sandwich and
pour yourself a drink while the thing erases all those tiny little things away!


Wait a minute, you wait to pour yourself a drink until you're erasing chips? Plastered Buddies



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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2009, 01:30:42 AM »

 Tongue Out    ^^^^^  comedians! Tongue Out Crazy
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:51:22 AM »

I'm surprised nobody saw this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Chip-Max-Device-Programmer_W0QQitemZ330380400893QQ

Cheesy

I had to snag it for a spare programmer. I really like the EETools brand of programmers.

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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 03:29:15 AM »

Those are sooooo serial cable... Tongue Out

Actually, I trust your judgment on these programmers, Channelmaniac...
If you like them - they must be pretty good! yes
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 03:35:30 AM »

Those are sooooo serial cable... Tongue Out

Actually, I trust your judgment on these programmers, Channelmaniac...
If you like them - they must be pretty good! yes

Actually, parallel cable.

My ROMMAX has easily paid for itself 2x over and it was a $500 unit that I bought new.

Now I can sell off my old TOP2004 programmer since I no longer need it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 04:10:06 AM »

EETools makes some of the best burners out there, I have a ChipMax II and it has been great. Of course I got an open box deal on it at Fry's for only $279 (regularly $500, it's still the current model and sells for $420)

It seems like they update software every month (honestly). I had a problem with the first one I got after 2 months, they swapped it out for me, the whole process took 20 minutes.

By the way, Channelmaniac, the burner you just bought for $41 is still sold by Fry's for $199. What a deal! applause applause
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 08:54:18 AM »

If you don't use to many eproms anyway then buy the EEPROM. This one you can erase with your programmer without the UV-light. Check for the WINBOND brand for example. No more need for any extra material. A little bit more expensive but if you do not use hundreds of them it will be a nice thing to try.
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 02:37:41 PM »

Hello all thanks for all the info will this one work off of Ebay  True USB EPROM chip Burner Programmer AT29C256 27SF512 its usb

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2009, 02:42:15 PM »

Hello here is a pic and here is the name of it True USB EPROM chip Burner Programmer AT29C256 27SF512


* MCUMALL GQ-4X TRUE USB UNIVERSAL PROGRAMMER.jpg (18.92 KB, 301x243 - viewed 1618 times.)
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2009, 02:50:14 PM »

Yes, It will work for the AT29C256...

The 27SF512 chip you want to use...
Doesn't it have a "SST" in front?
I'm wondering if the full name of the chip should be "SST27C512 "
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 02:59:44 PM »

Those USB programmers will work for all the CMOS versions of various EPROMs from 27C64 and up.

They may have trouble with older non-CMOS versions, especially when programming 21 or 25v chips such as 2732 and 2716. If you don't need to program an old chip like that then it should be find for most generic chips.

Just be sure it will do 16 bit EPROMs if you think you'll ever need to program them. An example of that would be a 27C1024. 16 bit EPROMs are common on arcade games, but I'll have to defer to the slot experts if you'll ever encounter them working on those.

RJ

PS: Make sure you get a good eraser that will do the quantity you need. I needed a bigger one and bought one on a "best offer" that was accepted this morning. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220449220052
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 10:21:41 PM »

It would be SST 27SF512
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 11:06:33 PM »

Hello here is a pic and here is the name of it True USB EPROM chip Burner Programmer AT29C256 27SF512

This is what I have and it's worked great.   I use it on my mac through parallels desktop and on an xp laptop.
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 01:33:25 AM »

Hello here is a pic and here is the name of it True USB EPROM chip Burner Programmer AT29C256 27SF512


This is what I have and it's worked great.   I use it on my mac through parallels desktop and on an xp laptop.

 Me, too!  In fact, I believe that many of us ended up buying the GQ-4X. I haven't had any issues with mine, although it's a bit slow. It takes 1 minute/Mb to program (reading is much faster), but this might be due to my computer's bus architecture and not the burner. I don't really know as I don't have another computer/GQ-4X combination to test against.

You can also purchase it directly from MCUmall at

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4282  (basic unit)

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4312  (full pack with these extras:)
PLCC32-DIP32 socket adapter
PLCC32-DIP28 socket adapter
FWH+/LPC+ adapter
PLCC IC extractor   (NOTE: This is NOT for pulling the DIP chips that we use in slot machines!)
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 07:45:17 AM »

 Me, too! Agree with Post As I have this programmer (since it first came out) and have had good luck with it. I do not do alot of volume, so it works great for the price. Some call it slow, but it is pretty fast if you have came from their previous parallel versions of the programmers. I will have to time it some time for you Statfreak! garfield

Those USB programmers will work for all the CMOS versions of various EPROMs from 27C64 and up.

They may have trouble with older non-CMOS versions, especially when programming 21 or 25v chips such as 2732 and 2716. If you don't need to program an old chip like that then it should be find for most generic chips.

Just be sure it will do 16 bit EPROMs if you think you'll ever need to program them. An example of that would be a 27C1024. 16 bit EPROMs are common on arcade games, but I'll have to defer to the slot experts if you'll ever encounter them working on those.

RJ

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To add to what RJ brought up in reply #15 above about 16 bit eproms, You WILL need one of these adapters for 16bit Eproms. If you are going to use to backup S2000' or Game King or IGames, 16bit capability is a must for Base and Key chips!

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4290

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4289

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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 08:12:42 AM »

... I will have to time it some time for you Statfreak! garfield


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To add to what RJ brought up in reply #15 above about 16 bit eproms, You WILL need one of these adapters for 16bit Eproms. If you are going to use to backup S2000' or Game King or IGames, 16bit capability is a must for Base and Key chips!

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4290

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4289

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If it takes 8 minutes to burn an 8MB chip, then it's in the same ballpark as mine. Tongue Out  Buzz's burner burns an 8MB chip in seconds, not minutes. hissy fit But like you, I don't burn that many chips so, for the money, I'm very happy with this burner.

I have an older 40 pin adapter that originally came with the Willem Dual POS, but I think that it's 8 bit and not 16. I may have to purchase that board for $29.99 one of these days...  stir the pot / get cooking
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2009, 01:45:52 PM »

By the way, Channelmaniac, the burner you just bought for $41 is still sold by Fry's for $199. What a deal! applause applause

And it works great! It uses the same Windows based software that my ROMMax uses Cheesy and I programmed a few 27C010 and 020 chips last night to phoenix (resurrect) a Capcom Punisher arcade game. (Grumble grumble, damn suicide batteries...)

Hey Bondoexpress!

What programmer did you end up getting?
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2009, 02:43:42 PM »

I bought the True USB EPROM chip Burner Programmer with the adapter that burns 16bit eproms got it in the mail a few days ago I haven't used it yet and yes I
bought an eraser to I will let you know how it works Thanks For The Help  EVERYONE
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2010, 01:40:53 AM »

Just to be clear...SST 27SF512 are ok to use as a replacement for 27c512 and are erasable? New to this and burner has not arrived yet.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 03:06:26 AM »

You didn't state WHO makes the 27c512 you're asking about.
They are made by various companies and come in various device forms.

The SST 27SF512 is a very good replacement for many  27c512 eproms.
All of the different 27c512 makes? I'm not sure...

The SST "SF" eprom is re-writable (Unlike the OTP eproms) and
is conveniently electrically erasable.
It does not have the UV window.
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