Coin Comparitor differences?

[waynelk]

Any one know the differences between coin comparitors other than 12 volt (Green to coil, green Led) and 24 volt (Gray to coil, red Led). I have a CC-16-D 24 volt in my S+. I also have a CC-40 24 volt someone sent by mistake. Is it usable? Is the coil usable? I see 16-E, 62-D, 30,33, 40, etc. What I'm wondering is are they different or just different voltage. Is a comparitor, a comparitor? All they do is measure coin size and density right?
   Thanks Wayne

[reho33]

This information was sent to me by Stout:

I really don't know.
Here's a list of CC's>>>

- IGT
CC-16 13volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢/.25¢ IGT p/n 57018491 CMI p/n 66160177
CC-16 13volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 IGT p/n 57021191 CMI p/n 66160179
CC-16 13volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. .50¢ IGT p/n 57018791 CMI p/n 66160181
CC-16 24volt No Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢/.25¢ IGT p/n 57018991 CMI p/n 66160186
CC-16 24volt No Inhibit 14gram U.S. .50¢ IGT p/n 57018891 CMI p/n 66160185
CC-32 13volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 IGT p/n 57026791 CMI p/n 66320004
CC-33 24volt No Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 IGT p/n 57026891 CMI p/n 66330035
CC-36 13volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + IGT p/n 57027290 CMI p/n 66360004
CC-37 24volt No Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + IGT p/n 57026990 CMI p/n 66370011

- ARISTOCRAT TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
CC-62 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .25¢ Aristocrat p/n L00020 CMI p/n 66620010
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ Aristocrat p/n L30500 CMI p/n 66460011
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ Aristocrat p/n 07-40273 CMI p/n 66460280
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 4gram U.S. .25¢ Aristocrat p/n 07-40274 CMI p/n 66460281
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. $1 Aristocrat p/n 07-40275 CMI p/n 66460282
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 12gram U.S. .50¢ Aristocrat p/n 07-40276 CMI p/n 66460283

- ATRONIC AMERICA
CC-16 12volt No Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢/.25¢ Atronic p/n 65010443 CMI p/n 66160059
CC-16 12volt No Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Atronic p/n 65010444 CMI p/n 66160115
CC-16 12volt No Inhibit 12gram Australian $1 Atronic p/n 65006153 CMI p/n 66160130

- SIGMA GAME, INC.
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢/.25¢ Sigma p/n 590009 CMI p/n 66160044
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Sigma p/n 590018 CMI p/n 66160117
CC-16WB 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + Sigma p/n 590012 CMI p/n 66160134
MC-16 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ Sigma p/n 150029 CMI p/n 66460076
MC-16 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ Sigma p/n 150030 CMI p/n 66460078
MC-16 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Sigma p/n 150031 CMI p/n 66460080
MC-16WB 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + Sigma p/n CMI p/n 66460084
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ Sigma p/n 150036 CMI p/n 66460088
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ Sigma p/n 150037 CMI p/n 66460090
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Sigma p/n 150038 CMI p/n 66460092
MC-40WB 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + Sigma p/n 150057 CMI p/n 66460189

- BALLY GAMING, INC.
CC-16 24volt No Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢/.25¢ Bally p/n E-887-0201 CMI p/n 66160047
CC-16WB 24volt No Inh 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + Bally p/n E-887-0202 CMI p/n 66160055
CC-16 24volt No Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Bally p/n E-887-0203 CMI p/n 66160056
CC-62 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .25¢ Bally p/n AS-5001-0100 CMI p/n 66620003
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ Bally p/n E-887-4601 CMI p/n 66460011
MC-62 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ Bally p/n E-887-4606 CMI p/n 66460065
MC-16OE 24volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ Bally p/n E-887-6002 CMI p/n 66460152
MC-16OE 24volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ Bally p/n E-887-6004 CMI p/n 66460069
MC-16OE 24volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 Bally p/n E-887-6005 CMI p/n 66460154
MC-16OE WB 24volt Inh 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + Bally p/n E-887-6006 CMI p/n 66460155

- WMS GAMING, INC.
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ WMS p/n 09-42000-1 CMI p/n 66160120
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 WMS p/n 09-42000-2 CMI p/n 66160116
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .25¢ WMS p/n 09-42000-3 CMI p/n 66160118
CC-16 12volt Inhibit 6gram U.S. .50¢ WMS p/n 09-42000-6 CMI p/n 66160142
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 2.6gram U.S. .05¢ WMS p/n 09-006832-01 CMI p/n 66460200
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $1 WMS p/n 09-006832-02 CMI p/n 66460202
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 4gram U.S. .25¢ WMS p/n 09-006832-06 CMI p/n 66460201
MC-40 12volt Inhibit 12gram U.S. .50¢ WMS p/n 09-006832-11 CMI p/n 66460206
MC-40WB 12volt Inhibit 14gram U.S. Casino $5 + WMS p/n 09-006832-13 CMI p/n 66460209

[waynelk]

OK. Now I would guess CC-16_D is for 5 to 25 cent and CC-!6-E is for 50 cent. Next question is what the difference is between INHIBIT and NON-INHIBIT. Thanks for the info on the different coin comparitors. That helps some. Don't see the CC-40 in the list, only MC-40.
    Wayne

http://www.happcontrols.com/gaming/coin_comp/cc-40_exploded.htm
Here is a link to Happ for an exploded view of the inside of the CC-40

[stayouttadabunker]

The only way to know for sure is to remove the four screws on the cover and
peek at the number inside on the board.
The CC-16-D 24 volt is the only coin comparitor you should use for an S+.
If you stick a 12V CC in there, smoke will escape!
I don't know if a CC40 24V will work or not.
I wouldn't try it though until you can find out more about it.

[waynelk]

You always have the answers Bunker. Nothing funny today? Here is a Happ link that explains what each comparitor is for. P.S. How much smoke would come out? Does it still work once you let the smoke out?

http://www.happcontrols.com/gaming/coin_comp/accessories.htm

Thanks Wayne
  Looks like CC-40 is High descrimination, high security with 2 optics. Should work though as long as it's 24 volt.

[stayouttadabunker]

Only if you can put the smoke back in...

[waynelk]

I'm usually good at letting the smoke out. Never knew you could put it back in? Maybe if I suck it up with a straw.
  Thanks Wayne

[reho33]

Just put an imonex in there and fugetaboutit!

[stayouttadabunker]

I didn't know that reho...good tip!
You've tried it...which model works and how is it done?

[waynelk]

The Imonex looks kind of big for the IGT S+. And it's a rolldown coin Mech used in Bally Machines. May work in my Williams pinball. Oh yea they are mechanical coin mechs that never have any problem. Now I'm remembering I put swear chips in and they only work on Free Play.

[reho33]

Well some on fleabay I guess think that the Imonex satisfies the requirement "....cannot be readily converted to to an operational slot...."??? It all depends on what the meaning of "readily convertable"is. Does it mean, within a week, a year, who knows.