S+ - old versus new style credit/paid displays...

[haaswood]

Question...

I have an "older" style S+ which has the credit/paid displays on the right side of the reel glass, stacked on top of each other.

Looking at "most" game kits and reel glass out there, they are newer with the displays along the bottom.  Especially of late.  It seems I missed the boat on the high volume of offerings online that were in full swing a few years ago.  I suspect things are drying up out there from the busy days of casino swapouts?

I see the display boards for across the bottom for sale sometimes -- can this be put in the "older" machine?  I would believe so but wanted to find some input before experimenting.  I haven't found enough detail on the newer style board to determine if the header/wiring is similar to the old style or make assumptions about compatibility.

I would like to get a game kit or two and figure this is the next logical step.   I got a heck of a deal on this machine but it has been a lot of work... all happy now.  Actually, I got two which thus far have turned into one and found most parts to work on the second one next.

Thanks in advance for sharing the wealth of knowledge!!

[jay]

The game kits should still all work. The reel glass is the exception. Most kits don't include the reel glass. I have a few - like the Royal Flush series that have matching reel glass.

You might try Frank at Casino Glass in Vegas and get yourself a collection of reel glasses.

Sorry can't answer your question about swapping out displays.

[OhioGaming]

To easily change out your display will depend on the wiring connections in your current machine.

I am like Bunker .. I need visual aids to help out.

[jslots]

I have both an old & new style S+ like I believe you are talking about. I does look like with a little bit of work the conversion you are talking about can be done.
Same amount of wires go to both  & both have the same mounting set up but I'm not 100% sure. There are more people on this site with much more Knowledge about this than me so hopfully they can add to this.I have taken pics of the inside of both machines so you can see the different set ups.If you need any other pics let me know 
J

[stayouttadabunker]

The door harness in the top picture uses much
smaller connectors to all the buttons.
That harness will not work very easily with a reel-bottom display.
Not only that, the older harness doesn't have the
proper connectors for the newer bottom display.
The only real way to change out to a newer display
is to get a different reel glass like Jay said,
but it will require you to also get a complete set of
newer button switches and door harness.
The awful thing about this is quite often the newer buttons
are slightly larger and don't fit into the holes on your button deck.

It can be done but I'm afraid it's NOT an easy swap!!

[jslots]

Sorry I thought he was only talking about the display part & the reel glass ? The plugs between old & new displays are the same & will switch I just tried it. As far as all the buttons go yes i think that becomes quite a project.....

[stayouttadabunker]

You're right! Thanks for pointing that out!
All one needs to do is pull the harness down from the top and
plug that into the newer display.
The molex for the .25 cent denom lights are the same as well!
Leave the old buttons hooked up but get a longer reel glass
and he should be good to go!
The machine will look different with the smaller older style buttons
but I think he'll be alright with it!

[haaswood]

Thanks everyone and especially J for taking pictures.  I thought I might need to do that!

The key information is if the display connector can be swapped to the new one.  I couldn't figure that out without buying one first.

I have been looking for kits including reel glass or a compatible (color wise) piece of reel glass by itself.  I wasn't worried about buttons, etc. if I don't have to.  I'd rather not permanently modify the machine... as I've learned on here, there is no reason to.  The addiction will make me purchase another and another to work on instead!

I have parts to add a DBV as well but am thinking I will put that down in the stand I made or somewhere else as it doesn't have a spot in this machine.  I might also just add it to the second bare bones leftovers I have in the garage from working on the first.  Will probably have some questions about that one!  It is configured a bit differently in that it had DBV area (minus the components) on the right side of the reel glass making the reel glass very small (9" S+).

Guess I'm off to find the "lower" display and we'll see what happens!  Thanks again!

[idesign]

For the record, this is an easy swap.  I did it on my older S+ without any problem.  All you need is the display bar and the reel glass.  The mounting holes for the display bar swap are identical.

[stayouttadabunker]

It's possible on your cabinet that there may be some bill acceptor bracket bolts
coming from the wall for attaching a DBV bracket for a cash box and DBV unit.
These threaded bolts would be above the reel tray on the right side of your cabinet.
Some reel trays have some type of another "shelf" in that area to sit older DBV's upon.
These type of DBV's come right out of the reel glass area and you would need a shorter reel glass.

Another way to attach the DBV is to attach the unit to the outside right side of your cabinet...
those are extremely ugly though and I don't recommend that.
Installing a DBV in the drop box stand is okay but rather low and
you'd need to fashion a longer harness for this mod. 

If you really want to go to a DBV, I recommend that you purchase a
door that is DBV ready or another cabinet altogether.

[idesign]

You can get a side car cabinet add on for that machine to add the BV.  I also added that to the older S+.  Works fine and the machine has the bolt holes on the side of the lower right portion of the cabinet to add it.  I got mine from Jim at Blueridge.  Maybe he still has one for you.

[jay]

For myself I have always found the side box bill validators an eye sore. They look like a duck tapped add-on. You expect to see these at dives not in your higher end casinos. No disrespect intended.

With that said I think buidling one nto a slot stand sounds like a nice idea, and if you go the step futher you could also enable the drop door into the slot stand. You could make this quite classy and possibly even integrate other lighting and progressive controls into the unit as you will already need to run power in.

[OhioGaming]

Like mentioned above .. the harness connections are correct .. and is an easy swap.

The machine looks like the standard size machine (not intermdiate) so getting kits shouldn't be too bad. Just make sure when you do get a kit that you know what the width of each piece of glass is.

[idesign]

You expect to see these at dives not in your higher end casinos. No disrespect intended.

Thanks Jay, I will tell my wife you think our gameroom is a dive.

[jay]

You had two of the nicest furniture grade round tops I have ever seen........I am sure youuld add a few coctail rings and burn marks, perhaps add a cracked belly glass and dive it down a knotch or two still.......