Hopper/Credit Settings.. the "7's"

[Johnny K]

I found out that once I hit 400 credits, any wins that push it over that will payout on that win only (keeping the credits to 400 max).

I'd like to change and found out how to do it but there's four settings under the 7 setting fot the hopper/credits..

Window
Coins     Credits     Winner Paid
7              1            0400
7              2            0400
7              3            0400
7              5            0000

Any clue what each of these are for?..  I know how to change each.

Thanks!!

Johnny K

[coorslight115]

Knowing which chips you are running will help answer theses questions. Some are set by the dip switches on the MPU board and some are programmable thru the setting on the chip.

Use this link to show you how to find out your chips and post them for us

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm

[Johnny K]

I'll have to check the chips.. but the dips are all set to be programmed (1-4 on, 5-8 off).  I did change 7-1 to 1200, but then i saw there's a 7-2, 7-3, 7-5..

I'll get the chip infor now..

Thanks,

JK

[Johnny K]

1271 Game chip

3280 Reel prom

both display 00's for the game type.

It's a 3 coin Red White & Blue

Thanks,

JK

[coorslight115]

7-1 Hopper limit - Max coins paid from hopper
7-2 Lower Limit - Hand pay over this number of coins or credits
7-3 Credit limit - Max credits that can be accumulated
7-5 Bill Acceptor credit limit - max credits bill accepter will accept

This is for the 1271 chip


Perform these changes with ZERO CREDITS on the machine !!

[Johnny K]

Excellent!!!!!  Thank you very much!!

Johnny K

[knagl]

Keep in mind that you may need to have zero credits on the machine to make the changes and/or have the changes take effect.   

[coorslight115]

Keep in mind that you may need to have zero credits on the machine to make the changes and/or have the changes take effect.   

Very true !!!

I keep forgetting that VERY IMPORTANT little detail.  Been there done that before

[Johnny K]

Hmmm.. thought I replied..

Yes, I found out the 0 credit through a search.  Thanks.

I guess I'll set all to 9999 and unplug the "cash out" button since I only have 35 Ikes now and maybe 20 $1 tokens for now.. Trying to decide if I'll pay 120-125% for the Ikes or wait to collect them slowly from the bank (could take forever..).. or convert to a quarter machine..

Thanks for all of your help!

Johnny K

[StatFreak]

Hmmm.. thought I replied..

Yes, I found out the 0 credit through a search.  Thanks.

I guess I'll set all to 9999 and unplug the "cash out" button since I only have 35 Ikes now and maybe 20 $1 tokens for now.. Trying to decide if I'll pay 120-125% for the Ikes or wait to collect them slowly from the bank (could take forever..).. or convert to a quarter machine..

Thanks for all of your help!

Johnny K

Why don't you set the credit limit to 9999 (7-3) and the hopper limit to some number between 0 and 50 (7-1)? That will solve your problem without the need to disconnect your button.

[Johnny K]

Why don't you set the credit limit to 9999 (7-3) and the hopper limit to some number between 0 and 50 (7-1)? That will solve your problem without the need to disconnect your button.

Good idea.. I'll try that.  So the max coins out could be like 3 and anything over that will flash for hand payout and I'll have the do a jackpot reset to clear the code and credits..  In a perfect world, I'd like to keep all credits on there for easy play.. or get my  hands on a bunch of tokens/coins to make plenty of noise!.

Thanks for the suggestion,

JK

[StatFreak]

Why don't you set the credit limit to 9999 (7-3) and the hopper limit to some number between 0 and 50 (7-1)? That will solve your problem without the need to disconnect your button.

Good idea.. I'll try that.  So the max coins out could be like 3 and anything over that will flash for hand payout and I'll have the do a jackpot reset to clear the code and credits..  In a perfect world, I'd like to keep all credits on there for easy play.. or get my  hands on a bunch of tokens/coins to make plenty of noise!.

Thanks for the suggestion,

JK

Not quite. It's easier to understand by trying it out than by reading the manual. Once you have actually setup and played your machine all of these settings will make sense.

Try this:

(7-1) 0-20   (Maximum number of credits that will actually cash out from your hopper.
                  Zero effectively disables the hopper, but you can use a low number to match the number of coins that you have, if you wish.
                  If you have more credits than this on the meter, pressing cash out will become a hand pay that is cleared with the key.)
(7-2) 1200  (This will cause the two largest wins on your game to lock up as a jackpot with lights flashing (red sevens with >1 coin played, and all RWB sevens)
                  Jackpot wins cleared with the jp key "disappear" and are not added to the credit meter)
(7-3) 9999  (All single wins of 1200 or less will go to the credit meter as long as the final number of credits is less than 10,000.)
(7-5) 2000  (The bill validator will turn off when you have more than 2000 credits. Use any value that you want here.)


<ADD:> Important: All setting changes require 0 credits on the machine before entering setup mode. In addition to setting the limits above, do the following:

From the standard idle mode, press the white test button 2 times
You should see "2  1" in the winner paid/credits windows
Turn the jackpot key once. This advances through the setup sub-menu
You should see "5  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until you have "5  0"
     This will make all wins automatically go to the credit meter. You will not have to turn on the credit button before playing.
Turn the jackpot key three times.
You should see "8  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until you have "8  1"
     This will force all bills inserted to go to the credit meter. You will never accidentally end up cashing out your bill.
Turn the jackpot key once
Press the white test button to "return" to the main menu and advance through it until you get to option group 7 as described above
Set your hopper and credit limits
Press the white test button one final time after making your last setting change to be sure that the changes stick
Close the door

[Johnny K]

Great explanation and step-by step instructions!

I'm pretty sure the "5 n" doesn't need changing since my machine doesn't have a cash/credit button, only ones for change, play one credit, cash out, spin reels and plat max credits (or something like that).. Either way all wins automatically go to credits.  Additionally, no BV, so I'm cool there.

I currently have 35 Ikes, so I'll set it to 30 for now and the other two as suggested... really only need to cash out is if you want to hand load coins in..

Now if/when I switch to quarters, then the first setting can go up quite a bit.. but I'd think 400 would be the max..

Thanks,

John

[knagl]

I'm pretty sure the "5 n" doesn't need changing since my machine doesn't have a cash/credit button, only ones for change, play one credit, cash out, spin reels and plat max credits

The "Cash Out" button is the Cash/Credit button, even if the legend only says "Cash Out."  If it's working the way you want it to, though, then yes, don't change the setting.

[StatFreak]

I'm pretty sure the "5 n" doesn't need changing since my machine doesn't have a cash/credit button, only ones for change, play one credit, cash out, spin reels and plat max credits

The "Cash Out" button is the Cash/Credit button, even if the legend only says "Cash Out."  If it's working the way you want it to, though, then yes, don't change the setting.

  But it won't surprise me if you discover that it is set at "5  0". Otherwise you would be able to turn the "cash out" button on and off with no credits on the machine. If pressing it with no credits does nothing and it blinks when you have credits, then it's set to 0.

[Johnny K]

Thanks!  I 'll check that.  Picked it up Saturday and with limited tokens/coins I didn't think to press the button to see fi it turned off.. plus the verbiage of "cash out" implied to me that it wasn't a cash/credit button (like on my slant top).  It automatically goes to credit now.  I'll check it out tonight but won't be able to change anythign since I got it up to over 500 credits as we're having people over this weekend and want to have credits on there to play and not keep taking them out of the hopper.

JK

[brichter]

Now if/when I switch to quarters, then the first setting can go up quite a bit.. but I'd think 400 would be the max..

Thanks,

John

I've got 1250 tokens in my quarter machine, and I have 7-1 set to 1000.

My 5 dollar machine, on the other hand, is set to 400, as I only have 500 tokens for it.

[StatFreak]

Now if/when I switch to quarters, then the first setting can go up quite a bit.. but I'd think 400 would be the max..

Thanks,

John

I've got 1250 tokens in my quarter machine, and I have 7-1 set to 1000.

My 5 dollar machine, on the other hand, is set to 400, as I only have 500 tokens for it.

I've been running coinless lately, but when I had quarters, I tried for casino-like realism and set my hopper limits to 1200 and my hopper ground bolt to around 1400-1500. I also have properly aligned holes in all of my stands and buckets underneath.

I liked that setup because I could invite my friends to cash out as they pleased and move quarters from one machine to another without worry, and then just collect the extras from the buckets for hopper refills. It worked really well, but then again, I had $2500 in quarters, $100 in nickels, and $500 in bills for six modern machines and two EMs, one of which had a small hopper. I considered it a good stash of emergency cash.

<ADD> I don't necessarily recommend the "casino" method to people unless they trust their friends. When I finally cashed in my quarters after 13.5 years, I had lost only 8 quarters and gained 1 nickel. They were probably lost when I moved.

[Johnny K]

My friends come over, I swap out to the 25% pay chips..lol..