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« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2010, 11:01:19 AM »

Something new :

I opened the BV. There are inside 2 rows of 8 dipswitches !!
But what are they doing?!
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« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2010, 04:59:10 PM »

I was thinking PAR (specific to the game) not PSR but I see in your attachment it reads ..... Uses ID-023

So that kills that. Unless his previous game was ID-022 ?


I agree with Jay -- unless your bill validator is ID-023, you will NOT be able to use the SP1137.

Did anyone ever find a PSR for SP0856?  Since the bill validator was working with that SP chip, the PSR should tell us what the ID for the validator is.


sopat: Make sure to take pictures and good notes of the current position of the dip switches before you even consider changing any of them.  In addition, it would be prudent to wait until we can determine which ID the validator is (based on what is compatabile with the SP 856) and determine which SET chip is the correct one to use.
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« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2010, 06:20:15 PM »

i have not find any information on the 0856.
About dipswitches, i  touch nothing ! Too risky!
I continu my research.
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« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2010, 06:34:16 PM »

Hello Sopat

I cant find a IBA4 manual but as far as I recall its pretty similar to the IBA5. I have attached the dipswitches for that model. From what I can remember from servicing these years back the string sensor and the smart casette were both problematic items (If it has this there is a small hole at the back of the canister and a device that looks something like a watch battery on the inside but isnt - Basically the head communicates bill accepted data to this. If i remeber right if it did not see this device the BV would not work.
Its possible to connect the BV direct to a PC and test it that way (You will need a PC with a RS 232 serial port)

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« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2010, 07:02:08 PM »

Thank you for the informations about IBA.
I do not feel brave enough to fiddle with the switches.
If i understand, maybe my BV is out of order.
Well, Having regard to the purchase price of the machine this is not worth to repair it...
Anyway, what do you think about BV ID version ?
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« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2010, 07:09:24 PM »

Hi

Please check what is printed on the BV Eprom and post info here.
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« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2010, 07:10:35 PM »

Actually, i have the following unused game chips.
Maybe one of them can fit, but i do not find any PSR.
They are : SP481, SP731, SP483.
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« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2010, 07:15:56 PM »

On the eprom there is noticed : X1020-12.2
On the label of the trap eprom : 04.2004 - 08013
Nothing else.
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« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2010, 07:26:21 PM »

Sopat, send me your email..
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« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2010, 07:34:40 PM »

sopat.bardy  ---  at---      aliceadsl    ----dot-----    fr






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« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2010, 12:21:48 PM »

Hello Sopat

I cant find info on your software version. I have however found a spec sheet for a South American version. Generally the dipswitches are the same for all software revisions.

Dipswitch 2 has the following functions.

Bank 2 – 1   Protocol   Netplex (ID024)   Pulse (ID023)
Bank 2 - 2   N/A   N/A   N/A
Bank 2 – 3   Mag Analysis   Disabled   Enabled
Bank 2 – 4   String Sensor   Enabled   Disabled
Bank 2 – 5   Smart Cassette   Disabled   Enabled
Bank 2 – 6   Firmware Device   EPROM   Flash
Bank 2 – 7   Special Functions    See Table   See Table
Bank 2 - 8   Special Functions    See Table   See Table

Normal Operation   OFF   OFF
Cleaning Card   ON   OFF
Quick Calibrate   OFF   ON


Can you take a photo of the current dipswitch positions. I dont know if Euro notes have magnetic properties that the BV looks for but you can try disable Mag Anlysis. The string sensor I remember to be problematic and can be disabled as you are not concerned with fraud in home use. I would also Disable the smart casette.
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« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2010, 01:13:44 PM »

Here attached DS pictures.
If i read you correctly : my DS bank 2-1 is on. Then ID023 protocol is on. SP1137 uses ID023. it Should works. but no.  Scratch Head
I don't think DS are the same.
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« Reply #62 on: July 31, 2010, 01:36:17 PM »

Hello Sopat

On the picture I cant really see what positions DS2 are in. DS1 you can see clearly and notes seem to be enabled

2-1 On - IDO23
2-2 N/A
2-3 Off - Mag Analysis Disabled
2-4 On = String Sensor Disabled
2-5 Off = Smart Casette Disabled
2-6 Off - EPROM
2-7 Off - Normal Operation
2-8 Off - Normal Operation

As you have stated the DS positions may not be 100% correct for your revision but its normally pretty generic. What SP are you currently using in the S+ ?.
Another thing that you can check is to measure if the power supply is supplying correct voltage to BV (This is a long shot normally if they fail they are completely dead)
Also check the bv connector plugs at the back of housing as well as on S+ processor. Maybe continuity tests to be 100% sure.
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« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2010, 02:03:35 PM »

Using SP1137. I have checked bv connector and also connectors on cpu board.
Please confirm :on my pic, DS1 is on left and DS2 is on right. Correct ??
I will do continuity tests this evening. I also will try to test voltage to bv.
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« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2010, 02:31:48 PM »

Hi

Yes that correct. When you did the input test did the display flicker between 0 and 1 (This would indicate that BV is talking to Processor)

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« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2010, 03:53:30 PM »

continuity test ok.
Power supply Voltage output to the BV : 12.4Volts.
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2010, 05:30:56 AM »

I had answer from JCM : good code country to use is 38 (Holland).
BV works fine now.   rotflmao
Thank you very much to you all for the help you gave me.    Clap
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« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2010, 11:34:04 AM »

Holland? Oh well...as long as it works! lol
I'm so happy you got it up and running!  applause
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2010, 03:00:47 PM »

Here the exact answer from JCM :

At the time just before the Euro started, all country codes were already occupied and allocated in the IGT programs, even if they were not used, so there was no possibility to create a new number for Euros. This meant an existing number had to be used, and Holland was used only based on the fact that the IGT Office is based in Holland.
I worked for IGT Europe for 14 years up till last year...


As I always say, one who knows is better than ten who are looking for !
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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2010, 03:49:23 PM »

Great stuff - glad you got it working and good info there
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« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2010, 04:24:40 PM »

Congratulations

I'm very happy that you got your bill validator working again!  Your persistence paid off!   Clap Clap Clap
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