Reel Touch /S2000 Hookup to PC (RS232)

[jdkmunch]

Thank you Andy for all your help and hard work with this!!

 

I'm enjoying playing around with this - keeps my mind off the stress that I have at work.

[stayouttadabunker]

MODERATOR: Link Removed.  SF

This is the link to the Simulator that AndyP's talking about...
I posted it about 2 months ago in the other thread on Reply#61.>>>

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=1421.60

I like AndyP's Test App though...I just wish it would work as well as this one!!! 

[TZtech]

Hello All

Here is a link to the FTDI USB to Serial converter I am using and that worked with both version 1 and 2 of Andy's App. You major electronic retailer like mouser should stock them locally.

http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip?productID=56&op=catalogue-product_info-null&prodCategoryID=84

Ian

[Foster]

I was looking at the Comm Board Version 2 schematic.
On that one it looks like Channel 2 is the second set of Fiber components, the first set being used for WAP.
That brings up a question what is the difference Primary and Secondary in SAS settings?

[jdkmunch]

I love Andyp's app too and I know he will work out the bugs.  The simulator works perfectly with both the USB and native serial ports on my pc.  So without question my settings in the slot  and cable are in perfect working order

[AndyP]

Yup. I will sort it out.

I re-read a few posts tonight on solid ground. I need to reiterate the fact that no handshaking is required, no DTR, CTR, RTS etc.

I read some posts about USB speed etc. The problem here is not USB speed, its about how quickly you can change the mode of the UART that is used to do serial comms. Windows has a native driver that talks to the UART. When you use a USB to serial adaptor, there is a USB driver and a virtual comm port driver, so it takes longer to change the UART mode. This results in intercharacter timeouts in the packets, where the first byte of the message is sent, and then there is a delay before the second byte is sent. The delay is because I am changing the UART from using mark parity to space parity.

[jdkmunch]

OK guys -   my Acer laptop which was running the test app died -  the HD started screaming and it went up in smoke. 

I pulled out my old IBM Thinkpad X41 and loaded in the test app.   This laptop only has usb ports so I hooked up the
usb to serial adapter which uses the prolific driver.

Guess what -  the test app works perfectly under this setup!

My Reel Touch and two I-Games have perfect communication. 

I don't know what the fuss is about networking the machines  -  I bought 4 usb to serial adapters and plugged them into
a usb hub.   My 4 machines *should be able to talk to the TITO database when it's finished.   

Next I'm going to modify the program to give me credits when I push the service light.  l

[TZtech]

Great

Are these the same USB converters that you tried on your other laptop

Very sad results to report -  got the usb to serial adapter today - plugged it in and got the same results

Ian

[jdkmunch]

Yes - the cheap $4 adapter from ebay (which uses the same prolific driver) and the $20 usb adapter both work fine.

[poppo]

I don't know what the fuss is about networking the machines  -  I bought 4 usb to serial adapters and plugged them into
a usb hub.   My 4 machines *should be able to talk to the TITO database when it's finished.  

There could be two different approaches to this.

1. Each machine on it's own serial port. In some respects this would be the simpler method if you don't have a lot of machines. There are 4 & 8 port USB adapters readily available. And I have had PC cards that handled up to 16 serial ports (old RAS server with 16 dial up modems). Properly written software could easily poll each serial port.

2. A single line that is daisy chained to each machine. This method requires more 'specialized' hardware that at the moment is not readily available and could be more expensive in the long run.

IMO, I would go for option #1 for home use.

[jdkmunch]

Exactly  -  poppo -  Option #2 just seems more complicated than we need for the home.     

I'll let you know how #1 works

[Foster]

Option 2 using RS485, could be cheap for those that want to search eBay for ready made converters or build them using MAX232 and MAX485 parts.
I am not sure about he minimum spec for the TP cable but Cat 5 should work just fine.
in fact I found them for $1 a piece on ebay. most of them are coming from China

IF the TestApp and or DLL can be modified to allow the SAS address to be changed using a For Next type loop the machine will hold its data until it is polled.

[FORDSBS]

Great job guys. I've been reading all of the posts concerning this. (hundreds)
I have a s2000. Can anyone tell me what settings on game you have to change & to what.
Thanks for any help, Ford

[reho33]

Has anyone tried a fiber transceiver on a desktop yet to the slot. They range from 125-600 dollars. That's not too expensive for something that you could use fiber and daisy chain all the machines.

[Foster]

Fiber might be tricky, most fiber cards for PC are networking fiber, TCP/IP, etc
The fiber IGT uses looks more like serial data over fiber. (not the standard tcp/ip packets)

[stayouttadabunker]

...I have a s2000. Can anyone tell me what settings on game you have to change & to what.
Thanks for any help, Ford

Basically, the S2000 needs the SAS enabled.
I'm not sure if you need the keychip to get into the SAS option settings though.

[Foster]

his is how my machine is configured.

3 Communications

3.4.2.2 Bally Miser Channel Off

3.4.1 SAS

   3.4.1.1 SAS Primary
          3.4.1.1.1 SAS Primary Address
                            SAS Address = 001
          3.4.1.1.2 SAS Primary Channel
                            SAS Channel = 3
          3.4.1.1.3 SAS Primary Link Down
                            Game Enabled
          3.4.1.1.4 SAS Primary Hand pay
                            Hand Pay Reports Enabled
          3.4.1.1.5 SAS Primary Game Events
                            Game Events Disabled

   3.4.1.1 SAS Secondary
          3.4.1.2.1 SAS Secondary Address
                            SAS Address = 001 it defaults to this
          3.4.1.2.2 SAS Secondary Channel
                            SAS Channel = Off
          3.4.1.2.3 SAS Secondary Link Down
                            Game Enabled
          3.4.1.2.4 SAS Primary Hand pay
                            Hand Pay Reports Disabled
          3.4.1.2.5 SAS Secondary Game Events
                            Game Events Disabled

      3.4.1.3  SAS Config (these show up as 2 lines on the VFD)
                          Top line              Bottom line
                         Cashless              Primary
                         Progressive         Primary
                         Legacy Bonus     Primary
                         ASDC                    Primary
                         Link Bonus           Primary
                         Validation             PRimary

      3.4.1.4  AFT
           3.4.1.4.1 Asset Number
                 AFT Asset Number 000000777
           3.4.1.4.2 Register Gaming Machine (you will dot his after every thing is working)
           3.4.1.4.3 Partial Transfer to Game
                  Partial Transfers to game: Enbled
           3.4.1.4.4 Ticket Transfer Limit
                  Limit ( $ ) = 100000.00


Key Chjp Config
7.1.5 Cashless Controller     
     SAS AFT Controller

7.2.1 Validation
   7.2.1.1 Validation Type
        SAS Validation Type: Enhanced Mode
    7.2.1.2 Validation Security
        Validation Security Enabled
   7.2.1.4 Handpay Validation
        Handpay Vaildation: Print and Validate Handpay Receipt

7.2.2 Printer
  7.2.2.1 Enable/Disable
      Printer Enabled
  7.2.2.2 Restricted Tickets
      Print Restricted Tickets: Enabled

7.2.3 Voucher
  7.2.3.1 Voucher Redemption
      Voucher redemption SAS
  7.2.3.2 Voucher Limit
     Voucher Limit Follows Credit Limit
  7.2.3.3 Change Voucher
      Change Voucher Enabled

7.2.4 Handpay
  7.2.4.1 Remote Handpay : Enabled

[FORDSBS]

Thanks Foster. That's what I was looking for. Your a good guy.

[stayouttadabunker]

Excellent post Foster! 
How you found the time to type all in that is fantastic!!!!!! Kudos + to you!!! 

[reho33]

Yes, thanks k+

[reho33]

We have liftoff Houston! Thanks to all involved

[FORDSBS]

We have liftoff Houston! Thanks to all involved

So do we. I agree - thanks to all. Foster, you were A BIG HELP.

[FORDSBS]

Made a 12 ft. cable up.

[FORDSBS]

I took a cable from old printer. A used 9 pin from old computer wire & 5 pin plug from wire harness I took out of game over weekend.
New cover for 9 pin I got today.

CHEAP - CHEAP - THAT'S WHAT YOU DO TO KEEP COST DOWN.

[zarobhr]

I hooked up one of my s2000 slant tops today
used a cable from my old player tracking that used that port already and connected to a db9
installed the software and it works so far

able to get info bonus credit meters etc, one thing i did notice on mine is that alot of the messages are repeated, anywhere from 2-10 times, like door open door closed handpay etc, and on topic of hanfpay that message is still coming up.

oh and if the pc goes to sleep i get a primary sas controller down message in the vdf

i am still having an issue printing the tickects but hopefully will resove that soon