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I just hit a triple "double diamond" on my IGT S + slot (see post in Craigslist finds) and now have 1600 credit in the machine and I'd like to reset it. I have no key (it's on order from fox slots) but in the meantime, can I just unplug the wires from the back of the switch and touch them together? This would seem logical but you never know! Any help would be appreciated.
~ Mark

Is the machine locked up and going, "dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink, dink" with both segments of the candle flashing?

If so, yes, you can touch the wires on the switch together, but you must do so with the door closed (in other words, you'd have to remove the keyswitch and route the wires out through the side of the cabinet).

If the machine is NOT locked up, you cannot simply clear credits off by turning the key (or simulating it).


Please make sure to take a picture of your "win" and post it in the "Best Slot Hits At Home" thread!

:212-   I couldn't have said it better myself.  :96- But you beat me to it.  :37- :72- :72- :72-

No ding ding ding! It just hit the three double diamond (almost said "double D's!) symbols on the top payout line (it's a three line machine) and it simply dinged (dung?) 1600 credits into the meter. And, stupid me, I didn't take a picture...forgot there was a "best slots hit at home" here! I'm still sort of new. I just ordered a reset key - didn't realize they were standard. I was quite surprised to hit that but I want the credits to go away. So, the machine is NOT locked up, I assume I can just unplug the wires and touch them together with the door open? Thank you again!

You hit the Jackpot!
You forgot the unwritten cardinal rule here!  :30-  :72-
Anyone who hits the Jackpot is DONE with their machine and
as it is now rendered useless to you!!! :97-






(just kidding...don't believe a word I say....lol)

Until you get the reset key
Remove the reset switch and place the wires through the hole
With the door closed touch them together.
If you do with door open it will go into accounting/statistics mode.

Then bubble wrap up the machine and mail it out to me in the morning and you'll be fine.... :97-

You know what they say about assuming.   :96-


I think Foster mis-read what you said about the current state of your machine.  As I said in reply #2, since your machine is not locked up, you can NOT just turn the JP reset key (or simulate it) to remove those credits -- they must be played off or cashed out.

It's been a while since I messed with any of that, but if you cash out, and the coin payout limit is lets's say 300 OR the hopper is empty, won't the machine then lock up and the key trick will work?

Depending on the SP chip in there and how the limits are programmed, yes, that is a possible scenario -- the first part of your statement, that is.  As to the second part, the machine will not let you key off the credits if the hopper runs out.

It isn't possible to change the limits while there are credits on the machine, though, so if it has a SP chip that would support that, it would have to already be set that way to do him any good.

Well, then the fastest way may be to just keep cashing out and refilling the hopper if need be. But doesn't that still require a key turn once the door is closed to clear the empty hopper error?

The machine will try to run the hopper to finish the cash out each time the door is closed until all credits are paid out from the hopper.
There is no need to turn the JP key.

No it doesn't.   <ADD> I just read Foster's reply. We were typing at the same time. :96-  If you have the coins to pay them out, that will work fine.

Another option would be to pull the CMOS chip and ground it out. That would remove the credits. However, it would also reset the settings and might also disable the DBV (that's a crap shoot) If the DBV ends up disabled, he would need a SET chip to turn it back on.


I think at this point that it might be a good idea for us to know what SP chip he has installed and what the settings are BEFORE he pushes the cash out button. That way we will know what to expect and how to handle it.


shortrackskater,

Open the door and press the white test button next to (or on the back of) the power switch. Keep pressing it until you see a 4 in the coins in window. You should then see two numbers alternating in the winner paid and credit windows. Write them down and let us know what they are.

Stat :31-

I'm scared now! :[
Thanks though for the barrage of very good information. Again, I am NOT a slot tech by any means (but I have some electronics experience and can troubleshoot) and I'm afraid to pull out any chips and deal with having to reset "stuff." I'm not sure what an SP chip is but I understand that it sets the hopper pay out limits. I'm okay with just playing the credits through OR adding quarters to the hopper. I'm assuming since the credit meter is at 1600 that it would indeed pay out that amount, right? But, if the hopper limit was set at, say 100, wouldn't the rest be "hand payed" by an attendant and then, wouldn't that attendant key the reset switch to clear out the remainder...IF the hopper was empty? Just curious now.
IF I push that little reset button for the number 4, and the following numbers, what will happen to the machine? Will it go back into play mode after that or do I have to reset something?
Even though I'm a bit overwhelmed, thanks for all the input so far.

Yes. up to the limit of the hopper payout or until the hopper is empty. You can keep refilling the hopper until the hopper payout limit is reached. Then the machine will go into attendant payout where you would need to use the key (or rig it with the wires through the hole). IMO, that might be the easiest route. It is possible the hopper limit is set to payout all credits. If that is the case, then just keep refilling the hopper. Hopefully you have at least a hundred coins or so.

SP which means Stepper Program or game chip which is basically the Operating System of your machine.

Depending on which SP version you have and if the limits for Hopper, Win, BV, Credits are configured the machine may or may not lock up when you cash it out.

This stuff is really not as scary as all that. The white button takes you into the settings menus. Nothing will happen if you do what I ask. The flashing numbers displayed will be the SP and SS numbers of your chips. When you close the door the machine will exit the test/setup menu and return to normal operation.


As Foster said, the SP chip is basically the software that drives the slot. It determines what settings are available and how they are accessed. It contains the program that controls all of the operations of the machine. The SS chip is the reel chip that has the strip information and paytable information for the particular game installed.

You should read the articles in Rick's FAQ. Click on the blue button under the banner ads. There is a lot of useful information about the S+ in there. :89-  But get the numbers from your test/setup menu first. :97- :97-

Oh! Sure Stat...lead him out of the frying pan and back into the fire!   :30- :72-

Okay I've read the FAQ's and that was very helpful, especially on the game programming. Soon as I get home, "I'm going in" and I'll check for those codes and report back. Thank you. Oh...quick question: Should I plug my machine into a surge protector (I have a cheap one right now I can use) instead of directly into the outlet?

Yes, any surge protection will help really.
Treat your machine as a computer... :89-

Can somebody post or send shortrackskater a copy of my S+ Option List? I am in Ohio visiting and don't
have a copy on my laptop. :37-  I really think it might ease his frustation. :72-

Ron (r273)

His email is shown as "Hidden"...
so I posted it here... :96- >>>

Thanks stayouttadabunker and Ron! I've "unhidden" my e mail. For some reason, I'm not good at navigating this forum...sorry! Got the S + option list and will read as soon as I feed myself lunch! Then I'll get the codes as well.

Just to be sure that there's no misinformation here, the machine will never do a partial hopper pay and then change into a lockup condition -- when you press "cash out" (or "cash/credit", depending on the button insert) it will either pay out all 1600 coins (or try to, and if the hopper is empty, it will require refilling and it will automatically resume when the door is closed), or it will immediately lock up and go to a hand-pay mode with a turn of the JP reset key required.  It will never do part of one and part of the other.

Okay, for statfreak, I did it!
Here's the numbers: under WINNER PAID: 3743 and under CREDIT: 0731

All right.  According to the bible (http://newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203%20Line/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Diamond%20(3%20Line).htm), you have a SS3743 chip in there with a (pee-u!) 87.77% payback.  Your SP chip is SP731 which, I'm willing to wager, does not support separate hopper limits.  I'll double check, but the earlier SP chips (like that one) weren't that advanced.

If that is the case, wouldn't the board dip switches 1&2 come into play? In any case it seems the simplest thing to do is just play the credits or cash out and either keep re-filling the hopper and then reset it when/if it hits the hopper limit and goes to hand pay. Unless I'm missing something.  :103-

Yes and maybe.  :)  On the 731 the credit limit equals the hopper limit (they can't be separated, as I mentioned above).  The hopper limit can either be set by the positions of the DIP switches, or programmable by setting DIP switches 1 and 2 to the "on" position.  Either way, a change to that setting (if allowed) likely wouldn't take effect until there are zero credits on the machine, so it's kinda moot right now.



You're spot on for the first half of your statement -- at this point, since the 1600 credit win didn't exceed the credit/hopper limit, the simplest thing to do is to just play the credits out or cash them out.  What you can't expect to happen, however, is for the hopper to ever start paying out and then "hit its limit and go to hand pay" -- that simply can not happen on an S+ -- there is no setting (on any of the SP chips) to spit out some coins and then lock up in hand pay.  When you press cash out, only one of two things happens -- either 1) it starts spitting out coins and will continue until the credit meter hits zero, or 2) it locks up and waits for the JP reset key.

Then that makes it even simpler. Just cash out and keep refilling the hopper.

For some reason I thought the machine would pay up to the limit and then go into hand pay. But I've never actually cashed out on my machine, so I had made a wrong assumption. :5-

Been here before :279- Just keep refilling the hopper and let the credits pay out. Hope you have lots of coins. :89-

Dip switch settings will not take effect with credits on the machine. :60-

It looks like all of the blanks have been filled in. Thanks guys.

You have two options. Either run 1600 coins through the hopper, or -- IF you want to take a chance, you could pull the CMOS chip and ground out the pins on a metal surface, then replace it. The "risk" is that the DBV might end up disabled, which would then require a SET015 or SET026 to re-enable it.  On the other hand, every S+ owner should have a SET and Clear chip IMHO, and I highly recommend that you buy them from one of our vendors.

So, it looks like you hit the three Double Diamond symbols on the second (top) line. Knagl is right, you're payback percentage stinks.

I recommend buying a SET026, a SET090 (optional right now), an SP1271, a clear chip, and the highest-paying SS chip that the vendor has for your game. In preferential order, that would be: SS7681 (98%), SS3740 (95%), or SS3741 (92%).
 

The SET026 supports penny denominations with other SP chips (but not your SP731) and is therefore slightly more useful than the SET015 once you start swapping games and changing settings (You WILL -- trust me  :96-). The SET090 supports setting up internal progressives with the SP1271 (you could wait and buy this one later on), and the SP1271 is the newer version of your SP731. The 1271 supports separate hopper and credit limits so that you can build up lots of credits and be able to clear them with the JP key. It also counts up credits faster.

Before anyone says anything, the SET026 (or 015) WILL set the DBV with the SP1271. I've done it. It just won't access the other progressive set features.


Stat :31-

ADD: The reason for getting the SET026 first, and not just a SET090 to go with your new SP1271 is that you might want to use that SP731 sometime in the future. You wouldn't really have to get the SET090 until you decided to start playing around with progressives.

The biggest advantage of the older SP chips is that they supported a seven song selection for games with a re-spin feature, like 4th of July or Coral Reef. The newer chips sacrificed the song selection in favor of more detailed bookkeeping records. However, the song feature is not implemented on your current DD game.

I played out for awhile and them just stole the quarters from my Bally, filled the IGT and pressed the button. It took four "refills" and it payed out and now is back to normal. Everything worked just as all of you predicted. Thank you!

Glad to hear it, and thanks for letting us know. I still recommend buying the chips. I think you will be happy with the SP1271 once you get it set up the way you want, and a 98% or 95% chip will keep you in credits a lot longer than your 88% chip.


SS3743  87.770%:
|sym | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 36| 36| 41|
| CH |  2|  1|  1|
| 1B | 20|  4| 21|
| 2B |  6| 18|  3|
| 3B |  4|  9|  2|
|  7 |  2|  2|  2|
| DD |  2|  2|  2|
+----+---+---+---+


SS7681  98.081%:
|sym | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 36| 36| 39|
| CH |  2|  2|  1|
| 1B | 17|  1| 21|
| 2B | 10| 19|  5|
| 3B |  3| 11|  2|
|  7 |  2|  1|  2|
| DD |  2|  2|  2|
+----+---+---+---+