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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 08:37:57 PM »

All right.  According to the bible, you have a SS3743 chip in there with a (pee-u!) 87.77% payback.  Your SP chip is SP731 which, I'm willing to wager, does not support separate hopper limits.  I'll double check, but the earlier SP chips (like that one) weren't that advanced.
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2010, 08:59:44 PM »

Your SP chip is SP731 which, I'm willing to wager, does not support separate hopper limits.  I'll double check, but the earlier SP chips (like that one) weren't that advanced.

If that is the case, wouldn't the board dip switches 1&2 come into play? In any case it seems the simplest thing to do is just play the credits or cash out and either keep re-filling the hopper and then reset it when/if it hits the hopper limit and goes to hand pay. Unless I'm missing something.  Scratch Head
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2010, 09:47:39 PM »

If that is the case, wouldn't the board dip switches 1&2 come into play?

Yes and maybe.  Smiley  On the 731 the credit limit equals the hopper limit (they can't be separated, as I mentioned above).  The hopper limit can either be set by the positions of the DIP switches, or programmable by setting DIP switches 1 and 2 to the "on" position.  Either way, a change to that setting (if allowed) likely wouldn't take effect until there are zero credits on the machine, so it's kinda moot right now.


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In any case it seems the simplest thing to do is just play the credits or cash out and either keep re-filling the hopper and then reset it when/if it hits the hopper limit and goes to hand pay. Unless I'm missing something.  Scratch Head

You're spot on for the first half of your statement -- at this point, since the 1600 credit win didn't exceed the credit/hopper limit, the simplest thing to do is to just play the credits out or cash them out.  What you can't expect to happen, however, is for the hopper to ever start paying out and then "hit its limit and go to hand pay" -- that simply can not happen on an S+ -- there is no setting (on any of the SP chips) to spit out some coins and then lock up in hand pay.  When you press cash out, only one of two things happens -- either 1) it starts spitting out coins and will continue until the credit meter hits zero, or 2) it locks up and waits for the JP reset key.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2010, 10:40:23 PM »

  When you press cash out, only one of two things happens -- either 1) it starts spitting out coins and will continue until the credit meter hits zero, or 2) it locks up and waits for the JP reset key.

Then that makes it even simpler. Just cash out and keep refilling the hopper.

For some reason I thought the machine would pay up to the limit and then go into hand pay. But I've never actually cashed out on my machine, so I had made a wrong assumption. arrow
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2010, 11:23:58 PM »

Been here before Silly Me! Just keep refilling the hopper and let the credits pay out. Hope you have lots of coins. yes

Dip switch settings will not take effect with credits on the machine. no
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2010, 02:56:16 AM »

It looks like all of the blanks have been filled in. Thanks guys.

You have two options. Either run 1600 coins through the hopper, or -- IF you want to take a chance, you could pull the CMOS chip and ground out the pins on a metal surface, then replace it. The "risk" is that the DBV might end up disabled, which would then require a SET015 or SET026 to re-enable it.  On the other hand, every S+ owner should have a SET and Clear chip IMHO, and I highly recommend that you buy them from one of our vendors.

So, it looks like you hit the three Double Diamond symbols on the second (top) line. Knagl is right, you're payback percentage stinks.

I recommend buying a SET026, a SET090 (optional right now), an SP1271, a clear chip, and the highest-paying SS chip that the vendor has for your game. In preferential order, that would be: SS7681 (98%), SS3740 (95%), or SS3741 (92%).
 

The SET026 supports penny denominations with other SP chips (but not your SP731) and is therefore slightly more useful than the SET015 once you start swapping games and changing settings (You WILL -- trust me  Tongue Out). The SET090 supports setting up internal progressives with the SP1271 (you could wait and buy this one later on), and the SP1271 is the newer version of your SP731. The 1271 supports separate hopper and credit limits so that you can build up lots of credits and be able to clear them with the JP key. It also counts up credits faster.

Before anyone says anything, the SET026 (or 015) WILL set the DBV with the SP1271. I've done it. It just won't access the other progressive set features.


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« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2010, 03:22:15 AM »

ADD: The reason for getting the SET026 first, and not just a SET090 to go with your new SP1271 is that you might want to use that SP731 sometime in the future. You wouldn't really have to get the SET090 until you decided to start playing around with progressives.

The biggest advantage of the older SP chips is that they supported a seven song selection for games with a re-spin feature, like 4th of July or Coral Reef. The newer chips sacrificed the song selection in favor of more detailed bookkeeping records. However, the song feature is not implemented on your current DD game.
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« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2010, 07:06:45 AM »

I played out for awhile and them just stole the quarters from my Bally, filled the IGT and pressed the button. It took four "refills" and it payed out and now is back to normal. Everything worked just as all of you predicted. Thank you!


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« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2010, 07:34:27 AM »

Glad to hear it, and thanks for letting us know. I still recommend buying the chips. I think you will be happy with the SP1271 once you get it set up the way you want, and a 98% or 95% chip will keep you in credits a lot longer than your 88% chip.


SS3743  87.770%:
|sym | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 36| 36| 41|
| CH |  2|  1|  1|
| 1B | 20|  4| 21|
| 2B |  6| 18|  3|
| 3B |  4|  9|  2|
|  7 |  2|  2|  2|
| DD |  2|  2|  2|
+----+---+---+---+


SS7681  98.081%:
|sym | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 36| 36| 39|
| CH |  2|  2|  1|
| 1B | 17|  1| 21|
| 2B | 10| 19|  5|
| 3B |  3| 11|  2|
|  7 |  2|  1|  2|
| DD |  2|  2|  2|
+----+---+---+---+
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