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Title: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 23, 2011, 02:24:45 PM
The Bill Validator on my Reel Touch does not light up.

If you open the door and look at the back of the Bezel it has a small LED board that should light up the front where it says insert bills

There is a harness plugged into the board but I dont know where the other end goes or if its connected to anything.

Any help????

Thanks much

Captain Hook




Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: reho33 on April 23, 2011, 02:55:25 PM
That looks like a JCM Sentry Bezel, if it was on but malfunctioning the lower symbols have an "ambulance" icon; that indicates that the bezel or BV is malfunctioning but in this case you have nada! You might have to see physically where that wire goes and find out if it's unplugged somewhere or not, basic troubleshooting I know, but a first step. BTW, that bezel is a really hot item, it indicates what denomination bill was inserted in the BV.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 23, 2011, 04:22:16 PM
I just spent an hour trying to figure out where the other end on the wire to the bezel goes and now I have another problem.

I shut the machine down and took the 5 reel assembly's out to get a better look at the wiring and when I put them back in and turned the machine on

I am getting a reel 3 tilt message and the 5 reels just spin slowly and it says call attendant.

I tried reseating the 5 reels but no luck.

I have had these reels out many times before to change strips with no problems but now what could I have done???

Captain Hook



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: reho33 on April 23, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
Ok, with the door open, turn the jackpot reset key once, that should clear the "Reel M" error


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Buzz on April 23, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
Rick I sent you a email

Did you turn the jackpot key to get the reel to stop spinning ??  


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 23, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
Yes I figured it out.

Thanks for all the help.

Captain Hook


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 12:57:32 AM
You got the Sentry working as well?


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 24, 2011, 02:25:03 AM
No I got the machine working again but the Bill Validator still

does not light up.

Im hoping it just needs to be plugged in somewhere but I dont know where it connects.

Captain Hook


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 24, 2011, 02:40:36 AM
THERE is a   edit (black) cable that plugs into the front plastic piece with the symbols on the front it goes back to the bill validator. there is a different plug in harness that lights the led lights  . post a pic . i will take pic tomorrow of this for you   which part wont light up the green part or the  top part with the symbols


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 02:59:10 AM
Pictures of Entry Bezel(lamp version) with WBA Sentry
the first picture is of the bezel I am pointing to the Sentry board near the right edge is small connector you can see the small wires near the board.
closer in the picture is the Lamp board see the black connector at the right edge (sort of upper right in the picture
Your machine may have a LED board in place of of the lamp board (the one closest in the picture)

The BV has 4 connectors coming from it
2 pin for power from machine, red and black wires.
3 pin unused on mine
4 pin with 2 wires (black and white wires)
5 pin Netplex (machine interface)

Machine has 3 connectors
2 pin power red and black wires.
4 pin but only with 2 wires activates the Bill Validator Bezel lamp or LED board on door (not the Sentry display you have in the bezel.
   Yellow with black and black with yellow wires
5 pin 5 green wires with different stripes (red, black, brown, orange, blue) machine interface.

Sentry harness at the bezel it has a small white connector
At the BV end it has 4 connectors it will have either black or other color shrink tubing over it.
Male and female 2 pin connectors taps the 13 V power to the BV to power the Sentry.
Male and female 5 pin connectors this plugs between the BV and machine interface 2 wires go to the Sentry the other 3 go to BV.

does the BV work?



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 24, 2011, 03:06:55 AM
FOSTER BEAT ME TO IT . I DONT LIVE WERE MY MACHINES ARE


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 03:34:25 AM
FOSTER BEAT ME TO IT . I DONT LIVE WERE MY MACHINES ARE


You might want to move some machines home!


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 24, 2011, 03:38:58 AM
NO I JUST NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEW HOUSE WERE THE MACHINES ARE .THE CURENT HOUSE IS 1800 SQ FT THE NEW HOUSE 8000 SQ FT


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Buzz on April 24, 2011, 03:44:03 AM
PLUNGER BOY   Are you a Texacan ????    :279- :279- :279-


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 24, 2011, 03:45:19 AM
 NO A PLUMBER  $$$$$$$


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 03:46:20 AM
I would be happy with 1800 SQ FT.
I have 500 SQ FT.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: PLUNGER BOY on April 24, 2011, 03:51:50 AM
With taxes and insurance and general maintenance. your probably smarter to stay were you are . living large is very expensive. i have no kids so I'm going to spend it all on me


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 03:53:24 AM
No kids here either.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Buzz on April 24, 2011, 03:59:20 AM
They must have plumbers in Texas, I would think with all the BS coming from the residents of Texas a plumber would be in HIGH demand.  :79- :79- :79- :79-

I better go to bed, the NLG cops are going to get me again.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Buzz on April 24, 2011, 04:07:23 AM
Rick  In a nut shell the wires go below the play buttons and into the machine next to the hinge. About a foot or so inside the machine ( behind and below #1 reel,) the wires plug into another plug that's just hanging out in the air. All of them I have had, it's been a real small black plug.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 04:14:35 AM
Buzz
I forgot about that one.
Thanks

The wires are yellow/black and black/yellow
There is white molex 2 pin connector near it
Leave that white molex alone or you will be wondering why your machine shows the door is open when it is closed.



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 24, 2011, 12:25:18 PM
Thanks for all the reply's.

Anyway the BV works fine and the machine is working.

The problem is the Green Bezel does NOT light up and neither do any of the symbols on the front of the BV.

Captain Hook


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: cowboygames on April 24, 2011, 12:47:30 PM
Have you checked the power wires going to that bezel with a meter? Maybe it's just a bad bezel?


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 24, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
I decided to check the obvious things and took the board out to check the bulbs.

Both bulbs are bad.

What number are these bulbs and where can I get some????

Below are pictures of the board in question.

I checked for voltage on the wires and the Red wire has 12-13 volts on it to ground or the black wire.

So I guess I need bulbs.  Also this does not solve the issue with the digital display not working.

Thanks Much

Captain Hook


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: cowboygames on April 24, 2011, 02:40:53 PM
So you have voltage going to the digital display? Your bad bulbs are #73's


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Buzz on April 24, 2011, 02:45:03 PM
I decided to check the obvious things and took the board out to check the bulbs.

Both bulbs are bad.

What number are these bulbs and where can I get some????

Below are pictures of the board in question.

I checked for voltage on the wires and the Red wire has 12-13 volts on it to ground or the black wire.

So I guess I need bulbs.  Also this does not solve the issue with the digital display not working.

Thanks Much

Captain Hook


I won't say anything.     :25- :25- :25-

If you decide to replace those bulbs with LEDs, your next post will be "where can I buy a BV board, I toasted mine"

You didn't have to remove the board to check the bulbs, rotate the holder CCW.  Most any auto parts store will have new ones. Make sure you get 12V.  ( I know should be 14V but 12V work just fine )


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: reho33 on April 24, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
Yea, what Buzz said.... fried mine the same way, stick with bulbs.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: OhioGaming on April 24, 2011, 08:03:32 PM
I decided to check the obvious things and took the board out to check the bulbs.

Both bulbs are bad.

What number are these bulbs and where can I get some????

Below are pictures of the board in question.

I checked for voltage on the wires and the Red wire has 12-13 volts on it to ground or the black wire.

So I guess I need bulbs.  Also this does not solve the issue with the digital display not working.

Thanks Much

Captain Hook


The board pictured is not used when using a Sentry unit.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
I decided to check the obvious things and took the board out to check the bulbs.

Both bulbs are bad.

What number are these bulbs and where can I get some????

Below are pictures of the board in question.

I checked for voltage on the wires and the Red wire has 12-13 volts on it to ground or the black wire.

So I guess I need bulbs.  Also this does not solve the issue with the digital display not working.

Thanks Much

Captain Hook


The board pictured is not used when using a Sentry unit.

I have the lamp board and Sentry Installed in the S2000, It lights up the Bill Entry. the Sentry can not do that.
The bill path piece is fluorescent green and the board has cutouts at the bottom to allow the lamps or LED's to cast light into the bill entry
It looks better than the dark bill entry on the S+.
I do have LED's installed in the board.
See picture I have attached.



Is the Sentry looking like it has power?
When you first turn on the machine the Sentry will show some signs of being powered, LED's will flash, etc.


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: OhioGaming on April 24, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
I have the lamp board and Sentry Installed in the S2000, It lights up the Bill Entry. the Sentry can not do that.
The bill path piece is fluorescent green and the board has cutouts at the bottom to allow the lamps or LED's to cast light into the bill entry
It looks better than the dark bill entry on the S+.
I do have LED's installed in the board.

You are correct. I wasn't thinking about the Vision or S2000. Since his has the yellow guide it would light up (with working bulbs).


Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 24, 2011, 10:02:42 PM
Here are some pictures of the board I have.

Also here are some pictures of the wire harness that goes to it.

The little white plug goes into the display board and the other and has 2 plugs that come out behind the BV put are NOT plugged into anything.

Any idea where it goes???



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 24, 2011, 10:03:45 PM
Here's the other 2 pictures



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Foster on April 24, 2011, 10:19:09 PM
The white plug goes to the board.
Find the 5 pin going to BV, the one in your picture goes inline with the existing 5 pin connection or in series with it.



Title: Re: Reel Touch Bill Validator Doesn't Light Up
Post by: Captain Hook on April 25, 2011, 12:47:24 AM
Well guys I got the display to work. It was never plugged in behind the BV.

Now it lights up and displays the Denomination of the bill inserted into the machine.

Now I just need to pick up some #73 bulbs to light up the Bezel.

Thanks again for everyones help.

Captain Hook