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I have a IGT Triple Diamonds Slant Top Slot.
The coins played says 0 and it looks like it is ready to play. I drop the coin in and it goes threw the dispenser and drop to the coin hopper. No credits are added to the LCD above the coins played.
There are no error codes showing up. I pressed the white test button but nothing happens, I turn turn the JP key and still nothing.
I just got this slot and I want to pay it bad, I just don't know what I am doing wrong to get it to work.

Thanks for your help

Is the insert coins window blinking?

I don't see anything blinking.

I added pictures of my slot to my profile. It shows the inside and the out. (See the LCD screen, it shows 0 credits played and it shows no errors)

Thanks for helping me!

A door is open somewhere. Check the bottom door & switch. Open the play deck (main door) and re-close it. Make sure that it is fully closed. (it closes like a car trunk -- give it a good push). Then check and reseat the cash box and dbv. Make sure the cash can door is completely closed.

I think I found the problem, I am not sure how to fix it. It looks like to me, that someone was trying to bypass the door switch.
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I am not sure what the red wire (Just looked red wire is not coming out the PSU)  and the pigtail wires are for on the PSU.
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Also There are no locks on the Main door (I have to unlock it with a screwdriver) and there is no lock on the BV door.
The censor on the BV door works, When I close the door or push the censor down, I can hear the BV resetting. (All the doors do close all the way I just have to us my finger to push the bar up on the BV door for it to open and I use the screwdriver on the main door till I hear it click.

Main Door:
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So how screwed am I? I am glad I only paid a $100.00 for this slot...Thanks guys!!
I wished one of you smart guys lived close to Dallas and could come help me out..lol!
The slot tech guy wants to charge me a $100.00 just to come look at it..That is crazy...Man I want to play it...I am so sick of playing my skill stop slot (Not fun to me)

 

The "main" door has optics which close a circuit that is necessary for normal machine operation.  I don't have a slant top, but look for two small black pieces with LEDS on them (one's an emitter the other one is a receiver) and make sure those two are wired up.  "Closing" the main door on a slot machine implies that these two optic sensors see each other.  You might not have them connected, or maybe not even have them?

This is what the emitter looks like.  They both look the same, and you can't the see light as in the picture (it's infrared).

This is the set of optics.  The one with the black and red wire is the emitter, the red/white is the receiver.

I'd like to add that the Black/Red optic must go on the door 2-pin molex connector while...
 
the Red/White optic must be connected to the cabinet's  2-pin molex connector or they won't work.

Plus, ONLY the door emitter optic looks lit up when viewing it via a video camera.

Yup, I see them. When the door latch is closed, it moves out of the way so they can see each other. I am not sure how to see if the  optics are still good or not. They seem fine, I took them out and cleaned them and put them back on. There where no cracks on the eyes or anything.

O I did the other test you guys told me to do too...I turned of the slot and the reels moved freely, when I turned it back on the reels where stiff.

Don't you just hate when you can't play your addiction (hobby) LOL!
Thanks for helping me!

Hi

Not so sure its a door optic issue if JP reset switch and test switch are not responding(Or do you mean that they are not resolving the issue?) Check your fuses and the plug where power goes onto your backplane.

Regards
Ian

If you look at your digital camera's viewfinder, you should be able to see the emitter blinking rapidly.  The only other way to test it is to use the input/output tests in the SP Game chip

FYI - not all digital camera's can do this.  I just had to do this myself on a machine and my Canon Digital Elph would not see it but my cell phone's camera could...

Dan #2

Then I guess you can only view the emitter optics with junky cameras....lol

The story of my life...I deal with junky, old stuff.... :72-

My cell phone shows it blinking (I guess that is a good thing)
I checked the three fuses and they are all good.
I pulled the MPU board from the backplane and checked the backplane to make sure the it was plugged in. When it was pull off I hit the switch to ON and the part where it shows coins played on the LCD, did not have a reading. Once I put it back in and turned it back on it shows coins played 0.

The candel light on top of the slot is just blinking and blinking. Does that mean anything?
With the door open should the slot be make a beeping sound telling me there is an error? It does not make a sound with it open or closed.

Here are the pictures of my MPU board:
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=1199;sa=pictures;view=410 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=1199;sa=pictures;view=410)
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The chips read:
S-Pluse Reel Mech 554781
S-Pluse Game SP708 0/1/4/5/12 09/06/95 (1-512)

Down on the blue part, the jumpers are set to:
1-off
2-off
3-on
4-on
5-off
6-off
7-off
8-off

Man I need a slot doctor bad, this is killing me..lol!
Thanks for all your help! You guys rock!

  sounds like you might have it fixed the candel will blink untill one game is played after closing main door. the insert coin lite might be out.  drop a coin in and see what happens. Buzz

It has always blinked. I did close the main door and dropped a coin in and it went threw the coin dispenser and dropped down into the hopper. No credits show up on the LCD (Just 0 coins played) I pressed bet one and spin..It did not do anything.

Here are the pictures of my MPU board:
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The chips read:
S-Pluse Reel Mech 554781
S-Pluse Game SP708 0/1/4/5/12 09/06/95 (1-512)

Down on the blue part, the jumpers are set to:
1-off
2-off
3-on
4-on
5-off
6-off
7-off
8-off

Right below the coin comparitor there is a small board  has a 1 inch long brown electrical plug going into it  at the very bottom of that plug there is a very very small white button. Press this button 2 or 3 times you should hear a ding noise each time button is pressed If the speaker works you will hear a ding!!  Now with the door still open press the spin button. The reels should spin.  Try this before we go through all the ifs.  Buzz

Ok I pressed the white button 3 time. I did not hear a ding and I pressed the spin button and it did not spin.

Oh and thank you for helping me!!

You may want to check the cash box door switch to see if it's showing the door closed.  Do you have a set and clear chip?

Thanks,
Wayne

Ok question does the digital display work on the left side of machine?  with the door open turn jackpot key 2   3   4  times. a bunch of numbers should come up on left side display   if numbers do show up, just close door numbers will disappear.  If you didn't see any numbers I would say the left display has to be fixed first because there might have a error code showing and we can't see it. Buzz


  

I believe the door is closed, when I press or close the door to the DBV, I can hear the DBV resetting.
Now if you are talking about the door at the bottom of the slot machine, there are no wires connect to the lock.
I don't have any extra chips, only the ones that came on the machine.

Thanks
Troy
 

Wayne  I don't know the ans. to this, how dead does the MPU battery have to get before it stops giving a error code?  In reading this thread I don't think the battery has been checked yet!  but the wheels are stiff with power on.  I think I just shot down my own idea.  


Tbone      Is there a cash can installed below the BV ( bill validator )??? Buzz

TBone, you can post pictures that pertain to this issue directly in the thread (2 per post) instead of using your profile. Just a suggestion.
A 0 in the coins in with no "insert coin" or buttons lit is what happens when a door is open. The cash can door is usually the culprit.

The digital display on the right only shows "Coins Played = 0" The Winner Paid and Credits are blank, there are no numbers lit up.
With the door open I turned the JP key 4 times and no numbers showed up in the coins played, winner paid or the credits.

If there is any one in the Dallas Texas area that can come help me. Please HELP!! I will pay you or I can help you with something you need help with. Cut the grass, trim the trees, build the fence. LOL!

Thanks!!
Troy

Yup there is one. It is a gray box and when I take it out the bottom comes open and there are 3 spring looking things in there. (I guess that's what hold the cash) (Too bad it's not full of dollar bills..lol!!)

Hey Buzz, remember, this is a slant top, the display is on the right side that you're referring to.  Can you press the self test button and does it show numbers in the display?

W

Buzz,
   just saw this question,If the battery was removed the error would still come up.

W

Tbone,
   either p.m. me your phone number or call me, my number is on my website(gtaslots.com) 

Thanks,
Wayne

I spoke with Troy,  test button or key dont make anything display, looks like a power issue, troubleshooting guide says check wiring, and if o.k., then replace mpu board or motherboard.

Thanks,
Wayne

6 pin power connector on motherboard is at j11

Thanks for helping me and showing me how to take the belly off the front too...Much easier to work on now.
I am looking to see if I can find any lose wires and if that don't work, I guess I will go buy a V meter. (Not sure what wires to test it to..lol!) I hope it not shocking..lol!

Thanks!
Troy

Oh I am going to take a picture of it and messgae it to you soon.

Thank you Wayne!
I took the plug out of J11 and looked to see if all the wires were in wire prongs/ clamps and they were. I plugged it back into the motherboard and it did not fix the problem.

I bet you are right, I bet it might need a new PSU or motherboard. (I don't see the red light on, the MPU board)

I will keep tinkering with it.
Thanks a million guys!!

Troy

I can't seem to find the slant top pinout voltage for that connector.  If you get a meter, you can check them and if someone else has a slant they could let you know what they should be.  Did you check the wires to the display as Buzz had said?

Thanks,
Wayne

I am still playing around with this slot and still no luck getting it to work.
I have Robin (NLG member) coming over tomorrow to help take a look at it.
I also have an IGT tech from YGI International Corporation in Arlington, Texas. He said he went to school for it, but he asked me if the reel version on this IGT had the same lay-out as the video version. He knows how to work on the video ones. Don't the video and reel versions have a motherboard and a MPU board?
The good thing is he is only going to charge me a few bucks for gas.

Wishing for luck! Thanks
Troy

Well Robin (NLG member) Just left and he worked on it for hours with no luck.
I just don't know what the problem could be. We tested and replaced  a handful of things and still could not get it up and running.

Thanks Robin for coming over and trying to get me up and running!
Thanks to all the NLG members for helping me too.
I don't know what more to try, maybe new motherboard or MPU board, but they are getting power to them too..I don't know..I am going loony..Ha!

I would suspect the Main (mpu) board at this point.  These are not expensive.

Thanks and good luck,
Wayne

  Could a glitch in the DBV be causing the hangup?  Its a 145.  When we power it up, the dbv runs through what seems like a shorter startup.. The bezel flashes on power up, then a quick flash after the cycle,
but does not remain lit.  We checked  the MPU board battery, 3.6 volts. A quick overlook showed no no burned components, and the transformer was nice and warm, indicating power.
We did not check the transformer voltage however.  All 3 reels have power, but dont spin on power up and no matter what we tried we could not get the test button to make the machine do anything.  
Swapped out door optics, just in case, and no change. 
  You do have to stand on your head to work in these things. :30-

 It was good of you to go over and help.  K+ to you. 
the test button would work ig the dbv wasn't.  you could remove it if you want. With the display, audit switch, test switch, and no initial spin, I believe it's time to try a main board. 

Thanks,
Wayne

Well the IGT tech guy called and said he would not make it over till Friday around 3:00.
Do any of you guys have a Motherboard and MPU, with chips for sale for cheap (Money is tight right now)
I think I should just change it all out and hope that is the problem.

Like always, thanks for the help!
Troy

NLG user Slots4Home usually has tons of slant stuff, you may try PM'ing him to see if he has a spare.


here...

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=288 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=288)

I'm about 95% sure a S+ board fits both slant top and upright. Different tray but same board,      Buzz   

Since you mentioned the tray are you sure the board isn't grounding out against the tray? Tried taking the tray off and putting it back on.. just a thought

I will try that right now.
I see it has a plastic sheet under the board, but I will take the board out and try it. It can't hurt..lol!!
Thanks!!

Nope no luck.
I took it out of the tray and put it in the slot.
I put it back in the tray and tried it too, still no luck.
I think the MPU board is dead. The little red led on the MPU board did not even lite up.
I guess I need a new board.
Has anyone ever had this problem where the MPU board was bad and the  machine would not show an error or would the LCD still show an error if the MPU or motherboard was bad?

Thanks
Troy

you should get a clear chip and set chip also, you will end up needing them sooner or later.

W

Will this MPU and motherboard work for me?
http://cgi.ebay.com/IGT-CPU-BOARD-WITH-TRAY-TRANSFORMER-GAME-404_W0QQitemZ250400623476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a4d0a4b74&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/IGT-CPU-BOARD-WITH-TRAY-TRANSFORMER-GAME-404_W0QQitemZ250400623476QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a4d0a4b74&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2)|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A2|294%3A50
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Thanks!!!

I wonder if Buckeye would give me a better price on a
Motherboard
MPU + chips
Clear chips

or who has a good price for this?
I rather have a 3 reel 9 line Triple Diamond kit for S+
with the MPU and clear chips, but I am broke right now.

Yes those would work you can take the transformer off the other tray and use it for parts if it works.

Tbone, thats Tophat, one of our vendor sponsors. I would shoot him an email and inquire. He may even have other items that are not listed that he may sell to you outright. It can't hurt to ask!

 Dan (tacman)

Thanks Tacman!
I messaged Tophat and emailed him on ebay too.
Slots Unlimited close to me here in Dallas wants to charge me $50.00 for the board with no chips.
Can you says Hellzzzzzzz to the No...lol!!

But if any other vendors or members have this and is willing to sell it, please message me or email me.

Thanks!
Troy

I was looking at the IGT again today and wanted to know, If you took your MPU board out of your IGT S+ and turned it on, what error do you get? Or will it show no error like mine?
Also the coin comparitor has a little red light on it, that does not come on when powered up. The hopper does not sound like it is coming on either.
Will it do that if the MPU board is bad?
I was thinking if them two parts are not getting power, I wonder if it just needs a whole new power supply.

Thanks Guys!
Troy

If the MPU is taken out and the power supply is then turned on....nothing would be in the display.
However, since the fluorescent lights run off off the power supply...  they should come on...  :89-
You won't have the DBV do it's warm up whirring noises and the hopper also relies on input from the MPU...
If you have a meter, you can check to see if there's 115V power coming out of the power supply when it's turned on.
If you have power, then I would check the white molex power harness that goes to the bottom motherboard.
Again, with a meter, you'll be getting 12V from each of the green wires.
The S+ is designed for the two 12V lines to be combined to make a 24V unit.

Woohoo I got the new board, it had a Error 12 on it. I changed the battery and popped it back in.
I am now ready to set it up. What do I do now?
I have an error 61 on it right now.

Thanks! Oh I can't wait!!
Troy

Open door and press test button 3 seconds, probably get a 61-1 close door turn JP key

Buzz you are the man!! Thanks you so much for all your time and help. Well thank you to all of you!

It is up and running. Woohoo I have reel sounds too.
Later on I and going to clear the ram and try to get that DBV to work.

I am sure I don't have the right reel strips for my game, as I just hit a Triple Diamond, Triple Bar, Triple Diamond and it only gave me 10 credits. I do like the nudge that came with the chips and board.

Thanks guys!!
Troy

Buzz enjoyed talking to you on the phone. Thanks bud!

Sounds like you got triple diamond deluxe chips

Looks to me sometimes good deal is not a good deal !!!!!!!!!!

Another thing to make sure of is that your slant top machine has reels from a slant top and not an upright as that has caused confusion to some folk in the past. They are different due to the different viewing angle of the payline and reels in the two different machines. I believe that the reels for a slant top have an S marking or something unique on them to differentiate them from upright S+ reels. Also Maybe list the chip numbers, and the part numbers from the reel strips and someone might be able to check for you. PICS of the 3 reel strips are helpful also.

CaptainHappy  :95-

I can't complain too much, I got them John for a real nice price and he was a real nice guy to deal with.
Nicole was real nice too. I would buy from them again.

I was about to PM you too. I was going to see what you had for sale.

Thanks man!
Troy

Thanks Captain, I think you might be right.
The wheel are a little off centered and a little wobbly too.
I am going to look at the reels to see if I can see an S on them.

Thanks for your help!
Troy

Man you guys kick a$$!

Troy      are you using the chips that came with the new board?  

I am Buzz
If I take them out and put the old ones in, do I have to clear and set?

If I were you I'd get a clear and a set chip next, you're going to need them.

W

John sent me me a pair of Clear and set chips along with the board.
I just don't want to mess something up.

Thank man!
Troy

Wayne  He has a set from John


Troy    Maybe!!  switch them and find out, if all else fails Go to Rick's FAX Files  and read up on doing a clear set.  you need to do a set anyway for the BV You should have the instruction I mailed by the end of the week

Ok, I am going to try it..BRB
Fingers crossed

Did I need to exchange the cmos chip too? (I did not do it)
I changed the other chips and got error 61, pressed the test button for 3 seconds, colsed door, turned JP key and now I have...
Winner Paid = 0000
Credits = 0000
Coins Played = it is flashing from 0 to 1

Buzz again you are the man!
He got it working again. He called me up and walked me threw the steps.

Oh Buzz you where 100% right about the reels, The strips just need to be clipped back into the slots. No more wobbles.

The pay-out chip on this one stinks, the deluxe was paying out way more..lol...Oh well I can't have it all.
Good thing is I can see what I am winning now.

Thanks a 1000000000000000000000 guys!
Troy 

I was watching this thread...you're the man Buzz!!! :3-
I too, believe sometimes it's downright easier...
to walk someone through the steps it takes to get a machine going by telephone...
you can even hear the machine's noises thru the telephone that you're used to hearing when working on 'em... :72-

It's good to hear you got it going again.   What chip do you have in it now?

I was doing the IGT S SLOT: All About Bill Validators
http://www.newlifegames.net/faq1/faq.php?answer=4&cat_name=IGT%20S%20%20SLOT:%20All%20About%20Bill%20%20Validators&category_id=2#4 (http://www.newlifegames.net/faq1/faq.php?answer=4&cat_name=IGT%20S%20%20SLOT:%20All%20About%20Bill%20%20Validators&category_id=2#4)

I did it all the way to:
Power up the machine, it will
display a 61 on the winner paid window, press the reset
button, it will change to 61-1. (I pressed it but it never changed to 61-1) Close door turn the reset
key, and the 61-1 will clear. Insert bills and spin the reels!!!
So do I have to do all the steps all over again?

Thanks!
Troy

If you still have the "61" code...there's not that  many steps to do.... :72-

To get the "61" code to change to a "61-1",
you have to  Press and Hold  the little white test button until  you hear a "ding"
(if your speaker is working correctly) and/or
see the display change to "61-1"

Then, close the door and turn the reset key...


Finally, there's a difference ( I think)  between an "S+" slot machine and a "S" slot machine...
I've never owned an "S" machine though, so I'm not sure about that...
one thing for sure..."S" machines didn't have DBV's and if they did, it was mounted up on the outside of the machine...
even some of the older model S+'s had external mounted DBV's ...ugly as sin,  I thought... :101-

Sorry guys I did not get to get back to you last night.
The thunderstorm blew my modem and laptop up. So I got the G-link wireless up and running, stealing the guys internet next door. LOL! I will have a new modem in a few days.

Well, I did not re-do the set chip. I just pull the DBV out and put it back in. The light came right on.
I feed it some bills and it took most of them. It only ripped 2 of my bills in half. I think it might need a new cash box, as it grinds and makes a crunching sound sometimes.

 

Pull the box out, then make sure that the whole transport unit is seated correctly, and most importantly make sure the brass thumbscrews below the validator are secured tightly (use a smaller flat head screwdriver to tighten them).  Then try putting your cash box back in.

Slot machine are so odd at times!
Well you know I just got a new MPU board and it works GREAT. I took the old MPU board and flipped the dip switch to on and now that one works too. I wished it would have worked a few weeks ago, before I spent extra money on a board. O well that is ok too, now I can just switch trays when I want to switch to the other game...

Crazy little things!
Thanks!
Troy