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Hi all,

I just wanted to show the picture of my new Garfield topper :31- :31- :31-

It's not for an IGT, but I figured out the wiring and with a simple 12V adapter, I got it all to light up. No chasing LEDs though. I will have to find or make a small circuit to get that effect.

Not sure if I will put on top of a game or hang on the wall, but it looks really nice in a dark room.

Big thanks to Buzz for the hookup!  :131-

Rob

That looks like a fun topper! :3-

Very nice!  :89-
That will look cool in a game room.


I gotta get me a topper.

If anyone else wants one of these toppers.  I can get about 70 of them  $25 plus shipping. The box is 30" X 24" X 12"    15 pounds   Fedex shipping is about $50 to New York   Buzz

WoW..Very nice topper!! i'll take 1 thanks ..

Som if you want one I can pick one up from Buzz :89- :89- that way you don't have to pay for shipping, :91- LOL  I can even bring it out to you.  Of course Buzz, you know I want one (or two).  :31- :31-

  I need to get mine up and running.  I have two in the house and 7 in the shed, not sure how good the ones in the shed are though.  I think I'm hooked on toppers more than slot machines.  Is that bad?? 

Buzz, is that the only style available? Also I take it they are Sigma toppers or is there a new Garfield game out there now?

 Dan (tacman)

Dan    they tell me they are all Garfield but I'm going to look real good next time I can get down there.  Hay don't ask a dumb ass truck driver what machines thier suppose to go on. If I was smart I woulden't own a slot machine.  Sigma   humm  Sigma   kind of sounds like something you would need a penicillin shot to get rid of.    :103- :99-   Buzz

 :97- :97- and as Phoebe would say "EW and Oh No!!"

Dan, Looks like they came off of these.
I know Garfield is licensed by Mikohn, now Progressive Gaming.
Didn't they put these in Sigma machines?

Yes, according to all the info, Mikohn developed these video slots and then distributed them through Sigma. The newer titles like Wayne's KISS machine seem to be a little more elusive than the more common titles like Battleship, Game of Life, Yahtzee, etc.

 Dan (tacman)

I just hung my Garfield topper up on the wall in my little casino corner.  :71- :71- :71-

Rob

Two things I noticed, MrBellMan is the plastic Garfield molded in a raised and not flat plastic, looks kind of 3D in your last pic. Also uniman posted those pics on the Sigma video bank and it seems different leds and amounts of leds are lit on the chasers, are we sure there is no resident motion board in these? If too much voltage is applied would it overdrive the motion board and just keep them lit steady?

 Dan (tacman)

In my diagnostics last night I found three different wires that would light three different sets of LEDs, so there is no built in chaser. A circuit will have to be used to fire the voltage to the different wires at a different time. I actually got the lights to chase last night by moving a power wire over the three leads separately. Of course it was only done by hand, but they did chase!   :5-

The Garfield figure is molded in a 3D kind of way and not a flat plastic. There is also an LED light board behind it that lights Garfield up. There is no florescent light, just LEDs.

Thanks,

Rob

My Mr. Magoo bally topper has a led controller model # HSL-3L/3 has a knob to turn to adj. speed Manufactured in the USA for HIGH SIERRA LIGHTING Sparks , NV 89431 ph # 800-472-2742 might  work on that one SLOTS OF FUN :79- :79- :103- :103-

opened the controller box inside it has DESIGN SPECIALTY, INC. COLORADO SPRINGS, CO. 80921 PH # 719-488-3036  P/N: DSI-10L REV D 08-17-00 TRY THEM.. SLOTS OF FUN :3- :3- :3- :89- :89- :89-  3 CHANNEL SEQUENCE: 1 ON, 2 OFF 12 TO 24 VOLTS AC 3 AMPS/CHANNEL MAX . HAS BLACK WIRE & BALCK/WHITE WIRE
TO 12 TO 24 VAC INPUT ...  HAS WHITE WIRE = COMMON ,. WHITE, RED, ORANGE, BLUE = LIGHTING DISPLAY

i just bought a new topper today at a garage sale uncle fester Adams family topper any idea of what it may be worth.

I think this is from a adams-family arcade game . You held onto handles simulated voltage was applied you try ed to hold on till the bulb in his mouth lite up.
Did some checking there was a slot with a FRY-FESTER bonus round could be from that machine

I had a dew of the arcade shockers and they were all flat on the top.
It did however have a very similar uncle Fester with the lightbulb and such.

Did some checking and there was a slot that had a FRY FESTER bonus round could be from that machine . Could not find any photos .

It's a slot topper...

There is one on ebay now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Slot-Machine-Topper-Addams-Family-Uncle-Fester_W0QQitemZ360158113690QQihZ023QQcategoryZ66535QQssPageNameZWDVWQQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Slot-Machine-Topper-Addams-Family-Uncle-Fester_W0QQitemZ360158113690QQihZ023QQcategoryZ66535QQssPageNameZWDVWQQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Rob

hmmm...  exact same picture  :103-

Gota LOVE the shipping charges.
With my zip just the shipping is over $107.00   :60- :58- :103-

  We need the tacman or stat to figure this out with their CSI minds  but it seems   1st time slot owner  ( a new member ) and the seller on Ebay  Jim_lasvegas  both live in the same City. hum  same picture, same town, maybe same person???  Buzz

I guy on Criagslist was selling that Uncle Fester topper a few months back.  Don't kow if he ever unloaded it, but I think he was asking $300.

Probably a good bet Buzz. But in his post he was just asking for a value quote, probably intending to sell it all the time. Would be nice to offer to NLG members first, but after seeing tabasco oval INSERTS going for $80 on Ebay, I can understand. I wouldn't even bother with that garish item unless I had the machine to put it on to complete it, but to each his own.

 Dan (tacman)

All sorts of toppers up on ebay now, including pink panther, Jeopardy and Las Vegas.  Watch the pink panther and las vegas ones skyrocket....

I ran across those and the Pink Panther one is pretty cool. :89- :89-  There is an S&H green stamp on there now too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/S-H-Green-Stamps-Slot-Machine-Topper_W0QQitemZ150348328488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2301756e28&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/S-H-Green-Stamps-Slot-Machine-Topper_W0QQitemZ150348328488QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2301756e28&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

I think it's a challenge to find toppers, :89- almost as much as a challenge to find the machine I want to buy when I want to buy one. :47-  That Las Vegas one would be MOST EXCELLENT :131- to own but I have a feeling it's going to shoot up at the last minute. :37- :8- :37- :8-

I bid on the Vegas topper...had one in my hands last winter...but alas, it was for someone else....lol

Renee Pafundi has toppers listed on ebay from time to time, I just checked her store and she has nothing at all listed at the moment, but you may keep an eye on her listings.

http://myworld.ebay.com/endz_of_a_casino (http://myworld.ebay.com/endz_of_a_casino)


If anyone is wondering what everyone else is talking about.....

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtippyem2QQhtZ-1 (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtippyem2QQhtZ-1)

I didn't bid on that one - I bid on a couple other ones though.

Never .. Never .. Bid on anything untill the last 1.5 seconds   :81-  .. it just raises the price I have to pay !   :72-  :97-

 I don't know how the Ebay sellers come up with thier shipping fees. Fedex is charging about $50 from West coast to East coast for these Garfield toppers I have. I wish someone here can find a cheaper way to ship them  The box is 30 X 24 X 12.  15 pounds  Buzz

   Why FedEx?...Why not UPS 7 - 10 day ground..should be a LOT cheaper ?  :103-

  I'll check

If you buy your shipping through paypal or ebay, whichever it all goes to the same pocket, you get a discount also.

I'm bidding on the Green Stamps topper, for what it's worth.  :89-

 :88- I was thinking of bidding on that one and am watching it but will back off and not bid on it. :60- :60-  I am bidding on a couple other ones anyway. :89-  I hope you win it. 

What machine did the Green Stamps and Las Vegas Toppers originally go on ??  Or were they generic for whatever theme the casino was running at the time ?

-enforcer

Don't know about Las Vegas topper, but S&H Green Stamps went on the matching video slot on one of the newer Bally platforms, Alpha maybe??

 Dan (tacman)

I see you can play S&H green stamps free at;

http://www.masque.com/ballynewuser.php (http://www.masque.com/ballynewuser.php)

I haven't tried it yet.

Hey Jim thanks for reposting that link. Actually you can play S&H Green Stamps, Hot Shots and Playboy there. Pretty entertaining!  :89-

 Dan (tacman)

Greenstamps is both a video and alpha reel with video top box theme... booooooooooooooring

I have to agree. Played green stamps last year in Laughlin. YUCK!!!!

I saw this statement on the site www.openvegas.com   ;

"Talking to friends who just got back from Vegas - they told us they saw scam artists hanging around the S&H Green Stamp slot machines in 3 different casinos.(NYNY, Bellagio and Wynn)

Some of you know how these slots work better than me. I guess you have stamp books on the screen,, and you earn stamps to fill the books. When you get a full book, you can "trade it in" for free spins.

If you stop playing with a partially full book, you forfeit the credits associated with the partially filled book.

My friends saw 'helpful" individuals - targetting players at these games in the following way:

"Do you know how to play this? Its really fun!" They encouraged the player to bet more an more. When the game got to the point of having a book almost full, they would then encourage the player to give up and "cash out their credits" - the game's not paying off.

When the player left, the scammer then sat down and with very few additional credits was able to fill the book of stamps and play the free spins.

I know sometimes you come across a machine with some books with stamps in them.
And I know none of YOU would ever take a stranger's advice on playing a slot.

But have you seen this happen?

Our friends also mentioned they did not see the Green Stamps machines in any of the Harrahs properties this visit, and wondered if they were removed because of this problem."

There's still a few floating around a Harrah's here and there. Most of the Harrah's removed them because nobody played them, replacing them with more times than not, hot shots

Bally had a series of machines called City Scapes, such as Chicago, Seattle, Niagara, New York, and Las Vegas as well as others.  I would think the Las Vegas topper would go on a Las Vegas machine

Thanks,
Wayne

Some of those city scape themes had huge jackpots, like 40,000 credits for 2 coins bet. I saw a lady hit it twice within just a few hours one night.

There's a new version of S&H Green Stamps out there now -- S&H Green Stamps Deluxe.

I love the campy 50's theme, plus the banking feature is what makes it valuable.  I've never even come close to the scamming that uniman posted about, but when I see an empty machine I'll see how many stamps are completed.  I once found a machine that someone had walked away from that had a full book plus half of the next book completed.  I put in a $5 bill, filled the second book, took the free spins, and cashed out at $95 for a $90 profit.

Sweet, thanks.  So far no bids -- I'll have to see if my scheduled bid holds up.   :89-  I love the game and always check them out when I'm in Vegas.

Kev, hope you get it. Did you notice the plexi in front looks curved for a RT?

 Dan (tacman)

I like the green stamps topper also.  I bet it looks great lit up.  Can't believe no one bid yet.

W

Yeah -- it's more than likely going to go on the wall of my game room rather than on a machine (unless more machines start magically appearing!).  Thanks for the heads-up, though.



I've got a snipe bid set up for it -- I'm hoping it stays right where it is.   :79-

What do you use to put a snipe bid in?

Thanks,
Wayne

I use Bidnapper.....

I use my  right index finger and a stop watch!!   :3- :3- :3-

I usually just bid what I'm willing to pay, and let "The Force" decide wether or not I'll own it.  Yes that's a Star Wars (not Star Trek Bunker) idea.  I will look into Jay's method though, thanks Jay. Anyone using different software?

Thanks,
Wayne

I use Bidnapper when needed and it works very well. I've gotten good at bidding manually within the last 10 seconds of an auction, so I don't use it as often as I used to, but I still rely on it for important auctions where there is heavy competition (like the Star Trek items that itsawraphollywood.com sold), and when I might not be online at the conclusion of the auction. I usually set it to bid 2 or 3 seconds before the end of the auction.

They offer two purchase models. You can buy a block of time with unlimited bids, or buy a block of bids with unlimited time. I use the latter since I don't use the service that often.

An advantage of bidding this way is that you can decide the true maximum that you're willing to pay well in advance, with a cool head. You can also cancel your bid as long as there are six minutes or more left since you haven't actually bid anything on fleapay.

In addition, since you haven't bid, you won't be telegraphing your intentions to other bidders, and by bidding at the last second, you deprive newbies or other non-savvy bidders from driving the price up trying to figure out what you bid or trying to top it.

Yet another advantage is that you can set up contingency bids. For example, there might be three of the same item up for sale and you might want to have a chance at all three without the risk of winning more than one.

This is very cool toppers!! :3-- Just want to say spacial thanks to buzz!! and ashyron/ron for a  spacial delivery!!!!!!  :131- :3-

Yes they are cool and look great in the game room!   :89- :89- :89-

Rob

But Som, the lights aren't twinkling/chasing yet.   :97- :72- :97- :72-  I know, give you time and you'll have it all figured out, right??  :97-

I've been using eSnipe (http://www.esnipe.com/) forever.  From what Stat posted about Bidnapper, it sounds to be pretty much the same deal.  Their fees are very low, and you only pay them if you win your auction.

Knagl, that's a good point that I had forgotten to mention. Bidnapper also deducts only winning bids from one's bid balance, and it only applies to those who purchase blocks of bids, not those who purchase blocks of time.


<ADD> The main difference that I see between the two is that esnipe charges one percent of the winning bid, with minimums and maximums ranging from $0.25 - $10.00 per snipe. Bidnapper's cost per snipe is fixed and currently ranges from 36.99 for 25 snipes ($1.48 each) to $19.99 for 10 ($2.00 each).

Bidnapper also offers time blocks. The best value is an account that automatically renews annually for $49.99 per year. The cost per snipe depends on how often you use the account since there is no limit to the number that can be used in the 12 month period. They sell time blocks as short as one month.

Based on this information, esnipe would make sense for people bidding infrequently on items averaging less that $150. For those using the snipes for more expensive items averaging over $150 or those who snipe frequently, Bidnapper would be the better choice.

Of course, one could always buy a block of bids on Bidnapper and sign up on esnipe, and then use esnipe for the cheap items and Bidnapper for the expensive ones.

I have used MaxBid Timer II with good results.
They have a free version where you can use it as long as you like.
The only restriction is you can only snipe one bid at a time.
with the full version you can snipe multiple auctions.

http://www.max-bid-timer.co.uk/ (http://www.max-bid-timer.co.uk/)

That's my profile.  For the rare big-ticket item that I bid on, I ususally just set a reminder on my phone to alert me an hour before the auction ends, and then I bid manually near the end.  For the most part, though, I buy trinkets (and toppers!) on eBay -- nothing for hundreds of dollars.

Looks like the Las Vegas topper on  :116- went for over $300...  :148- :56- :148- :56- :148- :56-

I guess I didn't want it that bad after all...    :30-

Rob

I liked the LV topper also.  I'm not surprised it went high.

I'll look at the sniper programs.

Thanks,
Wayne

Ebay needs more IGT topper inserts!!!

Anyone have a Super Spin Sizzling 7 or a regular Sizzling 7 topper for sale or trade? Please?  :96-

Rob

Sizzling 7, now you're talking my language.  That has always been my "lucky " machine, I even bought the one I used to play at the casino near me.  I still have it.  I also have a couple super spins, but they will be sellers.

Thanks,
Wayne

 Wayne  If you bought the same one you used to play at the Casino. did you ever think you probably paid for it 3 or 4 times :103- :103-

I figured that I had better buy it or it would keep costing me more and more.  I actually won several times on it, it was popular so I didn't always get to play it when I was there.  Hey, did you see the slants I posted?  I have them in another "showroom", not my basement.  I'm sure they are heavier than the S-Plus slants.

Thanks,
Wayne

I was just looking at your pictures real good looking machines !! was all so thinking about you taking them down some stairs.  glad you don't have to anymore.

I'll still take the Uprights downstairs.  I think I'll put the other slants on hold while I shop a Pinball.

Thanks,
Wayne

I too prefer the uprights, I'm still fond of the slant top games too and those look really sweet!

I wish I had more room!  :25- :25- :25-

Rob

I see you have Two-coin "Black Widow" a69Mopar, one of my favorites!

I liked that machine, I put the black laminate on it myself, but someone else is enjoying it now, I sold it.  I forgot I posted that pic.  I'll have to add some more.  I have an In the money that looks awesome, I'll put that pic in my profile.

Thanks,
Wayne

I guess I already uploaded the In The Money pic.  If you zoom in on it you can see the reflection of cash cans and reel strips in the laminate.  I'll have to take more pics.

Thanks,
Wayne

Well... I got the two toppers I placed bids on.  :3-

I got the Jeopardy! topper for its opening bid of about $20, and then the S&H Green Stamps topper had one person bidding against me.  My maximum bid was $51.51.  I got it for $51.00.  :25-

I didn't do it  :72- I just bid on the one topper and got it.

Betcha that Jeopardy neon will look pretty neat...!

 Bunker  Do you think a old cell phone charger would power one of these toppers that are hanging on a wall ? I guess I could just hook one up and find out.

Which one did you get?

I'm under the impression that it's probably just plexi with LEDs that shine up from its edge to light it.  It should look cool, though.  Can't wait to actually get it.

Buzz,
The phone chargers don't put out a lot of amps,
so with that in mind, I'm not sure if they would work.
But they won't hurt either, because not enough amperage doesn't burn out anything - it just doesn't light up...
It doesn't hurt to try as long as the VOLTAGE  is correct...okay?

I am using an old 12V charger from a "who knows what" and it works just fine! I need to build a relay though. I would love to see a light show as well!

Rob

 :72- you sound like me :72-

I don't know how many "old chargers/adapters/converters" I own or
where they all are... :5-
I even found obscure chargers in my wood working shop from some
old rechargeable cordless jigsaw that burned out like 8 years ago....lol

Rob   I was just trying to put the idea out there that a topper didn't necessary have to be hooked up to a machine.

That's what it is, with the word Jeopardy etched into the plexi to "catch" the light. The sign will probably look best under low ambient light. :71- :71-

I got the Star Wars one.  My brother is a fan of Star Wars and Star Trek.  I think this'll look good up with the games.  I SO wanted that Jeopardy topper though.  I just got notice my topper is being shipped USPS which means my lazy-@ss mail man or even the mail woman might actually have to get out of their vehicle to bring me mail.   :72-

So now a question about these Garfield toppers.  I bought a POS thing at Salvation Army the other day because I wanted the transformer on it for this topper.  What I wanted to know is this - does he transformer have to be a 12vdc or can it be 12 vac??

My friend sent me a pic of the way the wires are supposed to be and he said something about adding a resister to dim the border lights a bit.  This Garfield topper is much different than the old toppers I have here that are direct wired with 110 power.  I finally got two of them up and running with the twinkling border lights and all.  I was thinking of checking to see if the 'guts' can be taken out of one of them toppers and put in Garfield to make the border lights twinkle.  By twinkle I mean chase of course.  :97-

I have a Garfield coming ,can't wait to cut  :31- open. Do you have the pic of how you did the wires.

It wasn't my pic to distribute, so I asked if I could upload it here and he said yes, so here it is.  He says 12vdc but he was going to check to see if it worked with 12vac too since that's the transformer I have.  I haven't tried this yet and he says that the border lights are very bright so he put a resister in line and said that it cut the power down to those lights so they aren't so bright.  This is what he said "and one more thing the chase light is very very bright (amber) like a led flash light..lol i put an 8ohm 5watt resister in line!! dim out a little_-20%

That's a great diagram Ashy!
That's what we need to see more of...yay!!!!!!
it's a lot easier looking at a picture like that than trying to decipher bloody wiring schematics :30- :30- :60-

Mine works off of a 12V AC adapter.

Rob

I tested both,?Yes!! they do work with 12vac  :72-.lol..i noticed the sign/lighting are not that smooth as dc power? i'll stay with dc power? is better lighting and i probably will try make the chaser led work?*&#$  most people have dc adapter? these topper pull about 1 amp dcv and 1/2 amp in acv.!!(i have good meter)..lol..  :103- :30- :97-     

What are you doing up so late Som?? :103-  So what I will do is use my 12vac adapter and when I find a better one I will switch it over.  I also want to add a pull switch to turn it on and off.  Might pick one of them up next time I am 'in town'. :3-  I can't wait to get this baby lit up.  That will make three toppers and one insert so far.   :71- :71-

i like the pull switch idea but what happen to the re-mote control oper? like how you turn on all your slots..lol..
yeah,,a little late!!bed time? :88- :88-

LOL yea, the remote control.  That might work too.  I was thinking of something a little more simple.  I am saving the remote controls for more important things.  I gotta admit though, they are handy.

Got my Garfield topper today from Buzz !!  :3- :3-

Much thanks for an awesome topper !!  Buzz is just "tops" in my book...

 :131- :131- :131- :131-   

David your welcome  hope you enjoy    Som drew up a wiring diagram posted in this thread   Thanks Buzz

Buzz,

Would one of these 12v regulated power supplies that output 12vdc work to power the unit  ?  I am just wondering how many amps and watts should be on the power supply ? And also, how you get all of the wires attached to one positive or negative output on the power supply ?  Obviously, electronics has not been a forte of mine...

http://http://cgi.ebay.com/Radio-Shack-22-504-12VDC-3AMP-Regulated-Power-Supply_W0QQitemZ220424607630QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335254978e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Thanks,

enforcer

I finally got around to wiring my  :31- and getting him up on the wall.  Now I don't know how many people live in earthquake country or on a  :104- out in the swelling seas but I found this bracket at Lowe's and it does a great job of holding  :31- in place.  Pics attached.  :89- Maybe you will like it maybe you won't but thought I would share anyway.  Gotta love the leveling device they give you but I did realize that  :31- is lower on one side than the other so putting the bracket on  :31- was as easy as raising the right side until it was level.  While I was at it I got another one of my toppers cleaned up and running too.  It's Yahtzee.  Today was topper day  :97- :97-

And a coule pictures of the brackets.

Ashyron,

It appears you have your Garfield Topper  :31- next to your Crystal 7 as I do...  :72-

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Enforcer, I'm not Buzz but thought I would chime in anyway.  :88-  I looked at that link you posted and I would think that would be too big.  I went to Salvation army and bought a used transformer for $1.27 and cut the end off it.  It originally went to a phone charger or something.  I would also think you could get away with something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Power-12-Volt-3Amp-Adapter-LCD-Monitor-for-HP-3A-12V_W0QQitemZ130307229925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Electronics_Batteries_Chargers?hash=item1e56ea88e5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/DC-Power-12-Volt-3Amp-Adapter-LCD-Monitor-for-HP-3A-12V_W0QQitemZ130307229925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Electronics_Batteries_Chargers?hash=item1e56ea88e5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

Som is the guy that took the picture that I posted and he said he checked the amps on it and said that you can get away with 3 amps.  I think mine is 1.5 amps tough.  I don't run any of my machines for too long, maybe a couple hours, so this topper wouldn't be on long either.  I figure if it burns out then I'll just replace it with another one.

Buzz... :88-  A big thanks and K+.  :31-, it must be dinner time because he showed up at my front door.

Ashyron... Thanks for sharing the pic. Going to double check the amp. draw on DCV but with all LED's,the small transformers will be great.       

MrBellMan, I actually was going to mount  :31- on Crystal but decided it would look better separate.  All my other toppers are separate so  :31- should be too.


Railroad94, I got all my information from Som.  From what I understand there was a bigger amp draw on the 12vdc but the lighting was better on dc.  I didn't notice anything bad on the 12vac power that I am using,  I thought the lights looked fine.  I hope you get your  :31- up and running.  Oh wait,  :31- does run for anything but lasagna.  :97- :97-  Remember to show us all a pic.  :96-


Enforcer, were you able to figure out the wiring?  If not, I can take a picture of my wiring job on my  :31- and show you.  Basically I used wire nuts, one for positive and one for negative.  I'd be happy to take  :31- off the wall again and show you some pics.

Great looking room!!!  Do you know the dimensions of the Garfield ?    I have a great idea that many people on this forum may like.    REALLY LIKE.... more to come.....

I measured it yesterday and it is roughly 21 inches across by 21 inches high (including the candle) or roughly 16 iches for just  :31- without the candle.  Here is my game room right now.  I have to share it with the washer, dryer, extra fridge and freezer but still all worth it.

Definitely ... I am scrambling to figure out how I can fit more machines in.  :3-

very nice

  :131- :131- :131- :131- Thanks " BUZZ " Got my  :31- topper yesterday  :3- :3- :3- :3-

Buzz is a great NLG member!!!

Wait until you meet him in person.  :3-

Oh, there are so many responses that I could insert here! :96-  >:D >:D
Are you deliberately trying to play straight man to set up my jokes? :97- :97- :97- :97-
I'll lay off and just say that Buzz is a great guy. :71-

I agree that Buzz is a great guy!!

ashyron,

I would appreciate some more pics of the wiring job of the  :31-  for sure, if you can manage it.  Many thanks,

enforcer

I'll try to get some posted before going to bed tonight.  I still have a couple things to do around here but I'll get  :31- taken down and some wirin pics taken. :96-

Yes!! :131- :3- buzz..a great guy.!!thanks!! :131-

wiring work?hope this help? i recmmd used 12v~13v output 1amp or higher.!! :96-

Enforcer, I didn't know how detailed you wanted me to get so I got as detailed as I could.  There are a few pictures I will be uploading.  I hope you can read it all.

another pic.

The positive and negative wires.

All connected. 

And on a side note, you shouldn't have to take your :31- apart.  I had to because I had it all wired already and I had already made a plastic bracket to cover the whole on the bottom. 

Lemme know if you need more help and I'll try to help more.

Ashyron,

What can I say, but 1,000 thank-you's !!  :3- :3- :3- :3-

Your time taken in writing out these detailed instructions, taking the pictures and then posting them gives new meaning to "above and beyond" !!

Your karma is going up and I am making an additional contribution to the forum as an expression of my gratitutde.

 :131- :131- :131- :131- :131-

enforcer

Great Details Ashyron!!!! Kudo's plus!! :3-

Enforcer, So I can take it you got your :31-  all wired up and running now?  That'll be awesome to hear.  What I didn't show you was putting on some kind of on/off switch because I haven't put it on yet.  Heck, I haven't even bought it yet.  :25-  Since I do use remote controls to turn my slot machines on and off I haven't bothered but the other  :31- I bought has to have one on it because I am sending it to my sister for her birthday.

Anyway, if you get a chance and can do it, I'd love to see your topper all lit up.

Ron

PS - Thanks for the Karma boost and Kudo's.  

ashyron-

Well, I will have to leverage what I learned from you for a couple of more toppers that I just picked up off of ebay - three toppers were picked up for $99 total....I'm a Rodney fan and the SNL topper with Dana Carvey (a/k/a "the church lady")  on it seemed like a good conversation piece as well.  Two of the three seem to have chasers.

http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160339961038

As soon as I get  :31-  up and running, I will post a pix.

-enforcer

I seen those and SO wanted to get them.  I figured they would make great conversation pieces too but I couldn't afford to get them right now so I let you have them.  :97-  I wanted the SNL one - was a fan since the 70's when it came out.  I hope you can get them up and running too.  Lemme know if I can be of any help.

I don't think I will get them either at this point - checked seller's feedback and he has two negatives (from a small number of overall transactions) for not making delivery on auctions.  Seller must be a big  :52- :52-
Didn't see that before placing bid, but i figured I was safe, since paypal was supposedly covering the entire purchase price, but when I went to pay on paypal it said seller was not set up to accept paypal.  Smells very fishy....

enforcer

Even more fishy is that ebay lists his contact information as Illinois, but the phone number for his account is in Vegas.  You call the cell phone and it goes right to voicemail with no name given.  Funny thing, although his ebay contact information lists his name, when you google his phone number there is a recent craigslist ad in Vegas for a guy with a different name who is buying gold and jewelry, cash paid on the spot.  If he really is the name listed under ebay, I  have his parents name and address in Skokie, IL.  I can always call them and ask all about their son  :97-

 :72-

This is not as cool as the CD model, but i only paid $1.99 + shipping. When it arrives from Hong Kong, I'll let you folks know how it works out.
http://cgi.ebay.com:80/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180366145594&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com:80/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180366145594&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:MOTORS:1123)
2Moons

I've bought stuff from hong kong...takes a while but is usually worth it! :89-

Well, I got a fed ex tracking number on my three toppers (including Dana Carvey as the Church Lady) from the ebay seller...maybe, just maybe this isn't bogus after all ??   :71- :30-

-enforcer

When you get your box, try to open it up when the delivery guy is their. Or use a video camera and tape it when you open the package.
My nephew ordered a laptop from eBay. When he opened it up there was a brick in the box. The shipper stuck to his story that when he shipped it the computer was inside. Had a hell of a time trying to get his money back from paypal. Basically because the seller said he shipped a laptop and the buyer was trying to scam for insurance.

I wish you the best and hope that you do have three topper safe and sound with no shipping damage.
Please post pictures, I also like the Saturday night one.   :89- :89- :91-

Oh, wow, that looks like exactly the thing I need for a different project of mine.  I'm VERY interested in how well it works -- please keep us updated!

:97- :97- :97- :97- :97-


very cool flasher unit? 3 fast flasher.huh..perfect for my high speed pin.extra police light..lol.. :72- :97-
i could use those for my other garfield topper?i bought 10 channel control board paid lot more...did you find one have 3 output  for.99 cents???hehe..that all we needed for the Garfield topper 3 channel chaser light...  :3-  :72-

Here is a four channel one.  That sould work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180366144925&viewitem=&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180366144925&viewitem=&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching)

I bought the 4 channel one as well. Only .49 + shipping. I hope it works...   :96-

Rob

0.49$ even better will use ch4 to make his eyes flashing or add color LEDS in his eyes??. :25- :97- .-lol..thank

Here is the 3 channel east chair model & they sell a 12v wall wart to go with it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1pc-12V-5050-SMD-LED-RGB-FLASH-30CM-STRIP-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ180356237276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item29fe11c7dc&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A30 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1pc-12V-5050-SMD-LED-RGB-FLASH-30CM-STRIP-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ180356237276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item29fe11c7dc&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A30)
2Moons

 :81- OK it occurs to me that there has to be a simple way to make Garfields border chase like it should :103- so I took the insert off one of my Sigma toppers I have that is pre-wired for all this stuff. :89-  Inside is a chaser controller and doing some research online, the company that makes these controllers is in California so is a product made in the USA. :131- :131-  I like that idea. 

Anyway, I just sent the company an email asking them if they still make these controllers and how much they cost.  I am including a couple of pictures so ya'all can see what I am talking about.  It works great for the Sigma toppers.  Maybe I'll buy another Garfield topper from Buzz and try this out on a topper.  My brother likes his border lights on all the time so hooking it up on that one isn't an option, at least until I can show him how nice it'll look with the chaser lights  :97- 

Anyway, on to the pictures.  :96-

And a couple more pics.

Whew!
I've been inside toppers like that.... :8-
everything is dry and brittle from all the heat it took when the fluorescents were on 24x7.
Be careful if moving anything in there because the wire covering will crack and split...
exposing bare wiring and possibly causing shorting out problems in the very near future...

yeah, that one needs a good cleaning, even has leaves and what looks like rice in it.  Wonder if it found it's way into a dumpster at one time ..  Still will be nice though once it's cleaned.


Thanks,
Wayne

Thanks for the advise but I think this is one of the toppers that will be gutted for parts, not positive yet though.  Am thinking of trying that chaser controller on my brothers Garfield topper - or A Garfield topper if I can't sneak his past him, LOL

ashyron,

Got the Garfield Topper all wired up.  Lights up fine.  The only thing I noticed was that the transformer, after an hour, gets so bloody hot, it is almost too hot to the touch to take out of the outlet.  I don't want to cause a fire and all.  Any ideas ? Its a 13.5 volts DC and 1 amp rated transformer...

Thanks,

enforcer

enforcer    Look at Sommer's reply #94 in this thread  ( page 5 )  I hope someone jumps in and sets me straight but why can't the 12 volts be supplied by the slot machine itself ? truth of the matter is I haven't checked a S plus to see if it has 12 volts anywhere. maybe I should put brain in gear before mouth ( fingers )  in motion   :103- :103-

Buzz,

Are you suggesting I go to ac as opposed to dc and go down to 12vac and 1/2 amp transformer...would that cool it down ?   

   I'm not making any suggestions. I do think Ron or I aren't the right people to give the right advice. I hope a electrician will jump in here and help us both out!!  :99- :99-

The straight story about voltage & current for Garfield toppers. I took a look at the boards and found that they were meant to run on 12 volts DC. I lit up every light on mine, & measured the current draw. It measured 1.1 amps @ 12vdc. I found that the candle lamps are incandesce lamps and are current hogs. With both lit up they drew over .3 amps. I replaced them with 2 color changing Leds that I got from Zone Auto. My candle now slowly drifts through every color of the rainbow. Its kind of gaudy, but I like gaudy. After I changed the lamps in the candle the total current draw was .710 amps. I’m waiting for the flasher module & 12volt switching wall wart power supply that I have ordered from Hong Kong. If you have an honest 1 amp power supply your in fat city. Not all power supplies deliver the voltage & current that they have printed on them. It’s easy to tell if your transformer is over rated. When you plug it in and the voltage drops below 12 volts and it gets hot, that a sure fire way to tell that your power supply is over rated. If you leave it plugged in it will try to deliver voltage until it melts down.
#1 Use only 12 Volts DC #2 Get a power supply that will delver 1amp @ 12 volts DC
If you don’t follow these two rules, don’t whine when something melts down.

Awesome..Thanks for the testing and laying out the straight scoop! as I will be getting 3 of these in my near future !

   I meet with this Gentlemen a few days ago and came to the conclusion that he knows what he's talking about.

Good stuff 2moons!! :3- :3-
There's nothing better than good instructions and documentation for future fixes...
What you've posted will definelty help someone out in the future...kudo's to ya man!

Very good information in this thread, I'm sure it will help many in the future.

K+
Thanks,
Wayne

Thanks for that Buzz. :131-  I was just going to refer enforcer over to Sommers reply on the tests he done.  I just followed his recommendations for the wiring. 

I have been reading up on all this and have gotten tons of advise and what I have come up with is these LED lights are to be run on DC power only and if you have it on AC they will eventually wear out from the wrong current.  Maybe not now, maybe not tomorrow, but soon..... and for the rest of your life.  Oh sorry, darn movie quotes that pop into my head. :30- :30-

So what I am thinking of doing is giving Buzz's idea a try and trying to wire it direct from the slot machine as long as I can find some DC power in there.  And suggestions where there is DC power in an s2000?

In the top box do you have the extra board in the back?  Gives you multiple plugins for  13vdc,25vdc and netplex hardware.  You can also look on the back wall behind the BV and you should find a power plug for the backlit reel controller and if not used you can grab that.

Hello All
I bought this switching power supply off eBay. It's rated @ over twice what I need, so hopefully it will deliver a solid 12 volts DC @ 1 amp with out over heating. It's rated @ 2 amps & if i only put a 1 amp load on it, it should deliver a solid 12 volts dc & just be loafing along.
http://cgi.ebay.com:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160330736130&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160330736130&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123)
Have a good one
2Moons

Well, the 3 toppers arrived yesterday.  Like the Rodney Dangerfield and SNL/Church Lady/Dana Carvey - really neat !  Although, a bit dusty with some masking tape attached to the back of all of them, they were packed fairly well.  Really had expected bricks to be in the box since fedex said the shipping weight was 39 pounds for three toppers ??  However, they are really big and heavy after all....Now to get them up and running !! Hello ashyron ?????  :96- :96-

Anyone have any thoughts about using Novus to try to remove fine scratches off the toppers ?

Congratulations.  :3- :88- :92- :wa :136-
So glad that worked out for you.

I would definitely use Novus for the plastics on the toppers.
Please post pictures when you have time.

Enforcer, use the same pictures and it should work on the other toppers too.

What is Novus?

Ron, Novus plastic polish is a three part cleaner, polish and scratch remover system ... Restores And Polishes Plastic Surfaces. Many Uses For Novus Plastic Cleaner & Polish.

#1 is a clean & shine.
#2 is for fine scratches
#3 is for heavy scratches.

Google for Novus plastic polish. It will give you places to buy and it's many uses.

Ron (r273)

i will follow the same wiring instructions ashyron.

7 or 8 new toppers went up on ebay today - including another Jeopardy and a Blues Brothers.  I would love that Blues Brothers one....look out !

  I would love that Blues Brothers one....look out !
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Does that mean you are bidding on it ?

I got my Garfield topper and was so psyched !! My wife is not a real Garfield fan so I created this:  I bought plastic glass at Home Depot and cut out the shape of Garfield.   I'm going to get this printed at kinko's and place it on the glass. 

Wow!  :131-

That's pretty fantastic Munch!  :3- :3- :3- Can't wait to see it lit up... :89-

Thanks -  The only think I have to worry about are the Garfield eyes.  They have different color LED lights and it may bleed through.

Hello All:
I guested right about the 2 amp 12 dc supply that i bought on eBay. It came in the mail today & I hooked it up and let it run all day. The PS barely gets warm. this is an over kill, but I'm sure it work well & last a long time. When I get the flasher from Hong Kong, I'm good to go.
Good Luck 2Moons

Does that mean you are bidding on it ?
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Buzz, would love it, but shipping is showing up at over $38, making it an $88+ item without it creeping up even more before it closes....I think I will take a pass....

Does that mean you are bidding on it ?
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Does that mean you want it Buzz??? :103- :97-  I am pretty much out of room for toppers so now it's time to start looking for decorations.  WOO HOO

 No I don't want it !!!!

Oh I was just joking.  I didn't figure you would want it.  If I remember correctly you didn't want the ones you got but you like them now. :71-

Hello All
I got my 6 output led switcher from Hong Kong. I was sad to discover that it had only 2 channels, and it's not going to work to well for 3 channel chase lights. I have one of the RBG 3 channel switcher with RC on the way. That one should work great for the chase lights on Garfield. When i get it I'll give all an update.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1SET-12V-5050-SMD-LED-RGB-FLASH-30CM-STRIP-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ170344300826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27a94fc11a&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1SET-12V-5050-SMD-LED-RGB-FLASH-30CM-STRIP-CONTROLLER_W0QQitemZ170344300826QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27a94fc11a&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30)
2moons

geee.. :25-.i bought one 4 output lol..probably only have 1 channel then?..lol..cause your 6 output have only 2 channel.. :71- can't wait to get my 4 output?  : :25- :30-
? i think these will go to my high speed pinball mc,..? :71-

ashyron...i removed the chaser controller unit out of your old topper and the rest is junk? :97- the unit is work great...have some wire pic. u might needed?  :71-

 

i recomm,to all? use 12vdc(dc) 2amp or higher..3amp? :88-

I imagine it's still 2-channel.  That seller is selling a lot of emergency/police-type lights which would flash back and forth, so the 2-channel thing makes sense, regardless of the number of outputs.

Som, great job.  I contacted the company that makes those controllers and they are $34.00 bucks each plus shipping.  Did you make a video so I can see what it looks like with the chasing lights?  Did you get rid of the rest of the topper??

Chaser controller from another topper.! work great.!! i have to add a resister 30ohm 1w. at chaser light cause is too bright?for my topper..lol..maybe my home made power supply had too much capacitor? :96-they're 12vdc 4amp, with(36,000uf.)capacitor...! :72-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6TpOANGyZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6TpOANGyZk)

That's awesome.  I kind of knew that chaser would work, and I love what you did with the candle too.  What is that star you made?? I want one, LOL just kidding.  Chip still likes his topper with all the lights on, isn't ready to have them chase yet.  I can't believe the company that makes them controllers wants $34 bucks each for them.  They have one for $30 bucks that is made more for the LED's but even still I think that's allot of money.  Still, nice job.

Sommer that looks great. Being able to control the speed of the chaser is a nice touch. The next step would be to tie the chase speed to a machine and have it speed up when credits are being paid out for a win.  :79- :71-

Or have it chase faster during a spin.......
or go from chasing to just flashing during a spin......

Or just click the vendor links at the top of the page and get one for $19.99


http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSU-ELECTRIC-SIGN-FLASHER-V1-7-LIGHTS-IN-MOTION_W0QQitemZ380132072413QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5881a31bdd&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12 (http://cgi.ebay.com/MITSU-ELECTRIC-SIGN-FLASHER-V1-7-LIGHTS-IN-MOTION_W0QQitemZ380132072413QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5881a31bdd&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12)|66%3A2|

Pardon me, I just had a seizure  :97-

Mine isn't Garfield, but it's a topper none the less  :5-

http://www.youtube.com/v/KyHyLqzTpgA (http://www.youtube.com/v/KyHyLqzTpgA)

Cool, what makes it change functions......

We made light organs in electronics class that could likely me worked into a slot to react with the sounds of the machine.  I'd have to dig through my memory for that though.

Thanks,
Wayne

Those are the standard IGT oval S2000 toppers.  Just apply power to the wires leading to the LEDs and they cycle on their own -- it's not programmable or changable by the end user.

Yup, Kevin got it.. he knows everything... it's just a circuit board with some LED's on it. That video didn't turn out near as shaky as I thought it would since I was standing in an office chair, now that I think about it, things could have went terribly wrong.

I bought that topper about 4 years ago, got it and looked at it for about 4 days and put it back in the box and tossed it in the garage and forgot about it. Never would have found it unless I was looking for some packing tape the other day.

Brian,

I call that a pleasant surprise! Now I want to get a topper!

CaptainHappy :95-

I try telling people that but nobody believes me.   :72-

I got this one from Renee Pafundi awhile ago, I haven't seen anything at all in her ebay store latley, I had to make my own harness tho' only drawback and they won't fit an S+ without some extra help from external power supplies , 24V for the flour. 12V for the LEDs


Just send them here Kevin, we'll tell them and they'll have to believe us, they'll have no choice.

Hello All
RBG controllers come in 2 flavors, Common Anode (+ LEADS TOGETHER) or Common Cathode (- leads together). The Garfield toppers use Common Anode all of the pos. leads tied together. I received my RBG controller from Hong Kong & you guessed it it's common cathode. I ordered the correct controller & when it arrives I'll give you all an Update.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350209295779 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350209295779)
2Moons

Hello All
Garfield lives. The controller that i got from Hong Kong works well. It allows me to adjust the brightness & speed of the chase lights. The lamp rod i got at the hardware store allowed me to attach Garfield to the top of my machine. The 12vdc 2amp power supply that I used is just loafing along. I measured the current draw for the finished product & It's less than .7 amps. This is what worked for me, Good Luck with yours.
2Moons
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350209295779 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350209295779)

Holy craps!
I didn't know that there was a cabinet that big behind the Garfield sign...!
Usually, toppers only have about 4 to 6 inches of a box behind the screen...
everything (wiring,ballasts) is usually tight as heck to get at to work on.

Yeah  -  I enjoyed learning about the LEDs inside there too. - I thought there would just be a bulb inside. 

2Moons, nice job !

Would it be possible to post a schematic of the wiring hook-up instructions for the controller ?

Much thanks,

enforcer

For what it's worth I think that is also a Pic of Ron's brand new, high dollar LCD. monitor.  Happ thanks you and we thank you. 

Anyone know if this would work to make the lights blink?

http://store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=340 (http://store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=340)

Looks like it's made for 110 Volts switching. Bad Idea! Unless your into accidental electrocution.

(400W for each channel at 110V.
Separation of high and low voltage to prevent accidental electrocution.)

I don't know if it'll work but if you get that particular one, you're going to have to solder everything onto the board.
Those kits come with a whole bag of resistors, and various components that you have to figure out what is what and put it together...
I bought some kind of kit like that and it's still sitting on my desk in the bag....lol
I had no time to decipher and assemble it...

2Moons, thanks for posting the pictures of your GM and Garfield.  :3-
Could you possibly take a closeup picture of the new LCD monitor without using flash? I'd love to get a good look at it. :71-

Hello StatFreak
I did as you ask and took a couple of photos of the LCD display.
I ran into a couple of problems #1 the screen shots exceed the maximun attachment size allowed. #2 The photos do not do justice to the LCD display. In the photos the focus appears a little soft & the color saturation a little low. In the real world the focus is sharp a tack & the color saturation is rich and full.

If you would like to see the photos that i took, send me a email address & I'll attach them and head them back to you.
Have a good one 2Moons

Thanks. :3-

Finally have time to finished!!! :71- 10 channel controller DIY..kit..for my other garfield topper,i thought it would take me about 30-45 minute job...nope ..2 1/2 hrs. :97- :97-

couple more

Sommer, THANKS for sharing YOUR solution!  :3-

Inquiring minds may want to know Where to get this kit? and apx $$$?  :129-

Kit for sale from MFG

http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=351288 (http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=351288)

I am not sure of the cost.

 i bought it from ebay!! here some other link too.. :89-
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=390054892783 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=390054892783)
 
http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/ligh/vek8044.htm (http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/ligh/vek8044.htm)
 
http://www.hobbytron.com/10ChannelLightEffectGeneratorVK8044.html (http://www.hobbytron.com/10ChannelLightEffectGeneratorVK8044.html)

Can you post some pics of it ?  Working with the Garfield I mean.

I was staring at my Bally and noticed the lights flashing in sequence.  Could I use this somehow for the Garfield topper?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCczORNW_M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCczORNW_M)

Hey Thanks, JDK. I put up some light shadowboxes in the thread "found on Ebay" there were several of these boxes and the seller mentioned they were for the topbox. You just showed the type of machine they are used for!  :89-

 Dan (tacman)

I went to work on the topper today..Got it working again...it had a bad power cord switch.
It will eventually get back to it's rightful owner...lol
This is one of the nicest little toppers I've ever worked on...
Everything is crammed like into a sardine can in there!
I stuck it on top of my Bally 5500 Wild Rose 2CM for testing...
very, very colorful...the  picture does not do it any justice...
cheap camera...lol

Nice Vegas sign bunker.
Here's a trivia question; When and who designed that sign for Las Vegas?  :103-

I dunno...Bugsy Siegal? :5-

It's either him or Elvis...lol

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No, it was a woman named Betty Willis. It just happened to be in my local paper this week.
http://www.mvprogress.com/2009/35/bettywillis (http://www.mvprogress.com/2009/35/bettywillis)

Uniman, thanks for posting the link to that article. I learned something new this evening. :3- :71-

Indeed I found it very interesting reading, go the girls  :3- :wa

I need some help, i know the question has been answered allready but i dont quite understand what to do.
i just got a garfield topper (and a cool front panel from the game "its all about me" (that also lights up suposivly) and i want it to light up and chase!
i have checked the links posted for the parts but sadly they are expired. can someone please tell me what part i need to make it chase? i think i understand how to wire it to light up.

Toward the top of this page, click on SEARCH and type in " Garfield "  You will find a ton of info.

well i searched all the old threads and just came up with more questions. i did find a controller for the lights on eBay but dang is it expensive! does any one know where else to find them? and also what kind of topper does Garfield fall under?