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If you want to make your machine Multi-Denom, A few things to look for and do.

On your main board the version chip needs needs to be one of the following: VSO11 (GX1), (IH1) or (NX5). I believe some older games and GME's will not give you these Multi-Denom options.
If you have the long or short reel glass you can change it out with touch pad and LED lighting which has the built in VFD board and you use the touch pad on the reel glass to choose denomination.( see pic 1 ) and other parts will be needed.  Hold on to your seat $$ if you can find one.

Other option to use with a long or short reel glass is a standard small button and place it in the far right side of your button deck (providing your button deck has the extra spaces with covers on them) ( see pic 2 )

Check to make sure the button deck wiring harness has the connectors you will need. Open your door and look at the wires above your BV lights, you should see 4 wires with connectors tied up ( see pic 3), colors will be:  RED, Black w/red stripe, Blue w/brown stripe, Yellow w/orange stripe. Remove the plastic tie wrap and hook them up to your switch. ( see pic 4,5,6. Mount your button in the deck.

Now you need your key chip (31 or possible17) these settings are based on GME 312,362 and 363. Go to [7 key chip configure] and then 7.1.1.3 (player Denomination) and there you can select up to 4 player selectable denominations to be used by the button. Some choices might vary depending on what your accounting denomination is set at.

Go to 7.1.2 (Game Selection) and put what percentage you would like each denomination to play at.
EXAMPLE:     .25 92.4 %
                   .50 92.4 %
                   .75 96.2 %
                  1.00 98.7 %

Exit setup and make a insert for the reel glass and your new button  :88-. 
Remember some of the games with older GME's won't handle this. Not sure if this will work when using a S+ game in the cabinet. maybe it just wont allow for different % settings.

pics

last ones

I have been think about that on my model 2004, S-2000. What is this on the back glass? I know it only lights
up on the left top side of the 25 cent sticker (1/4 of the sticker). Sometimes when it is starting up the light moves
around all four locations and ends up on the left top one.

Wonder what else I would need to make it work?

Ron

Nice setup Ron,only seen that style display at the casinos,didn't know it made it to our world yet.   The newer VFD to use with the touch panel for player choice of denomination.

If your software permits (game,version) all you need to do is remove the VFD bar and see if there is a touch panel in front of the LED box,look at the copper colored panel in pic 1 If you have that you would just need the cable  which is not present in the pic otherwise you will need the panel and cable.

I might have a cable for you and a small denom sticker for the reel glass,will look tonight

Looks like I will need a touch panel, cable and a sticker for it to work. Anybody have a touch screen for sale?

Railroad, PM me with cost if find them. Thanks.

Ron

OK I tried this on a Triple Diamond SB100058, VSO11GX1 and GME1 & 2 SG000363. I can change 7.1.1.3 (Player Denomination) OK but in the 7.1.2 (Game Selection) after Game #1 it jumps around to different game numbers. It does not follow sequence, #1, #2, #3, #4, etc. Can not save some of the settings I pick.

 :99-

Ron Make sure you have more than one denom picked on the 7.1.1.3

Yeah, I picked .25, .50, .75, & $1.00.

Ron

When you have player one select a denom and then payout %.

Move to player two and do the same.

I have tried setting this up on two different machines, this is what I get using  SB00100 (Tabasco) or 
SB100058 (Triple Diamond), VSO11GX1 and GME1 & 2 SG000363. My setups are in blue.

7.1.1.3 Player Denom.
           Player #1 $0.25
           Player #2 $0.50
           Player #3 $1.00
           Player #4 $2.00

7.1.2  Game Selection (All read $0.25 at top of each game #)
         Game #1: LSO13017  (98.03%)       Game #6: LSO006745 (92.50%)
         Game #2: LSO006742 (97.45%)      Game #7:LSO006746 (90.01%)
         Game #3: LSO006743 (96.24%)      Game #8: LSO006747 (87.47%)
         Game #4: LSO006744 (95.02%)      Game #9:LSO006748 (85.01%)
         Game #5: LSO013016 (93.94%)      Disable

As I understand from the PSR SG000363 you are "to assign a payable to a denomination, press the Cash/Credit button
until the cursor (no cursor)is aligned with the appropriate denomination, and press the Spin Reels button until the appropriate payable
name is displayed."

I can not change the percentage on the game selection. What is it I'm I doing wrong?

Ron

In 7.1.2
Use the Change Switch to pick the player denomination IT will change in the upper part of the VFD as you do.
Then use Cash/Credit switch to pick the pay table for that denomination.

Spin button resets to original config that was in effect for that particular option.

Thanks for the reply Foster. When I push the Change Switch when showing Game#1 $0.25 LSO13017 (98.03%) it jumps to
$0.50 Disabled. Push again and it jumps jumps to Game #3 $1.00 LSO6743  (96.24%)?

Also how do you save a setting? Do you have to push play to save then go back in for game #2?

Hope I have not confused you the way I am right now. :5-

Ron

Once you have the denomination showing, press the credit/cash out button to change from disabled to any available pay table in your base chip.
Basically Change button picks one of the denominations you have have set up as the four denominations available
Cash/Credit picks the pay table, disabled being one of them.
If you make a mistake on a denomination just cycle back to it with the Change button
Max Bet to exit and save configuration

You can make changes as long as you do not exit out of the key chip menu fully.

When I change the Denominations it changes all the games to that Denomination. If I pick $0.25 it changes all games to that. If I pick
$0.50 it changes them all again.

Thanks again for your help but I will call it quits for today as I have been  :58- :58- :58- :58- around with this for 4 1/2 hours. :37-

Ron

Ok Ron don't get  :37-  seems like you have everything right just have to work on the set up,unless there is something that I'm missing. I currently don't have a game running multi but should be doing it tomorrow night.  Drop me a PM with your number and we can go through it at the same time.   You don't even have to send me that nice touch panel multi display  :96- unless you really want too  :72-

<edit> It is working now thanks to Foster and Railroad94. Once you have the amount showing at the top of each game selection
(by pushing the change button) you push the cash/credit and watch the percentages change (pay table) on the right side to select
the percentage you want. DO NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THE GAME NUMBER AT THE LEFT OF EACH PERCENTAGE. (See above
7.1.2)

Hope this helps someone in the future.

Ron

ADMIN DELETED A BUNCH OF BLANK LINES AT THE BOTTOM> CH :95-

That's great! Good job guys! :3-

 :99-   Old topic brought up again. Ever since I put a select credit value button (Multi-Denom) on my S-2000,
my Mikohn display quit incrementing. I have had many many suggests to get it to work but to no avail. :37-   
I would like to have someone walk me though the settings by phone if possible. If anyone can find the
time to do this please PM me with your number and set-up time.

Thanks

Ron (r273)

When you go into 7.3 Progressive
You have to pick each denom and select link Level 1
I just did it on my machine.
I removed the Spectrum from the topper and put the Cham II+ in
The thing is you have to pick it for Each denom
If you call me, I will key chip mine so I can walk you through it step by step.

Wow! Ron thats a gorgeous machine... :244-  I never realized the reel glass on those games was that fancy!  :3-

A Tabasco reel machine is really pretty! :89-
I like those much more than any LCD video screen machine.
You "feel" like you're playing a real slot machine - not an overpriced computer game.

Ron since you can't get it working I'm sure you're so tired of trying you just want to give it away, PM me for my shipping address, I'll take it off your hands for you

Gee!...You're no help!  :208- :97- :72- :200- (just kidding! lol)

IT IS WORKING! Thanks to Foster expertise. So I won't need your address. :72-

Ron (r273)

Ron,
Glad I could help you out.

Great JOB FOSTER!!!! :3- :3- :3- :3-

Was it just the "set each player" settings in the options?

DAMNIT!

 :208-

For whose who are dieing to know what fixed it, I am not going to tell.

Just kidding. All my setting were correct. We unhooked the J15 connection and shorted out the coin in and the ground.
It showed C-51 and flashed back to the original amount, over and over. I turned the power off to the CHAMMII+ and it
reset itself. Hook the J15 connection back, and it worked.

I would guess it was my twisted wire connection (instead of soldering it) to the J15 plug that was at fault. All had worked
before the select credit value button was installed. Who would have guessed it would be a connection?


Ron (r273)

I want to publicly thank Foster for his phone help. I had been been working off and on trying to
fix this for several months. I had used the key chip to change/look at  the settings at least 20 times.
Read and reread the posts about it until I was about to give up. Out of the many talented people here,
Foster stepped up to the plate and offered to help me. I thank him very much. He is a good man in my book.

Ron (r273)

You can paypal me any time for the endorsement. :72-

Wait! What was that fine print?  :208- :97-

hahahahahahahah      :208-

I don't know I never read the fine print!  :208- :208- :208-

CH :95-

Got a question..... Are all the 6-6-3 meters set up with the connection for multi denom panels?
Tommy

Is a game 597 done the same way it takes a 31 to set   paul

If 597 and your base supports multi-denom  then I believe it should be done the same way.

Foster is the man.
A very smart, & one of the nicest guys around.
I would also like to thank Foster & others for their help. I can't say enough good things..
Richard

Yes

hello friends I have problem with the auxiliary button programmed everything but the button does not work could someone please help me

was your machine set up for the touch pad panel for multi denom at one point?

if everything works with the control panel but I have 5 machines only one has the control panel so I put the button but does not work
            Player # 1 $ 0.25
            Player # 2 $ 0.50
            Player # 3 $ 1.00
            Player # 4 $ 2.00

 7.1.2 Game Selection (All read $ 0.25 at top of Each game #)
          Game # 1: (90.50%)
          Game # 2 (90.01%)
          Game # 3: (92.01%)
          Game # 4: (92.01%)
7.1.1.4  1 button player1
           2 button player2       3 button player3     4button player4

if everything works with the touch pad panel but I have 5 machines only one has the touch pad panel so I put the button but does not work
            Player # 1 $ 0.25
            Player # 2 $ 0.50
            Player # 3 $ 1.00
            Player # 4 $ 2.00

 7.1.2 Game Selection (All read $ 0.25 at top of Each game #)
          Game # 1: (90.50%)
          Game # 2 (90.01%)
          Game # 3: (92.01%)
          Game # 4: (92.01%)
         
 7.1.1.4  1 button player1                        3 button player3     
             2 button player2                        4button player4

Do you have 5 5 2 displays or 6 6 3 displays?
5 5 2 means the display has 5 digits each for Winner Paid, Credits and 2 digits for Credits/coins Played.
6 6 3 means the display has 6 digits each for Winner Paid, Credits and 3 digits for Credits/coins Played.

IF the player display is a 6 6 3 display to use multi-denom you have to have the touch pad and LED box behind the reel glass.
The player button on the deck will not function with a 6 6 3 display.


The reason is the touch pad controller logic is part of the 6 6 3 display board.

IF you have the touch pads and they act like they are not functioning try moving the wiring between the touch pad on the glass and the LED box.
 

if it shows me 6 6 3 but with the control works fine but when I use the auxiliary button does not work the button on the side of the bill acceptor

IF you have the 6 6 3 you can not add a button to the player deck that would be used to select the credit value.
The machine will not let you since it detects the the touch pad controller hardware that is part of he 6 6 3 board.

I have 5 machines only one I could get the touch pad panel but want to work with the connect button and set the display 6 6 3 me but I could work please help me is a problem please :103- :211- :30- :89-

You have to get the touch pad parts for the machines without them if they have the 6 6 3 display it will not work any other way.
The other option is to change the 6 6 3 to 5 5 2 then you can use the player button on the deck.
 
You can not substitute the button for the touch pad on any machine with the 6 6 3.

 

muchas gracias karma boy a probar

karma boy thank you very much to prove

karma I have problems when I change the display from 663 to 552 7 segment display shows me mismacht

and could not set up so when I usarel auxiliary button 552 gives me segmnt mismacht display please help or I have to make clear to the machine ram

Use key chip and change it in key menu 7.2.7

I have a few machines to display s2000 tabasco 6-6-3 with printer but want to change to multidenominacion

7.1.1.3 Player Denom.
           Player #1 $0.25
           Player #2 $0.50
           Player #3 $1.00
           Player #4 $2.00

7.1.2  Game Selection (All ready )
         Game $0:25   (90.01%)       
         Game $0:50   (90.01%)     
         Game $1:00   (95.02%)     
         Game $2:00   (95.02%)     
   I want to help button does not want to use the touch pad could help me please any suggestions please
           

when I change the display 7.2.7 6.6.3 to 5.5.2 error mismacht
I think I have to put e. 7.1.1.4 disabel panel button

if you have the 6-6-3 display you have to use the touch pad if you disable all the buttons it will re-enable button 1 for you.
To use a button you have to physically change the the displays to 5-5-2 and of course change them in the key config menu.

if I can use the button to display 6-6-3
 and enter settings to disable the buttons 7.1.1.4 -
 1 button disabled-2-3and 4 - please or how you could set it

You can not use the button next to Max Bet with a 6-6-3 display
when you change the display to 6-6-3 in Key config Menu it looks for the touch pad and expects you to use it.
I ma in the same situation, I have a 6-6-3 and only the LED box. changed it from a long reel to short reel setup
I have to get the touch pad (its harness), etc.
 

5-5-2 with the display button you can use the auxiliary-thank you very much for helping me

hello forum friends, I have a machine vision and made ​​a convercion to 2000, the game is tabasco. I want to put an extra button multidenominacion, my display is 5 5 2, as do the wires to the button, please

If it is a vision machine and you have not changed the player button harness, you will not have the wires for the Multi-denom switch.
You can  look near your max bext switch and see if you have 4 wires with the connectors tied off.

thanks

Ron
I am looking for the same thing on my Triple 777 5 reel slot it is 5 cent now but I have the window that looks like you could change the denom to what ever. I would like to have 1cent 5 cent 25 cent 50 cent can this work....
Dan

You have to have several things to make it operate as a touch pad.
1. 6-6-3 Coin Meter.
2. Copper colored touch pad under the reel glass.
3. The small harness that plugs into the back of the light box to the copper colored touch pad.
4. The correct SG chip that supports Mult-Denom.
5. Version for Multi-Denom.
6. Set-up in Options 7.1.1.3 and &. 7.1.2.

A picture of the back of the door showing your touch pad light box would help.

Ron (r273)

Hello Ron Thanks for the info I will  include the shots from the back of the door..
Dan

You can review Railroads 94's post and lets us know what your questions are.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=3406.msg28455#msg28455 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=3406.msg28455#msg28455)

Only problem I see you might have to change the minimum denomination to get your
1, 5, 25, 50 cent demon. (requires a clear and key chip)

Ron (r273)

Ok on my machine I do have the version chip Gx1 on the main board.
Can I find a key chip as needed 17 or 31 and where do they go when I do get them..?
I would need the sticker for 1 cent 5cent 25cent 50 cent or what ever might be had..
Dan

i need the sensor plat for mine

What is your chip number on the  SG chip? That will determine key chip needed.  Key chip temporally
replaces the SB chip to turn on your options. After, you replace it with your SB chip to excess
your options.

To change less than 5 cent denomination you will need a Clear chip which will require
resetting all your options (somewhat hard if  you are a newbie).

You can purchase a Clear and the Key Chip with instructions and the Denom sticker
from one our vender's at the top of the home page.

Ron (r273)

 :50- I have the photos of the chips stepper base, 1, 2
sb100924 base
sg 000523 gme1
sg 000523 gme2
both 2006 for the year...
Thanks for all the information I hope we can make this mod..
Dan

PSR reads that you will need keychip 31 or it's replacement.  i recommend Jim at blueridgeslots but there are several others who can provide you with the keychip; lots of vendor links at the top of the page. :89-

Ok the chip is on its way I did get the clear chip with the package so we will just have to see when I comes....
I also found the proper progressive unit and software so I will have a lot of work to make all the things work....
Thanks for all your help and I will be back....
Dan :20-

 :211- Ok mine is working now 1 cent 2 cent 3 cent 5 cent Thanks for all the help.
One thing that I did find out for all others that our working with the Multi Denom setup ... Make sure you have all your credits clear on your machine I had a time with that one.
If it is set proper with your key chip it will come up in key chip config mode after the machine resets that is the only way you can make changes to the base chip. Next I will be setting  up my Charm II like the machine had at the casino. I just hope I have all the parts..
Dan

Need to find the insert for the multi Denom I have the 1 cent 2 cent 3 cent 5 cent .... Anyone have a idea where I can find one????
Dan

Not to hijack this thread but I need the same too.

Ron (r273)

I too am interested in this... I have the VSO11, the 6-6-4 meter on my triple double wild cherry machine...
Where can I find/purchase the touch pad; the harness to the led box,  and the sticker to make this all work?

You can heck with the vendors listed on the main page.

You can also post a Want to Buy "WTB" in the classified forum here as well

I purchased mine from another member Raz410, you can also PM him and see what he has available.
I have also seen them on eBay in the past.

Without knowing what you have in the machine, this is where a picture of the inside of the door, area of the denomination light would be very helpful.

Thanks Foster.

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I just found a touch cell at Rudy's, But it was his last. As far as the pigtail to connect it, GOOD LUCK, they as rare as hitting a jackpot and are they tiny, too tiny to hard wire. as for denom stickers I have just about any one you might want. I have almost 400 of them, anyone who needs one let me know. $5.00 shipped.
Lindsay

You will need the touch pad, the dividers, the touch pad harness and of course the denom label with denoms you might like.

Foster,
I'm confused about your term dividers. my touch cell seems to be divided into 4 separate cells.
Lindsay

Here is a picture of these items.

Ron (r273)

And the small harness that connects the touch sensor pad to the Multi-Denomination board.
Picture show this upside down.

Ron (r273)

I get it. The only thing I'm missing is the Light Divider and harness. It looks like something very easily made from any thin  plastic, as for the harness that might be a bit of a challenge.

I don't remember for sure, but it was either slotsteveor simon barsinister that seemed to have a bit of stuff for this a while back. And pwrstroke had a bunch of the shadow boxes.

I made a few of those tiny Picofit harnesses a few years ago.
I will never make them again! lol
That was NOT easy!

This is the link to the thread on how to make the different harnesses...
or at least where to get the parts to make them...>>>

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=8227.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=8227.0)

There are 4 plastic dividers that snap into the light box that he is missing otherwise when one portion of the LED board lights up it will slightly light up the area around it.