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Why are the members email addresses visible when you mouse over the envelope icon?  They also show up in the HTML, which means they will end up on spammer's mailing lists.  Well, already have is more like it.  I can Google for the posts I made two days ago, so I know the email addresses went somewhere too.  Doh!

Even if I am not logged in, you can still see the email addresses.

You have the option of hiding your email address in your profile.

But it does make it hard to spam send you things.....

I would think and expect a free e-mail account like g-mail, hotmail, & etc would be inundated with spam and viruses :25- :37- :89- :52- :46-

I use yahoo for a lot of my mail - I get about 50 items captured in to the spam folder per day. I get about 3 or 4 others that are spam that I kill off without opening.

What I have never understood about spammers is when they send me a message with a subject line of "qqqqqqquuuu7" do they really think that someone is going to open it.

Spam is what I grew up on. My mother uses it as ham, bacon, ground beef, steak, and other assorted meat.  :76- :76- :76- :76- :81- :87- It's part of being from the south.

When I was in the Netherlands fried spam is considered a delicacy. I chose to stick with the Indonesian influenced food.

I do however use it in Jumbilia, Denver Omlets, etc.

What I was trying to say is tha the 'hide your email address' function doesn't work.  Any Joe Blow can come in here and get anyone's email address simply by mousing over the envelope icon, even if you select to hide it in your profile.

The food called SPAM is disgusting.  Ever read how much sodium is in one can of that so-called meat?  And fat. 

Of course, I suppose I'm a hypocrite, I eat Devilled Ham on Saltine crackers.

And my karma went down by two, so I suppose I've upset someone already.  Damn.

karma on this site goes up and down  :72- :72- :72-
as far as your food you dont have expensive taste eating that stuff  :72- :72- :72-

goodluck on your machine purchase
rocket

I'll post after I get it set up.  If they ever allow slots at the race track in this state, I may be able to make a second job learning to be a slot-tech.   :94-

Thanks for your advice.  Spend the money you won on those wagers well.

IM ASKING ALL MEMBERS ON THIS PLEASE REPLY ON FORUM

NOT POINTING FINGERS BY ANY MEANS ..  :60- :60-

since johnnyg started this subject ..made the post of visible email adresses i have recieved piles of spam
which i never recieved before ..plus the COMMON spoof emails from ebay and paypal to update my account ECT.
that ge forwarded to :spoof@ebay.com & spoof@paypal.com

if anyone is having over there normal share please sound off .

 seems odd thats once a month on ebay i get one for the typical saying
 your current info on file needs updating but not wacked within the last  20 in 48 hrs
about 40 of the spam  & ebay updating :58- :58- :58- sh@@T
rocket

This is because the email addresses are plainly visible in the HTML and quickly harvested by bots.  You will probably find bot names such as EmailSiphon and Cherry Picker in the web log files. These robots are malignant and are used by spammers to harvest email addresses.  They are usually looking for "mailto:" type links.

The hidden email feature needs to be fixed, but that's just my suggestion.  I'm using a Gmail account, which does an outstanding job of filtering spam and is disposable.  No such luck for many of the people here from what I can see.

Once on a spammer's email list, forever on all spammer's email lists.

hi johnny my significant other as i refer to her  :72- :72- :72-
on this forum not in person  :72- :72-

works for the gov . yes here puters are quite friendly on not letting anybody in except
who can . yrs ago mine was the same .. but like google everything is saved now everything

great episode on dateline nbc a few weeks ago about unsolved murders traced back to conviction of suspect
because he googled how to do minor wounds on   himself a few yrs before he offed his wife .. oops!!
rocket

I might point out that the posts in this forum show up on Google in less than a day and a half.  I Googled for an exact phrase I typed in one of these threads a few days ago and whammo, it was the first hit.

I am getting NO more spam than usual.....

To answer your question ROCKET... just cause JohnnyG noted this in his post doesn't mean we would get more spam...

The harversters are just like the google webcrawller... they go out and touch each page and its very easy to parse for the @ symbol. Just cause it appears hidden here - the email address is very visible in the HTML code that the harvester wouild touch so despite his post showing how to make it visible, it would have no bearing on how a havester would work - they either procure it or they don't.

No more than usual here either.

I have nine or so POP accounts and receive little to no spam.  Most of my accounts are fronted by a Gmail account with the same prefix so that if for some reason it gets out of control, I can ditch it and create another Gmail account.  This way, I never give out any of the 'real' email addresses unless it's when I email people I know/trust directly.  As an IT person, I detest spam and spammers to the nth degree.  I even use Mailwasher to filter my email before I download it.  Great little program too btw.  Allows custom filters that allow regular expressions so you can filter on information in headers, like IP addresses.  It took a while, but I automatically delete all email originating from China/Taiwan/Korea and other Asian countries.  I have no friends or business contacts there, so screw them all.  ;)


Ah, to test this, create a bogus email account comprised of nonsense characters that don't mean anything and make it your forum email address for a week or so and see if you get spam.  If you do, then it has to have come a bot that harvested it from this site.  Not that I have the time for this, but that's a sure way to test it.

Well, that's a good sign.  You'll know if a bot finds this site, trust me.

Hey, I've been slowly adding ip ranges to my e-mail server as well to refuse smtp connections from the Asia Pacific Network, do you have a list of ip ranges handy?

JAY,
i was not saying that because johnny g came on board WE OR ANYONE ARE GETTING MORE but i am lol
 it just seems i never ever get spam

i run 4-6 computers depending where i am at the the haunted mansion here ..
the one i use frequently as all do have extensive firewall protection malware virus etc etc etc
 i personaly have been lucky to NEVER GET A VIRUS EVER..
but it seems that the boys have been busy lately on ebay sending out the spoof mails ??
perhaps because i have several accounts & have been using the buy buy buy accounts alot lately .i know my
geez . ... ohhh.... hate ....to ...sayyyy..IT ..KRIPT TONIGHT .. g-friend has ..oh fiancee to be proper  :72- :72- :72-
 no jokes please
its 12 YRS NOW  & still going good not married ..when asked when???>> i say MAY --- MAY IT NEVER HAPPEN  :72- :72- :72-

hey its y2k now it ok .. oops woppner 5:oo  oclock !! :3- :3-

I am using Gmail too. I must get 100 spam emails a day, and it filters every one of them. It is excellent. My hotmail account does get spam, but not nearly as much. I use google for newsgroups which is a sure bet for spam.......

I wish that the email part of this site was not handled by links - it's a known way to harvest addresses. That being said, I have no other complaints, and the email thing is defenitely tolerable. Thanks to the admins for doing such a great job with this site!

James

APNIC is quite extensive.  This should cover most of it:

58.0.0.0/8
59.0.0.0/8
60.0.0.0/8
61.0.0.0/8
116.0.0.0/8
117.0.0.0/8
118.0.0.0/8
119.0.0.0/8
120.0.0.0/8
121.0.0.0/8
122.0.0.0/8
123.0.0.0/8
124.0.0.0/8
125.0.0.0/8
126.0.0.0/8
169.208.0.0/12
202.0.0.0/8
203.0.0.0/8
210.0.0.0/8
211.0.0.0/8
218.0.0.0/8
219.0.0.0/8
220.0.0.0/8
221.0.0.0/8
222.0.0.0/8

You forgot 127.0.0.1  :72-

Dude, you have an AOL account, you should be used to  :76-.

There's no place like home...

Thanks.

What does the /8 and the /12 mean after the IP address?
Would that be the first 8 and first 12 in that particular address (i.e. 210.0.0.1, 210.0.0.2, 210.0.0.3 ... 210.0.0.8)?

Thanks!
Joe

That's the subnet mask, separates the network bits from the host bits

/8 = 255.0.0.0
/12 = 255.255.0.0


It's shorter to denote the mask this way than use the dotted decimal.

"/n", or /8 and /12 in this example, is called the IP prefix or network prefix in CIDR notation.  For example, when I say 59.0.0.0/8, I'm telling you I'm referring to all of the possible addresses in the range of 59.x.x.x.  /8 also signifies a Class A address range and also the number of significant bits used to identify a network (i.e., the netmask).  If I were to say an IP address of 59.10.34.113 had a netmask of 255.0.0.0, this is also equivalent to /8.  The most common are Class A (/8 or 255.0.0.0), Class B (/16 or 255.255.0.0) and Class C (/24 or 255.255.255.0).  To specify an exact address, use /32 as the notation.  In my example, if I referred to 59.10.34.113/32, I am talking about that exact address - /32 is equivalent to a netmask of 255.255.255.255.

Not sure how to explain this without referring someone to IPv4 TCP/IP FAQs.  IP addresses were assigned as blocks/ranges way back when.  And in a haphazard fashion too.  There was and still is a lot of wasted IPv4 address space out there, especially with a few Class A ranges.  I work for NOAA, which 'owns' all of the 140.90.x.x Class B address space and a surprising amount of that space is still unused.  It's actually kinda pathetic because we are running out of IPv4 space.  Slowly, but surely.  That's why IPv6 is a hot item, but that's a whole other discussion that makes my brain hurt.

Actually the correct netmask for a 12 bit IP range number is 255.240.0.0 the second octet is only a 4 bit number so 256 - 16 (2^4) - 240, thus the netmask.
a 255.255.0.0 netmask is a /16 address.  In the range given in the example

169.208.0.0/12 the valid addresses in that range is 169.208.0.1 - 169.223.255.254  (208+16-1 (since you start at zero) gives you the range of addresses valid for that subnet)

The addresses at the ends are referred to the network and the broadcast in this case 168.208.0.0/12 is the network and the 169.223.255.255 is broadcast.

.... NERDS!  :72-

 :5- :5- :5- :89- :89- :89- :71- :71- :71-

I'd like to think as just knowing the stuff I work with everyday.  :3- :3- :3-

Right.  But we're still nerds.

Nerd = Network
           Emergency
           Response
           Dude

The network is the computer....

DOH! :25-

You're right, gives you an idea of how much mush my brain is after a week in the pressure cooker I call work. :89-

Thanks and Karma + to JohnnyG, brichter, and Rick for your explanation of the /n.  Once again I learned something new today (as Rick's tag line states). But I can see that it is only the tip of the iceberg on IP address's.
Looks like I have some reading to do!  :89-

Funny how some turd keeps giving me Bad Karma.  So your Karma+ actually brought it up to one number less than it was last night.

How amusing.

If I change my pic to some 24 y/o hottie, will that get me more Karma+?

good karma for all.

W

A 24 y/o hottie is always appreciated :72- :72- :72-