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:88- I still consider myself a newby to slot ownership. I have owned 1 s+ roundtop machine for about 4 years. I have had many game kits thru it that were fun to play. My wife likes to go to the casinos and play them for a while but looses interest fast when she does not win.  :8- . Same at home, I love the machines and have 4000 tokens to play with and I am content playing for what ever I get back :3-
She will play for a short time and lose interest.

Best thing I ever did  :3- :3- :3- :3- :3-  Bought a tournament chip  :96- :96- :96-

Now my RWB hit top award 10,000 coins at least once every day or so :96- :96- :96-, second award of 5000 a couple times a night :89- :89- :89- and 240 coin mixed 7's every few turns :89-

Can't keep her away from the machine now.  :25- :25- :25- I think I created a monster :30-  :200-

She was not interested for the past 4 years but now I can't get near it myself and she wants to know what other games have tourney chips :30- :30- :30-

She now knows how to reset the tourney mode with jackpot key all by her self where before she did not know it had a key :60- :60-

So.....If you have a less than interested partner :99- try a tournament chip.

Check the bible for applicable games and post what you need a chip for here and the great people here will guide you in the right direction and see that you get it done.

Just paying it back for all the help I  have gained here.  :131- :131- :131- :131-

Great post......
I have thought about getting a tournament chip but was not sure.
Your post may have just pushed me over the breaking point.

K+ for your post

GET IT !!!!! You will be glad :89- :89-

And thanks for the K+, I try where I can :71-

These are the games and chips you need for a Tournament machine!>>>
S+ Reel Slot
Tournament Reel Proms
(TYPE 14)
These are the tournament proms used during those popular slot tournaments. 
They operate in two modes,
standard mode, where they operate as standard reel chips,
and tournament mode.

Prog#'s    Max%    Hit Freq    SS Equivalent    Paytable      Game                      Multiplier

ST0001 999.376 88.748              SS3634            126A            Double Diamond               3CM

ST0002 1,609.417 78.254           SS3634            126A            Double Diamond                3CM

ST0003 999.973 40.885              SS3285            104B            Red, White, & Blue           2CM

ST0004 999.973 40.885              SS3286            104B            Red, White, & Blue           2CM

ST0005                                     SS4218            121B            Cartoon Wild Cherry          5CM

ST0008 999.973 40.885              SS3287            104B            Red, White, & Blue           2CM

ST0010 500.326 30.618               SS3043            94A             DBL Jackpot/5 Bar/Cherry 2CM

ST0011 500.137 37.244               SS3287           104B            Red, White, & Blue           2CM

ST0012 500.137 37.244               SS3443           126A            Double Diamond               2CM

ST0014 999.376 88.748               SS3632           126A            Double Diamond               3CM

ST0015 999.98   78.748               SS3340           107A            Sizzling 7's                      3CBP

ST0019 999.376 78.426               SS3634           126A            Double Diamond               3CM

ST0020 999.98  37.961                SS4713           213B            DBL RW&B                     3CM

ST0021 999.973 24.377               SS4555           104A            Red, White, & Blue           3CM

ST0023 999.218 34.273               SS6205           237B            Double Double Diamond    3CM

ST0024 999.218 34.273               SS6207           237B            Double Double Diamond    3CM

ST0025 999.994 53.904               SS4785           217B            Triple Diamond                 3CM

ST0026 999.994 53.904               SS4787           217B            Triple Diamond                 3CM

ST0027 999.758 62.845               SS6266           243B            Triple Jackpot                   3CM

ST0028  999.758 62.845              SS6268           243B            Triple Jackpot                   3CM

ST0031 999.236  29.185              SS6272           242B            5x Pay                             3CM

ST0032 999.236  29.185              SS6274           242B            5x Pay                             3CM

ST0034 2288.498  75.391            SS7239             34A            Joker Wild                        2CM

ST0035 752.889 65.568               SS3823            126I            Double Diamond                5 Line

ST0036 2003.313 45.177             SS6273            242B           5x Pay                             3CM

ST0040 1225.367 44.542             SS3656            192A           WS Red, White, & Blue     2CM

ST0041 2064.266  39.362            SS3285            104B           Red, White, & Blue            2CM

ST0042 999.94 24.377                 SS3280            104A          Red, White, & Blue            3CM

ST0058 1073.407 11.837             SS12520           107A          Sizzling 7's                       3CBP

ST0060 2550.24   37.126             SS6274             242B          5x Pay                            3CM

That st0005 is allways a blank on odds? any clue what they are because that is my next one on the to get list for her??? :99-

I am not sure what the % of that one is...
but I'll bet you it's way better than in a real casino!  :72-

Are there any s2000 tournament chips? Thanks

Why is it that every list always omits the ST0060? :8- :37-   and after all that work I did getting the data. :79- :96-

Prog#'s    Max%       Hit Freq    SS Equivalent    Paytable        Game        Game Multiplier
ST0060     2550.24%    37.126        SS6274*            242B           5x Pay          3CM

*This is based on my own calculations, which exactly match that SS-ID:

Prog#'s       Max%         Hit Freq        Stops          Top Award     2nd Award                Win Freq
               (1st. Coin)                                             (Hits/Cycle)   (Hits/Cycle)                             
SS6274*    90.045%        15.432           90AAA         2K/5k/15k(1)   1500/3000/4500(11)       6.480

Moral of the story here is GET while the GETTING is good .... a SECOND machine makes for a better tournament........

With a second machine you can have a linked progressive and compete who hits it first!!!  :79- :79- :79-

Well at least I was not dumb enough to have the new jackpot bell plugged in for those 10,000 coin hits, she would not be happy when it woke up the grand baby :30- :30- :30- :30- :30- :30- :30-

I fixed my list Stat....thanks!!! :96-

Rick,
K+
I like that Idea........

What is the least expensive way to link two S+ machines. Currently I have one machine with a stand alone dual display mini photon progressive. I am adding a second S+ machine with nothing. What equippment do I need to do this? And where do I get it???

IF you mean progressive Mikohn CON1 and LED4
For progressive:
If I remember right you only need 1 con1 and a LED4 display and controller for each machine.
Of course it could be con1 for each machine.

Check out the NLG Mikohn progressive forum plus Rick's FAQ Files. 
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0)

For accounting data and game stats, that will be hard to accomplish for the home user.
I know of no one on here that has done it yet.
If they have maybe they could tell us how they did it.

Just looking for a simple two game shared progressive system to use in tournement pay at home. nothing fancy needed. Need simple and available and cheap not fancy :96- :96-

I am not sure what CON1 and the LED4 cost lately.
Lemans69 may have the parts and Jay (NLG admin) knows exactly what you need.
If you want linked or shared you will have to go with mikohn or other vendor that works with the S+.


 

You can't use progressive while in tournament mode.  You can play them in regular mode, but tournament mode disables progressive functions.

The least expensive way for an S+ is a con1 with a cham1 and a display.  You don't even need two displays, just one.

I have a cham II power supply p/n 780-027-50 and a cham II display 12 cell p/n 321-007-60. Guess I need the con 1 and wires harness now? Am I headed in the right direction :103- :103- :103-

The CON1 uses the same connection point in the S+ as the ChamII+ but only uses two wires and not 3.

SLOT===CON1===LED4 controller === Display.

A LED4 is also known as a Cham44 and is used to drive the over head displays.
A LED5 is also known as a Cham1 and is used to drive the smaller 12 cell meters that are used inside of a machine.

The CON1s can support 1,4,16 or 32 machines. Joey (our host) has a number of the CON1s for sale. Not sure about meters (displays).

The progressive will increment during a slot tournament but - it doesn't do anything special.

The mini-photon (behind the payglass display) however will show seconds, coins etc.

If I want to use these two pieces I have...what controller should I get

If you want a standalone progressive you need a ChamII+

If you want to use a linked progressive between machines you need a CON2  and a ChamII or ChamII+

The ChamII is only used with a link controller and you can get these inexpensively.
A ChamII+ is its own standalone controller but can be used in Link mode with the addition of a CON2

Yes I want to link 2 machines...So I need a Cham II and a CON2.

You will need a Con2I to be specific. A regular con2 (non I) will not work with IGT machines. That was a $500 mistake that I made once. The I versions go for slightly more.

You can comparison shop, but I beleive you will be able to pickup all the CON1 series of parts for less than just what the CON2i will cost you.

Can I use a CON1 with the parts I have?

No. It can't be used with a CON1.

What you have is a power supply and a meter (fancy name for the display). The meter is designed to be connected to a ChamII or ChamII+

The path of least resistance (the cheapest also) would be to purchase a ChamII+ This will give you a standalone progressive with one machine. You are looking at less than $100 as you only need the board with no power supply or meter.This however will NOT give you a linked progressive.

When you want to go to the linked world you would then purchase a CON2i and change the settings on the ChamII+ to be in linked mode for use with the CON2.

The CON2 can be used to control several displays and if you want to go big you can get a supreme and a larger overhead display This will let you do graphics and such as well.
This the most professional way to go.
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I will throw out one more bone - that I am not endorsing and have not personally tried - but I have heard of people paralleling the wiring harness of a ChamII+ to a second machine.
I am sure others who have tried this might jump in here.

From my understanding of this the negative of this configuration is that if you had two coins drop in at the exact same time its quite possible that one would be ignored as the coin-in sensing is simply a brief short of the COIN-in and Grnd wires. It is also conciveable that if you had several machines hooked up this way that the succesion of several machines could trigger the machine into thinking that a jackpot has been hit as the way the S+ triggers a jackpot is to simply short the wires for longer period of time (ie 3 seconds).

With a COn1 or CON2 the progressive display would say WINNER MACHINE #2 or whatever machine hit the jackpot, the amount would reset to the base value and the other machines would continue play adding to the new jackpot - in this configuration you would not be able to identify which machine hit, and the progressive would not continue. This is probably against all casno rules but in a home environment I doubt it will be a reglatory concern....

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The CON1 on the other hand is inexpensive in comparison to the CON2. The LED5 and displays are about the same price as the ChamII (non plus). The LED4 + over head display is generally a lot less money than a supreme. The only negative I can pass on is that the Con1 is not capable of driving graphics like the Con2 is.

I would first idenfity how much each set of parts cost.....and make your decision from that standpoint. Its been a while since I priced out any of the hardware.