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another one of my wonderful projects - MYSTIC BALL finally got to this guy - seems? complete - except for BV - power up get a S L E A C H    O U L   (letters a little strange) - display - siren going off.   TAG says VISIX - found some references to this game in NLG indicating FRANCO (is a spanish manuf).  anyone have any info?

Hi

R Franco is indeed a spanish company. From what i gather Visex was an american distributer but they ran into some legal trouble.

Link to their website

http://www.rfranco.com/ (http://www.rfranco.com/)

Link to BV manuals for RFranco - No sure if its the one from your machine

http://www.clubdediagramas.com/archivo/maquinas-tragamonedas-slot-a1218/r-franco-m4307/ (http://www.clubdediagramas.com/archivo/maquinas-tragamonedas-slot-a1218/r-franco-m4307/)

Does you cabinet look like any of these ?
http://www.rfranco.com.ar/gabinetes-r-franco.html
Sorry that all i could find - Maybe some of our South American members can help

here is a picture of the machine - I got it to display a "BILL VALID"  error - by check all the cherry switches - there is one for the mpu board door - 1 for the door itself and 2 loose ones by the BV - changing them to normally open - normally close - still get the BILL VAID error - looks if I can get by this I am in.  (there are no other switches in or around the BV - it is stripped out.
1st picture shows the error code
2nd picture is the entire machine before I got past the 1st error.

Franco had a deal a few years ago with Shufflemaster. I saw plenty of product on the line, but never saw anything come out the door, so I suspect it all fell through. I may be able to track down an old friend at Shufflemaster and get some info if this is a recent machine.

added update and picture of machine.

appreciate any info - must be something simple now that I just have the BV message - may be as simple as bit switch or a ram clear since there are no switches left to adjust.

Hello Barry

Ok i found some manuals but its all for the newer products as listed on the one link in my original post.
Does the serial tag have any kind of model number printed on it ?
I am guessing that theBV needs to be disabled but would have no idea if its simply a setting and if some kind of clear needs to be performed.

Ian

the Franco tag inside machine "RODILLOS S21-F" . there are 5 bit switches on the main board.   There is a small board mounted behind the bv - not sure what it does - will try disco the connectors one at a time to see if there is any change.. Next will be try bit switches - that one will take a while.

Hello Barry

Dont know if this is relevant to your cabinet. Its some BV info for their street machines. The only other manuals on their site is for the latest machines.

Ian

That must be it - there is a 4 bit switch (actually there are 5 different bit switches on the board - only 1 of which is a 4)  -  since I can't read spanish - really makes no difference the are only a few combos of off/on for that board - so I will give that a shot - THANK YOU!!!!!!

GOOD NEWS - BAD NEWS - well I changed the bit switch #4 and powered up - got some CONFIGURE CHANGED message - progress - WELL - lets see if there is a sram clear using jumpers DUMB MOVE - moved a jumper and fried the board - DUMB.   Well looks like I got by the bill validator.   Have NO IDEA what to do next.  SO CLOSE and now SO ??  Thanks to all who chimed in - for the rest of you - you can YUK IT UP.

BUMMER    sorry to hear about the board.  Hope you get lucky and maybe see a trace or two burnt that you can use some wire on.

after I dropped down from my ceiling and stopped yelling*U*UWW  - I checked the fuses - then I looked at the board - NADA - looks like there is a jumper for 5v to SOMETHING ELSE - well guess that something else was not good. And I was getting so close -most lilely I need a set of CLEAR CHIPS - which are probably as rare as finding either a new board or a replacement - SO - I have a nice decorator.

Hi,

This machine is still operated in France in some casinos. I will ask for the clear chips you need.
I used to have Franco reel slots, they were strong and reliable machines. In case of jackpots, first MPU door had to be open, then the reset key had to be turned.

Balligator1973

that would be GREATLY appreciated.  thank you.

There is one of these machines on phoenix craigslist for $50. It is missing bill validator.

I think Joey might have a few of these... :200- :72- :97- :208-

i still have my non-working - i put it away for awhile - will most likely give it a go sometime this month.

He did he had 2 mystic Balls and two Dragon Fires, (Same Machine, Different game)
He decided he did not want them so now i have them, some wheel and deal these things are a pain. I got passed BV error that FOX was having by disconnecting the board behind the BV. But now have a 85 code and no idea. Out of the four i am missing at least one board so i may be able to share some parts.

One a these days you're gonna show up at the shop when I'm there so we can officially meet... :200-

I dont know if thats a good thing  :97-

I am there quite a bit now so we should meet soon, I wonder if we will ever get the mysticball going... :88-

well I have run out of projects SO the Mystic Ball is back on my bench.   What I have now are alot of flickering 8s -  Insert Coin - Coin Accepted - Call Attendant - all the lights are on.  Without a ENGLISH manual - or tech help - guess this guy will go to the scrap heap - machine not worth anything if you can't fix it - now - or later.  Does anyone have any pull in Vegas?  Franco does have an office there but I would assume can't deal with non-gaming licensed companies.

That must have just started, I was hanging out there the 2nd week in January. Even dragged Joey and the kids out to lunch, at a casino no less!

Barry,

 I talked to Joey about these machines, and he is not at all familiar with them, and the ones that he just got went straight to his son Joey III, (Ref above Quote) so if he gets them going, he may be the only chance at an expert! Or there may be parts available? Sorry that I could not help any more than that!

CaptainHappy :95-

 thank you for relevant info - rather than some who just like to butt in.   

I do have two Mystic Balls and two dragon games, i know that at least one Mystic and one dragon are going to be parts machines, so if you would like parts let me know. Today is my only day off work in two weeks so i will be out there later today working on them.

Joey III

Well i was working on the mystic ball today and low and behold i got one working... :3-


Here is the pic of a fully playing and paying machine.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Joeylc_III/Tech%20Work/100_1054.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57/Joeylc_III/Tech%20Work/100_1055.jpg)

I am jealous. 

Joey 3,

Good Job, but you forgot the slot handle!!!!  :208- :208- :208-

Those slot cabinets look kinda familiar!  :103- :103- :103-

 :244- :244- :244-

Now you have to get Barry's going for him! You are the resident expert!

CH :95-

P.S. Hi to all from me!!! Missed you last trip!

Yeah Yeah... it is in a heap of slot parts behind the slots.  :97-

I dont know about expert... does just swapping things around and making sure everything is plugged in and trouble shooting the errors make me a expert?  :103- Actually, Barry needs to get his hands on a DBV for it so it will get past the stack issue.

P.S. Let us know when your coming down next, would like to hang out.

So now that it is all done and working, anyone interested in it.  :96-
I honestly do not have a want or space for this game.

What are you asking for it? I to have a non working one I would love to get going but like Barry have no bv  and have not had time to mess with it. I guess I can add it to my growing pile of non working machines.

a big thank you to Joey - for checking my boards - so my board has issues - not sure what happens next.  Maybe the FRANCO fairy will leave me a set of boards under my pillow.  Oh well. 

CarruthersIII was nice enough??? to volunteer to check out my Franco boards on his working machine - It would be GREAT if he would RETURN THEM!!!!!! as promised.

Sorry about the wait, had a bit of financial problems, boards are on there way.

Joey III

Hello

in our casino we have lease machines from franco , models metal passion reels and video and also bingos, let me ask them if they have the mauals for your machine

if im correct the model its "RODILLOS S21-F" ??

thank you but my need is ancient history now - the machines are long gone. 

 

jejej ok no problem

Sent a Pm. Alot of people still have the Mystic Ball and would LOVE any information