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I just bought this from another NLG member. Its my first progressive machine and need help getting it up and running. I'm new at this so I don't even know what type on progressive controller it is  it is. the numbers on the one chip say u19cs e4b6 /   ch2 sta/v1.41/  c97 mikohn.

Problem. when I power up the machine it goes thru a check list and ends with a code c1 that flip back and forth to ($0.00)

The machine operates as I think the last owner cleared all the memory and set the denomination to .25c and disabled the printer.

Any ideas on what I can do to get up to speed on these units and get this system working again.

Thanks

Blake

Seems to be a Cham 2+ standalone.  You posted this in the right section and there is pleeeeenty of reading on this unit.  I'm sure other more experienced members
will help you on this unit but you will be needing a older computer with the Mikohn PSP program running and a cable that you can make to program the controller.

How is the display mounted in the top? is it glued to a wood frame on the glass or do you have brackets in the top box for the display?

The meter is attached to the back of the glass by some glued on brackets.

When you say an old computer I still have TI 16, I'm pretty sure I can find my IBM 286 out in the garage or I have a lap top that about 4 years old. Will this work ? also where can I get a copy of the Mikohn PSP program? and Instruction on how to make the cable ?

Man there sure is a lot too read. :79-

Thanks
Blake

Older computer,should of said older OS. I believe its not to good with Vista and I think windows 98 is a coin flip.  Lets wait for the progressive gurus to comment.

A computer with Windows XP 32 bit, 98 or 98 SE will do just fine for PSP.
I would say try XP first for networking.

Best to have a physical serial port even though I use a USB to Com Port adapter myself.

I use Sun Virtual Box to allow Windows XP Pro 32 bit to run on Windows 7 Ultimate RC1
I use mikohn PSP and EasyPRO software for my EasyPRO 90B chip programmer on Windows XP.
My Serial port is a USB to Com Port adapter based on a FTDI Chip chipset,

I have actually ran Windows XP, PSP, and EasyPRO on a Sun VirtualBox on a Mac as well with no issues.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=106.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=106.0)

Thanks Guys I'm almost there with the stuff I need to get started. The last thing I think I need is the psp programe. Does any have a copy or know where I might get one. :103-

Thanks

Blake 

Check the upload a new file section on here.
AOL rejected the e-mail due to some attachments.

Foster

I just tried to communicate between the con2 controller with the psp and I got my first error message wondering if any one can help. I built the cable as per the instruction and I get a error code (default error check controller #1) using the trouble shooting in the back of the book it states the computer is not connected to the controller.
Question in chapter three 3.2 it states I should connect the computer to the j4 plug. My j4 plug is not RS 232 could this be it?
Has anyone got a starting point for diagnostic.

I am using a XP lap top and have configured com1 to serial interface. I built the cable as per the instruction. Did I miss something?  :25-
My bad I broke the wire off the terminal when I tried to fit the connecter in housing. :52- 
Thanks

Blake

If you find that uploads fail, reboot the controller just before you hit "Send".

Upon further investigation I have found the j7 connector cable between the chamii and the slot machine is missing. Does anyone have an extra cable?

Also in the on board settings under menu=addr there is no Proto to flip between con2 and caslink

HELP!!!!

Thanks
Blake

The cable betweeen the controller and the slot machine is one you usually make yourself, not sure if anyone will have one for sale. Try Jim at Blueridge Slots.

can you send a clearer picture of the controller board itself, focusing on the label?

Britcher,


I seems easy enough to make the cable if I had the j7 connector for the ChamII

Here are the pics

Thanks

Blake

I also Have another Question in the J4 plug on the ChamII there is a red and an black wire connected to pins 2 TX+ and pins 3 TX-. These wires run to the lower cabinet and attach to a 6 pin connector. In the six pin connector there are three other wire that connect to the cpu board j85 connector plug. Pins 1 serial return, pins 2 grd, pins 3 machine input. Was this connector suppose to plug into something that is now missing.

Thanks

Blake

Hmm, I don't have anything connected to J4.

As far as the board settings missing the protocol, my firmware version is much newer (2.07) than yours. I have the option to select CON2 and CASLINK.

Is there any way for me update my firmware? :103- is there any place to buy the j7 connector?
Blake

I'd check with the vendors on top for the firmware...
they might have something laying around...including cables...
You're talking about stuff made in the late 80's-90's.
it highly unlikely anyone is actually producing this stuff anymore.
We've been archiving everything we can can get our hands on for people just like you!
These cable are not too hard to make...
try it!, it's fun to make your own stuff!
The pieces and parts are readily available from electronic websites such as mouser.com.
I can help you try to locate all the parts and perhaps construct one for your use.
check out the link on reply#5 knagl posted up.
See if it's something you'd like to try to make yourself?

The J7 connector can be had at an electronics supply company, like Mouser or Jameco. I used Cat5 cable for mine, and an IDC connector (less hassle than the crimp-type connectors). As Bunker stated, these machines are old and findingg this cable would be pretty tough.

I'd try Jim at Blueridge Slots for the firmware eprom, and if he doesn't have it, there's a good chance April at Lemans1969 Slots will. Links to both of them are at the top of this (and every) page.

Is there a later or a better system to invest in if I wanted to link five slots together?
Blake

Sure, a CON2I would be great if you have all IGT machines, but you're looking at several hundred dollars just for the controller. After that, you'll need a Supreme display (the bigger the better) and a Supreme controller.

Welcome to the Mikohn addiction, it goes right along with the slot machine addiction.   :88- :72-  :97- :208- :25- :89-

...only it just keeps on incrementing forever..  :96- :30-  :97- :97- :97-

Does anyone have a picture of con2i and how can I tell the diferance?
Does anyone have any for sale?

Here you go. There's 2 models, one for IGT (hence the I suffix in the name) and a CON2A, which works for non-IGT machines.

you have done it I am now hooked, I need five. Know of any for sale?
 

Once again, contact our sponsors at the top of the page.

I'm not sure you'd need 5, as the non-standalone models support up to 32 machines per controller.

Unless you've got ~150 machines? :71- :71-

When hooking up one con2 to five machines is there any other parts needed?

Just the wiring harnesses to the different machines, as long as the machines are the same (all s+ or S2000, etc.).

Wow even if I wanted progressive meters in each machine and a message display hanging from the ceiling?

Then you'll need meters and CHAMIIs to drive them for each machine, along with meters and a big display (and the necessary wiring). If you'd like graphics in the big display, you'll need a Supreme display and controller as well. The CON2 can handle simple animated text (scrolling and changing color).

Note that those are CHAMII not CHAMII+. The + is a standalone and is not necessary if being driven by a CON2.

Slot1------   Con2 ------ChamII---Meter
Slot2------           -------ChamII---Meter
Slot3------           ------ Supreme
Slot4------
. . .
Slot32

The Supremes are the large(r) overhead displays.


The ChamII's which are solely designed to speak to a CON2 (also called a super controller) are less expensive than a ChamII+
The ChamII+ can be switched from standalone mode to link mode, which is good if you already have a ChamII+ but if you are going out to buy, then I would look for the ChamII's

A number of people have accidently purchased ChamII's thinking they would work standalone so you can often pick these up very cheap.

Excuse the crappy cell phone video, now that I'm starting my new job I'll have time to post better ones.

The first is a 2x3 Supreme display connected to a Supreme display controller running Wheel of Fortune graphics, the CON2 isn't hooked up or there would be a progressive amount displayed.
The second is a 1x1 hooked up to a Supreme controller and a CON2 progressive controller, the text and graphics are supplied by the CON2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uiayXn3D5Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uiayXn3D5Q)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDnJKUOWTZI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDnJKUOWTZI)

  :131- OH YA this is exactly what Im envisioning  :3- :89- :3-

Thank you so much. Now its just time to find the parts. I started last night contacting the people at the top of the page but If any one reading this post has any of these parts for sale please PM me.

I believe this will be my best mission creep yet. I will post pics and ask questions as the job progresses.

Thanks

Blake

Not sure what mission creep. In the tech industry, if you were starting out with a single display in a single machine and wound up with 5 machines all with single displays in a system tied together with a controller and a big overhead display, we'd call it "feature creep".  :208-

Mission creep sounds about the same... :89- :71-

OK Just got back from a nice shopping trip and have returned to trying to get one machine up and running.

I am able to send the first three screen to the Mikon controller with no errors. Infact the jackpot amount reads on the display in correct currency. However when I get to the message screen inside the psp I tried to send f5 the demo do command and the screen reads "Default error, Check controller#1" on the next line is states "sending file DEMO_DO" then on the next line it states "Default error, Check controller#1"
and of course the only thing flashing on the display is the base jackpot I first programed in.

Where do I go from here guys  :131- :131- :131- :131- :131-

I have found that on some screens you have to press send many times, especially with the message screen.

Reboot the controller and send the file immediately after the reboot. That's practically the only way to get a CHAMII+ to accept a message file.  :79-
You may also need to check your hardware settings on the controller.

Those darn progressive systems...arghh!
It's amazing how much one needs to learn to get them up and running...
Don't give up...it's not easy but you'll get it going...
I remember a couple years back I spent hour after hour upon hours
learning, scratching my head reading endless topics on this - to get mine going.
When you can finally get it to where you want it...
you jump for joy and call the entire family over to see the pretty colors...LOL
After a few months, you forget just about everything and have to re-learn it
almost all over again just to change a message or reset it a little differently...ARghhh!!

Do this, when you get it all set up, write a few important notes on the programming on a pad and
stuff it on the box where the display is - for next time...

StatFreak can I ask the best way to reboot the chamII+ and at what time in boot up should one send the message file? I have programed many machine level eproms to preform certain tasked and the only time I have trouble having a program stick is when the hardware is not configured right I.E. a jumper is either plugged or unplugged or the timing circuit is not functioning right. What is the jumper on the ChamII for? :103-

When you say to check the hardware settings is there any particular setting that could help the downloading or display of the message do files.  :103-

It amazing how one could read the same books 10 times and each time someone keeps adding information in each book that wasn't there the time before. :89-  :5-

Thanks guys I will get it eventually after all I just bought all this stuff and I dieing to get it working!

Blake

I'm not sure why the CHAMII+ behaves the way that it does, but many of us have experienced it. I usually remove and reapply the power harness to reboot the controller. I send the file within 5-10 seconds of the reboot sequence completing.

After working with computers for over 25 years, and in particular MicroCrap Windoze, I've reached the point where sometimes I just go with the flow. :5- I've seen computers do things that make absolutely no sense and if something fixes the issue, sometimes it's best not to question why. :96-  :97- :97-


To clarify, I am not aware of specific hardware settings that would contribute to the issue of successfully uploading the file to the controller, but you stated that you are getting the message "Default error, Check controller#1", and that, I believe, is an independent issue -- at least it's one that I never experienced when attempting to upload a file. I'll withdraw my suggestion and defer to someone with more experience with that error.

Hope this helps.

SF :31-



I know what you mean!  :88- :71-  Don't worry, we'll get you up and running before you know it. :89-

New question then why am I getting error code  "Default error, Check controller#1"

Thanks

Blake