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Title: Backlit lights not working just dim ((FIXED)) Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 06:12:59 AM Hi,
I have a S2000 Triple Lucky 7s and the backlit lights are not working. They are dim but do not work during play. I did a self test and they just stayed dim with no change of brightness. I waited and gave up on time on the test, maybe I should wait more before pausing and moving on. Will the test stop or is it input stop? Oh well any info on getting these working would be of great help. I have used this site many times so I guess I need to donate and thank you all for helping. Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: CaptainHappy on November 22, 2009, 07:28:23 AM Scott,
I had a similar problem mentioned here: http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=5176.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=5176.0) In my case I have now diagnosed the problem as being a defective or dieing Backlit Reel Controller board. I swapped out the controller in my machine with a borrowed one, and the lights lit up bright as day when they should! It is located in a metal shrouded mounting plate on the back wall on the right side of the cabinet behind the Bill Validator slightly under the Reel Shelf. You may need to swap this board if you have a spare? There were some on ebay for a great price from LA slots before..... http://cgi.ebay.com/IGT-S2000-Back-lit-reel-kit-complete-for-upright-mach_W0QQitemZ260506013736QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca75e5028 (http://cgi.ebay.com/IGT-S2000-Back-lit-reel-kit-complete-for-upright-mach_W0QQitemZ260506013736QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca75e5028) Still there. In my case my problem is that I still need a 5 Reel Backlit Contoller Board as my machine is a 3 reel plus bonus reel style! By the way, I am still looking for one if anyone has an extra one please PM me. Can use either LED style or Standard style! :89- :89- :89- Also if anyone is familiar with this problem and has a documented solution for a board/component level fix that has worked for you, that would be great!!! :39- :39- :39- I hope that this helps you some? CaptainHappy :95- Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: CaptainHappy on November 22, 2009, 07:32:11 AM Just thought of something else as well....
Not all Base chips are compatible with backlighting!!! Do you know what Base (SB) and Game (GME) chips that you are using? Maybe someone can confirm if they are compatible for you? Also, I assume that you have the proper backlit strips with the black backing and translucent symbols for the light to shine through? Sorry, but have to ask some of the basic questions just in case! CH :95- Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 01:58:07 PM Yes I have the proper strips and I will check the game chips and repost.
Thanks, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: PWRSTROKE on November 22, 2009, 02:20:52 PM Scott, Is this a back-lit kit you installed, Or was it already installed in the game. Second if already installed has it worked in the past-?. Do you have the i/o cable going from cabinet i/o card to back-lit controller in place. Thanks B.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 03:11:20 PM I just bought this machine and they said it did work. The lights are constantly dim even during play and after play. There are three conection plugs going into the backlit board. I do believe the backlit reels came with the slot new.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 03:44:22 PM Quote In my case I have now diagnosed the problem as being a defective or dieing Backlit Reel Controller board. 99% this is the problem. Quote Not all Base chips are compatible with backlighting!!! If it is the proper SB, that is to say it plays and pays correctly, that game theme does support Backlit reels. If someone sold you the machine stating that the back lit reels were working, then I would suggest requesting a replacment controller board. Purchaed alone, the market price on this item is $50. Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: PWRSTROKE on November 22, 2009, 03:47:19 PM Scott, I was going to reply but jim beat me to the post- :5-. Pretty much what I was going to say as well. Just make sure all connections are seated in good esp the i/o as those can jiggle loose in transport etc.. B.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 03:55:15 PM Are these the right chips?
U19 5g000362 U46 5g000362 U44 Vs011gx1 stepper base SB100010 Thanks, Scott I'll try a new board. Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 04:01:45 PM Is this a 3 Reel, 2 or 3 credit multiplier machine ? Your problem might actually be the SB chip.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 04:05:04 PM The SB100010 is actually for a Triple Red Hot 7's, 2CM game theme, but probably should make no difference and guessing these 2 machine types pay and play the same.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: dansgames on November 22, 2009, 04:23:03 PM Had A problem like this some time ago, swapped controller, harness only to find out my center bulbs were just burned out :25- something simple but over looked. Try taking a bulb out of the bottom or top strip and put in the center.
Goodluck dansgames :5- Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 04:25:43 PM Quote Had A problem like this some time ago, swapped controller, harness only to find out my center bulbs were just burned out something simple but over looked. Try taking a bulb out of the bottom or top strip and put in the center :97- LMAO....I did exactly the same thing....you know Dan sometimes you just have to learn things the hard way. He is reporting that he sees them dimmed though in this case so may not be the issue.Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 04:41:54 PM Yes the lights are constantly dim, the same when playing or test. One question? How long does the test take? When I go to test mode I start the test and never finishes I always pause - stop after no change from start. My guess the lights should be flashing during test? Does it need to finish by its self or does it let the person to stop the test?
Thanks, Scott Do all lights need to be on to work or if one is burned out it keeps it from working at all? Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 05:02:21 PM Quote Yes the lights are constantly dim, the same when playing or test. One question? How long does the test take? When I go to test mode I start the test and never finishes I always pause - stop after no change from start. My guess the lights should be flashing during test? Does it need to finish by its self or does it let the person to stop the test? Thanks, Scott Do all lights need to be on to work or if one is burned out it keeps it from working at all? Because they are in a dim state, it tells me that they are receiving power, but nothing is telling them to go to full bright, even during the test mode. The test mode will flicker the lights in series and will repeat the process until you stop it. No, it does not matter if one or more of the bulbs is burned out. Likely the controller card is bad. A couple of things to check before you run out and get a new controller card. Make sure that both harnesses are fully seated. One harness goes from the contoller card to the MPU back plane. The other harness goes from the controller card to the I/O on the top right side of MPU housing. Make sure the I/O there also pushed back in and fully seated. Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Buzz on November 22, 2009, 05:11:16 PM I have never worked on a S2000 but make sure the the light bulbs are getting a good connection to ground
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 05:22:42 PM All seems to be seated so maybe I'll try replacing the board. Do you have any?
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Bettor Slots on November 22, 2009, 05:29:03 PM I'm sorry, although I do have a stock of them, I have to keep them for my clients that have purchased machines from me to forfill my warranty obligations. There may be other dealers here that can help you or as stated by another above, LA slots is selling these on Ebay at this time.
Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 22, 2009, 06:27:22 PM I'll check the bulbs for a good ground.
Thanks, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Brianzz on November 23, 2009, 10:05:31 AM If you go into the reel lamp tests this is what should happen when you push the spin button
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5kLiR375M0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5kLiR375M0) may be helpful to post photos of your I/O harness and your backlight controller Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 02:06:38 PM Thank you for all your post and videos. I have a new controler coming and will let you know if this solves the problem.
Thanks, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 23, 2009, 02:20:30 PM Both Ruden & Brianzz asked you if you could put up the numbers written on
your controller board so they would be able to determine if you have the correct controller... IGT made a few different boards and the one you're getting in the mail may not work either. Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 04:24:59 PM Will do, but need to do some honey do's since we are having Thanks Giving here.
Thanks, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 05:12:34 PM Hi,
It looks like: Vendor 101285 but the 8 was hard to read so it may be a 3? I can take it out if necessary. Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 05:15:15 PM WOW whats up with that? I just had to do some chores. I will look for the harness number.
Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 05:20:07 PM Harness number: 607-459-09A
Thanks for your help, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 23, 2009, 06:30:33 PM :97- :97- :97- :97- :97- :72- :72-
Quote ruden >>> "Irrelevant" It's only a guy suggesting that maybe the bulbs could be loose? What could be "Irrelevant" about that? It's certainly a possibility... I'll check the bulbs for a good ground. I'm done helping with this thread. If you're going to take the advice of someone with FAKE karma who says they've never worked on a S2000 and ignore the people who know what they're talking about, then hey, good luck with that! By the way, anyone on here that has as much or more karma than the number of posts they have is a phony. Karma != Credibility We like you ruden...you're one of a kind. Don't give up on us poor folk who don't know anything about S2000's...LOL What are we to do without your intelligent insights on the workings of a slot machine? Oh my lord... Can I email you a big bag of karma? Please don't get upset with us young fella - we're doing the best we can! No one gets paid to help anyone here, so with that in mind, that's what you get for free nowadays. A little bit more positive thinking would do wonders for everyone here! Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: StatFreak on November 23, 2009, 07:56:52 PM :97- :97- :97- :97- :97- :72- :72- Quote ruden >>> "Irrelevant" It's only a guy suggesting that maybe the bulbs could be loose? What could be "Irrelevant" about that? It's certainly a possibility... I'll check the bulbs for a good ground. I'm done helping with this thread. If you're going to take the advice of someone with FAKE karma who says they've never worked on a S2000 and ignore the people who know what they're talking about, then hey, good luck with that! By the way, anyone on here that has as much or more karma than the number of posts they have is a phony. Karma != Credibility We like you ruden...you're one of a kind. Don't give up on us poor folk who don't know anything about S2000's...LOL What are we to do without your intelligent insights on the workings of a slot machine? Oh my lord... Can I email you a big bag of karma? Please don't get upset with us young fella - we're doing the best we can! No one gets paid to help anyone here, so with that in mind, that's what you get for free nowadays. A little bit more positive thinking would do wonders for everyone here! :212- Ruden, your knowledge of S2000s and your intelligence have never been disputed. You are very valuable asset to the members of this site when you maintain a positive attitude and focus on helping to solve challenging technical issues. It never benefits anyone when one member bashes another for any reason, especially not for offering help, even if one deems that the offered suggestion has no value. I know that you can persuade members to adopt your position in a positive way; I've seen you do it! :89- :71- Besides, I've witnessed off the wall suggestions lead to fruitful outcomes in the past, sometimes in unexpected ways. :79- Karma has always been a way of saying "thanks" for helping out, or for posting something that the giver found useful, amusing, or especially interesting. Some members do a great deal of helping out behind the scenes, and that may account for some of the high numbers that you speak of -- and it's not necessarily help given directly to the site. The member you speak of has helped so many other members over the phone and by sending out free parts to those in need that I'm surprised his karma isn't higher than it is. I know that you have a great deal to offer to NLG. Please try to remember that not everyone is blessed with your knowledge, and that we are all here to help one another with what is, for most of us, a pleasant hobby, and do so in a positive and reinforcing way. I gave you, and everyone on this thread, another K+ :88- SF :31- :nlg- Global Moderator Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: SK8US on November 23, 2009, 08:09:21 PM First of all -- Thank everyone for all of your help --- I really appreciate every ones input and hope for continued support.
I have posted the board number and harness number and if anyone knows if they are correct please let me know. Thanks again to everyone....... Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim Post by: Thor777 on November 23, 2009, 08:27:26 PM I'll check the bulbs for a good ground. I'm done helping with this thread. If you're going to take the advice of someone with FAKE karma who says they've never worked on a S2000 and ignore the people who know what they're talking about, then hey, good luck with that! By the way, anyone on here that has as much or more karma than the number of posts they have is a phony. Karma != Credibility I have never worked on a S2000 but make sure the the light bulbs are getting a good connection to ground Irrelevant. Uhhh... :103- It seems to me that most are trying to help in any way they can. Sometimes members can offer solutions or direction from past experience even if it isn't their "speciality". :89- I for one have a good general knowledge of electronics but with the exception of S+ and S2000 very little actual workable experience with other types of slots. I still try to offer any bit of help that I think might have a reasonable chance of doing good. :5- Why can't we all just get along with out the recent negativity I have been seeing in a few different topics by a few different people ... Karma can be earned in other ways besides how many posts a member makes. Soooo.. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to ALL (I don't do the Happy "Hollidays" thing). Ohh, maybe it's all the Holiday stress... Never thought of that :30- Never Mind.... WOW ! ... Someone is already MAD at ME!... my karma just went down 1 point :8- Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim ((FIXED)) Post by: SK8US on November 25, 2009, 06:20:08 PM Thank you all for your knowledge in helping solve this problem. I changed out the Backlit board and It is up and running properly before all the guest arrive tommorrow for Thanksgiving.
Thanks again, Scott Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim ((FIXED)) Post by: Neonkiss on November 25, 2009, 08:12:12 PM Thank you all for your knowledge in helping solve this problem. I changed out the Backlit board and It is up and running properly before all the guest arrive tommorrow for Thanksgiving. Thanks again, Scott Nice work..... :3- :3- So, you found a bad ground. :97- :200- Happy Turkey Day. :169- Title: Re: Backlit lights not working just dim ((FIXED)) Post by: Foster on November 25, 2009, 10:18:20 PM It may as simple as one of the white fuses on the bad board.
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