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every week my s2k is locking up and i cant understand why? it locked up this morining.....i open the door the airhorns go off and i turn the reset key 2wice and it said sutten prossesor then i reset the key again and hold the test button for 3 sec and close the door it tried rebooten and went into a imediate lock up again.....saying now simcard error..... i go through the whole process again reset the machine and it locks up completely with the red button flashen on the board....i pull the board out and reinstall my sim card and it finaly reloaded acept it lost all the credits on the credit meter that were origanly there when it first locked up and the volune settings were altered ........... now it just  locked up again and it says "BASE EPROM FLY CRC ERROR -0XF004" what could the problem be?????????? :99- :99- :99-

Is your base eprom and original IGT eprom or a copy?
That could be the problem though I'm suspecting an MPU component starting to go bad...
It's sounds like the CMOS won't retain it's settings anymore.
Almost like you're performing a "clear".
How's the MPU battery?
Did you check it with a multi-meter to see what the voltage is?

i didnt check it yet should i replace it?

i was just righting this post and  the machine was on idle for like 15 minuts and it started locking up by itself really wierd.....

Yes, something's big time wrong...
It's either the battery or a power supply.
I'm not sure what though.
Better post all the details you can see...esp. codes popping up on screen.
There's a history test for errors and problems
You gotta find out how to perform those tests and get the error history
out of the machines accounting menus as well and post those too.
That may help members pin point the problem.

next wierd thing happened the board lited up with just the red button flashen then it wouldnt do nothen i pulled the  board out and put it back in and still flashen red light....i lifted the tray up a little  and it rebooted again....... what would the speaker tray have to do with the damm thing clearing that flashen red light and rebooten.....????

I had a Double Diamond do this to me. I removed all the chips from the mpu board and re-seated them. Ran through the frc error crap and whatever then it's worked fine since then. Been like 6 months and no problems. Seemed to end up being a ram chip error because it wasn't seated properly. Good luck!

well it did it again this morning, it turned on normal then evrything blanked out and all the lights were lite up on the board with a flashen red light i pulled the board out and slided it back in and it rebooted...... could it be the battery or do i need a new board:??????

I assume you checked for the 3v on the battery. If it's good, check all the plugs going to door io board and displays. Pull mpu out and re-seat all the chips. My Cleo went dead the other day with all the lights flashing and it was a loose plug on the door IO board. The error code you get on the display I really think is a chip problem though. If nothing else it eliminates possibilities

this s2k is wacked, it works for a little while, the minute u let it sit for 5 minutes it reboots itself by its self then 3 minutes later it blanks out.... i open the board i see 1 green light on 2 amber lights on and the red bottom light flashen..... does this sound like battery? i hope its just a battery.....

I'm really hoping you didn't do this while the machine was turned on...

Staz  Why don't you supprise everyone and test the battery ?????

Staz,

I don't know how you expect to get the machine up and running
without answering the questions other members suggest like the battery for one.
Check the voltage on the coin cell battery located at position BT1
Also if you have a flashing red amber led the board needs to be ram cleared
unless you find a chip that might not be seated properly
did you check the MPU for any bent pins on the back ?
The supply could also be loose or a loose harness somewhere
if your going to have these machines it's a must to have back up boards
and the key+clear chip it's that simple.

Tim

i didnt test the battery yet and i have to get a voltage meter, i might just replace the battery, i just cant understand what could of happened to the board.... like tonight i turn it on it cycles through then it said netplex link is down then it said netplex testing memory and it cycled through and i played it for a while then it just goes blank if it idles more then 3 minutes the progressive blanks out the netplex board blanks out all i see is 1 green light and 2 amber with a flashing red light ...... what are the odds of that being a battery issue?

the only thing i changed was the sim card on this i dought that would  cuase it?

who can get me this board?????? and this is a newbie? how do i get that battery out? thats the battery that needs to get changed?

No, not the green battery. You can remove the green battery and not install a new one.

You need to check or replace the coin-shaped battery, top middle of the first picture.

Staz,

Looking here in your first post I do see a clue in the error message. Every time I got that message it was related to the 40 pin base eprom either having problems or not being installed well. Do you have a backup chip that you can try, or can you make sure that it is properly seated? That is the enhanced S2K mph board with the legacy adapter daughter board. If you use proper static protection you can take that board off to get a better look to make sure that the base eprom is properly installed and fully seated. For some stupid reason they use machine pin socket inserts which are a pain. All of the others are regular eprom sockets. Also the base chip location is bad for installing and removing base chips became the tray gets in the way. I would have designed it differently! Another thing is that your widowed eprom do not have labels to cover the windows to prevent unwanted erasure.....


Just another thought....  You can check your battery voltage as well as has been suggested.

CaptainHappy :95-

I don't think you can do this on the Enhanced CPU's (eliminate the Ni-Cad Battery) like is possible on the regular (501, 502, 504) CPU

I'm with Jim on this. Thats not a 50* series board, it may serve a different or extended service than on the standard S2000 boards. Staz if you are looking for a different board, since you are using eprom/Simm programming, I would suggest a 504 board and MML II instead of getting another R board. Those reel boards have the same flash corruption volatility as the video 044's. Of course if you go to the 50* series MPU, you will have to change out the backplane. Jim, could that conversion daughterboard cause that problem? Maybe that is the problem and not the MPU? I know there are some I game programs that will not work with the eprom/Simm daughterboard with the 044 MPU.

 Dan (tacman)

I'm running the same game as Staz and am not having any problems with it.
Of course, I have the older 504 MPU.
You will never see any of my chips without labels covering the UV erasure glass.
He needs a spare known good MPU board to swap it out with the other one
to rule out the possibility of a failing power supply box.

so is this the battery i need to change????????? and  test? not the green one?

Yes.

I believe that board has to have the green battery installed for the machine to work unlike the other 50x series boards.

Didn't read down the list far enough .. see Blueridge's message.

What functions are handled by the green battery on the enhanced boards? :5-

okay i think i solved the problem, it was having the machine plugged in a surge protector and that surge protector plugged into another surge protector then plugged into the wall....apparently it wasnt getten enuff power im asuming that cuased power errors..... now its up and running so far...... thanks guys for all your help!!!!! but i decided im def buy a second board to have as back up just incase......

Good to hear that.  I have been watching your posts and progress throughout this thread.  Dan,  Tacman,  That is not a r-board,  Just a "daughter board for s-2000 enhanced".  R-Boards are very simular to .044 flash's.  The daughter board can also cause some silly errors as well--Been there -Seen that.  Almost sounds like an older home with only 2-prong recepticles with no ground and fluctuating line current to me.  --Just a thought.   B.

ure absolutly right barry my home 50 years old and all outlits have 2 prong ......hopefully now it should work ..... im running it all afternoon and its working fine..... im using 1 surge protector now for both my machines and my pc.....and thats conected to a 3 prong converter to my wall socket.......

Ok so after 3 pages you didn't bother even checking the battery?

it wasnt the battery but i am gonna change it to prevent any other flukes...... i finally get my ultimate machine ,never realized how many things can go wrong with a machine..... but from being a newbie i learned a lot about my machine ,special thanks to both jims at blueridge and better slots they were very helpfull..... :3-

Staz,

I suggest getting the multimeter, pulling the MPU board out, with the power off of course, and checking the battery voltage in circuit (i.e. not removing it from the battery holder) before you just replace it.... You may create more "flukes" :25- :25- :25- to deal with as you will probably lose all of your settings and will have to start fresh in setting it up. If it is what I assume it is, sometimes the setup is tricky! :5- :5- :5- In my humble opinion.... IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, DON'T FIX IT! :89- :71- :89-

CaptainHappy :95-

Now,
Let me see if I understand you correctly...you had a surge protector protecting a surge protector?
With sockets in your wall that do not have a proper ground connector - what protects the surge protector? 
The inside of your house better never see an certified electrical surge protector inspector... :5-

i will def do that, but i did wind up taken the battery out and taken it with me to radioshack,cvs,bestbuy,local tv shop, no place carried this type in stock a cr2354 and it seemed fine when i installed it again it brought up ram error and i cleared it, only settings i lost were minimal like date time volume  thats about it......i have the machine runnin now like 7 hours straight playen it on and off and no errors or blank outs or reboots so far......i think it was def power issue..... im lucky it didnt fry anything .....

You'll be alright, protect them better with a good UPS that conditions the incoming power also :89-

this is my single surge protector and my 50 year old outlits.....

If you buy a second board you have to get the exact same version.

Yours looks to be the S2000 1270 3 to 5 reel stepper board.
The 501, 502 or 504 will not plug into your machine without you changing the motherboard as well.
The 1270 and 50x series boards use a different back plane or motherboard.

I would carefully remove the cover to the outlet, carefully remove the 2 screws holding the outlet and see if you have ground wire in there.
if you do go to hardware store and buy enough 15Amp outlets and change them.
please de-energize the outlet at the fuse or breaker panel though.

Staz,

I just got a handful of those batteries from Mouser... If you want one, PM me with your name & address details and I will drop one in the mail for you. They are usually impossible to find locally I found out! :25- :30- :8- :37-

Glad that it is working good for you now, and that you made it through the setup with no problems! :244- :244- :244-

CH :95-

Staz, swipe a battery clip off an old comp cpu and get a 3v battery from radio shack for like $3. Also, based on you picture, your surge protector isn't doing you any good because it's not grounded. Turn your plug adapter over and use the screw for the recptacle cover plate to hold it in place and ground it. Otherwise you might as well be use a plain old strip plug

Can he plug it in the bottom socket and use the receptacle screw above the plug?  :129-
Does it matter, I wonder?

Staz, all things considered, don't you think that it might be a good idea to hire an electrician to bring your house up to code? I mean, how much would it cost to get the house properly grounded and everything up to spec? $10k ? Ask yourself how much you've spent on that machine (not to mention the Bally cash wheel) and what you would do if it were damaged by a power surge...  not to mention everything else you own and any machines that you buy in the future.

And pick up a DVM for $30-$50 as others have already said. It's a necessary tool for simple diagnostics when dealing with electronic equipment.

Just my 2 cents.

SF :31-

why do u guys think it can cuase a fire?,i been using these plugs like this for like 30 years lol.....i think its time for me to get an electrician over here...... :103-

Some computer nerd told me one time the best surge protector is a UPS.. if anything comes through the lines it'll eat it for dinner

Doesn't matter which one it's plugged into as long as it's screwed down. And you don't need to rewire the whole house. Back in the day they used metal boxes in the walls and flexible metal conduit inbetween them. so the whole house is grounded right up to the recepticle. Just go to Home Depot or wherever and grab a box of 3 prong receps and start replacing. It's like $5 a piece for however many you need plus about 15 minutes replacement time for each. I've done several of these

ill get an electrician i noticed the downstairs of my house have 3 prongs just the bedrooms are 2 prong, how much can a electrician charge me for a couple outlits cant be much....

$75 to $125 per hour. I'm not kidding. You get the 3 prong recepticles and it' a SIMPLE conversion :89- And like I said, the house is already grounded to them, they just didn't finish with the right receps

You've lived there 30 years and just noticed that?
My goodness gracious!
Make sure they charge you more than $50 total for doing 2 outlets.
However, where you live - it might be more.
By the way, are you sure there's only 2 outlets that room?
You better look behind the chair.. :5-.

Staz, you shove your hands in active slot machines all day, you'll be fine. And your not gonna start a fire!! Only thing you need to watch out for is tripping the circuit breaker to those outlets before you start. I do them live, but me and electricity have an understanding. Also, if you open one up and the wires going into the receps are aluminum then close it back up and call an electrician. Some dumbass back in the day thought it a good idea to pigtail aluminum leads to the copper in the wall to attach to the receps. THIS can get you a fire. I'm a firefighter, electrician and electronics nut so I have respectable knowledge on this stuff, but I know you can do it

its my parents house i never realized these things lol... :97- :97- i def dont wanna fry my tv in my room id cry :37- theres only 2 outlits in my room  :103- one has my machines and the other my tv set up......

ADMIN NOTE: I removed the second TV, well actually just the double posted picture. :97- How big is that monster anyway??? CAPTAINHAPPY :95-

You'll be fine. Use the knowledge you have and the knowledge you've been givin' and get it done :3-

Just bumping for the TV size question as it was already off of the grid when I edited the post.

CH :95-

its a 60inch in my bedroom its kimda to big for the room but i luv it lol..... second day and no errors on my machine , thats a good thing......

Well I thought it was a bit bigger, but it is totally respectable for a bedroom, and I agree with you as I have a 50" Plasma in the bedroom, and it makes it great to relax and watch!

Glad to hear that the slot machine is behaving!!! :244- :88- :89- :71-

CH :95-

What's wrong with you people, I can hardly stay awake sitting on the couch or the recliner watching TV.. all bets are off in the bedroom  :208-

Maybe it is the shows that you are watching??? :208- :208- :208-
Or maybe you just had a deliscious filling meal??? For me full belly means Nappy Nappy Time!!! :208- :208- :208-

I have a good sized bedroom, so the TV is about 20 feet from the head of the bed, so a big TV was justified!! (IN MY MIND AT LEAST!!! :5- :200- :97- ) Plus I put a couch at the foot of the bed and that will help to keep me up, sometimes! :149- :149- :149-

The true justification is when I have my glasses off while in bed.... HEY WAIT, I NEED a bigger TV!!!!!!!!! Then I can see it better!!!! I now have a new Self Justification to enlarge the TV!!!! :39- :39- :39- HEY BUT WAIT...... PROBLEM... I am broke, this economy sucks!!! I guess I will keep falling asleep with my glasses on! :208- :208- :208-

CH :95-

IMO  A bed is only good for two things and one of them ain't watching TV !!!!!!!!!!!   :3- :3- :3- :3-

So the other one is?  :25- :208- :208- :208-

Bill    You have been single for a LONG time !!  I would explain to you the birds and bees, but I would have the NLG,s police force on my butt.  :31- :31- :31-

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 :95-

Ohhhhh, I get it!  The second use for your bed is as a bird's nest full of yellow jackets. :58- :99-  :127- :126-





(btw, you referenced the wrong police force; I corrected it. :96-)

i love how this thread is still alive....lol :97- :72- getten back to slots can someone explain to me what this lock with a key does??????? the wire looks like its conected to the back panel on the mpu....

I'd try turning and see what happens...however, I suspect it's the key to Capt. Happy's bedroom....  :96-

i think it has sutten to do with the software downloaded in the machine i wouldnt take a chance and turn it ......

What game is it?

For those interested.. after some discussion.. I'm pretty sure that's the 2nd jackpot reset key that adds taxable jackpots or hits over the set jackpot limit to the credit meter after the tax forms have been filled out.

that be cool to be able to transfer  the hand pay wins  over to the meter after a jackpot.... less money i gotta feed it.... :97-

If you set the Credit and Win limits to $100,000 you don't have to worry about it anyways
I would set the Hopper limit way lower like equal to 200 or 300 times your coin denomination.
Example quarter machine set it the hopper limit to $50 or $75 thats 200 or 300 coins.

I would hate to see you having to refill the hopper if you happen to cash out quarter machine and there is over $1000.00(4000 credits) on it, like $10,000 or such.
You would be doing it for hours.

the whole fun part is hearing the  jackpot music go off lol

Mine plays the roll up music while its adding the win to the credits.
The S2000 is not much faster at counting them than a newer S+ SP chip
I think that is so the eye in the sky can see it.

It still locks up on hand pays ($1200 Rule) and his denom is $25, $50 and $100

If it is for home use no need for it do that.
I would key chip and change that setting.
I had to keep a lower setting on a S+ like 1500 credits or its a hand pay doubt it would have mattered but I didnt want a progressive win triggering the hopper.

You guys are slipping...Lemme draw you a map:

So, if one of the 2 good uses is not watching TV, then the other good  use IS watching TV?  :103-



And BTW, there's a difference between single and celibate...  :88-

My marriage cost me so much money, my next SO will need to have a sanity certification signed by a psychiatrist and make more money than me. :96-