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loprado
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« on: September 26, 2011, 03:54:41 AM »

Hi guys,
Purchased my second aristocrat machine a few weeks ago (have an enchanted forest MKIV)  Tongue Out
I have never seen a machine like this though....
It has 2 buttons (Play1 and Play2). The graphics on the machine say 'winning ways', however the chips say 'lucky numbers'
It fires up OK, robot test is all good, can reset, etc, yet it is coming up with a 'Tilt' message and Printer Fault message.

I beleive these machines didn't have a 'tilt' function as such, yet when a piece of hardware fails it comes up with aTilt message. (although I may be wrong!)
The printer is obviously not preset...is there any way around the printer issue?
Also what is surprising is that there is no Collect button?!?!?!

Attached are some pics....
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!
Alex



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loprado
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2011, 03:56:04 AM »

...and other pics...


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loprado
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 02:09:28 AM »

*Anyone help please!*

Or put me in contact with someone in Australia I can chase.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 02:45:50 AM »

palindrome is the Aristocrat man here
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2011, 10:11:05 AM »

Need more info.  Is the printer connected ? It should be connected via 2 ribbon cables.

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loprado
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 04:51:05 AM »

Hey Palindrome, thanks for the reply.
Sorry there was a typo in my post, I meant to say the printer is not present!
So no there is no printer.

There are two ribbon cables (16pin and 34 pin) from the board. I was thinking there could be some way fooling it to believe there is a printer there, or I thought on the MKIV DIP switches there are option to turn either the hopper or printer connection on or off?

Or do I just need to source a printer and cross my fingers?
Thanks
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2011, 05:23:07 AM »

We achieve a similar thing in MAME because the driver does not support a printer so we have to fool it.

The hack involves manipulating various signals ( PTRTAC , PTRHOM and the printer motor ). All of which can be found in the MarkIV schematic.
It still comes up with a printer fault whenever the printer is in use but the hack does the job.

It would be much easier for you to purchase a printer. But if someone has a hardware solution it would be great to hear about it
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 10:53:52 AM »

Winning Ways was just the artwork used for a generic random number game (Lucky Numbers). Bingo venues in Victoria (probably elsewhere too) used to have these machines back in the early 1990s, and they were all 50 cent machines (but they only took $1 coins and only printed tickets, no coins out).

Most venues had two variants of the exact same game; the other artwork was called 'Action Packed', and just about every place fiddled with the background colour DIPs so the handful of machines looked slightly different). Only one venue had the 'new' version (Aristocrat 1993) as pictured here, but most of the games had a scratch ticket style display (1986 Ainsworth Nominees P.L.) and a solid background.

The 'tilt' error is just a generic message displayed on all MK2.5 and MK4 machines, it has nothing to do with a physical tilt mechanism (there isn't one). Open up the main door, TILT will be displayed; power up the game, TILT will be displayed etc. The message only goes off after you take the game out of audit, however you will most likely need a printer set up for this machine.

Thanks for the photos, it has been a very long time since I have seen one of these machines. Good luck with it and I hope you can eventually snap up a 1234 win for us!
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loprado
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 10:11:48 PM »

Hi Heihachi. great info thanks so much!
I had some info that suggested the Tilt message was just a generic message.

The other thing I wondered was what was the aim of the game! I guess certain sequence of numbers pay out better? You mention 1234, is this the top prize? Also what is the relevance of having two play lines.....

I guess the 'simplest' thing would be to try to source the correct printer,
any ideas where to start anyone?

Thanks guys, much appreciated.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 02:59:12 AM »

You would have to order a complete unit from one the gaming suppliers in the U.S.  The printer consists of various components such as the interface board ( not just the printer itself )
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2011, 01:26:49 PM »

The Lucky Numbers paytable used to be on the right hand side of the machine, at least on the MK2.5 cabinets with the small monitor.

From memory, the payout chart should be:
1234 - 300
2345 - 200
*777 - 100
*999 - 50
**11 - 10
**33 - 4
**55 - 4
**66 - 4
***8 - 2

The asterisk means any number can appear here (e.g. 0999, 1999, 2999). The highest number on the game was 3000, but I can't remember if it issued 0000 as a valid number or not (the lowest number may have been 0001). The earlier 1986 'Ainsworth Nominees' version didn't show leading zeroes.

The second payline isn't necessary, it's just a faster way of betting (e.g. the higher bet doesn't multiply wins or create a bonus payout for the top prize, unlike some slots and video poker).

Tickets were printed for all games played, even losing games (which would display NO WIN - BAD LUCK at the bottom of the ticket). Winning tickets were roughly twice the size of losing tickets, as they showed the win amounts and probably accounting/machine data. I used to have a stack of losing tickets from these machines back in the mid 1990s, but I think they are long gone now.

Edit: Regarding the lack of a collect button, while it was unusual in a slots environment, many lower bet gaming machines didn't require a collect button since every win was paid out via cash tickets, and due to the denomination/credits per coin (the machines I saw never had note acceptors, and most people only put 1-2 coins in at a time).
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loprado
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2011, 11:24:57 PM »

Hi guys,
If I was to source a printer, what exactly should I be looking for.
(Certain model number, etc...)
Can anyone let me have the details of a supplier I could deal with?

Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 11:01:41 PM »

Straight from the manual.

Try emailing worldwide-gaming.com. Good luck.


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