Bally Identification Help

[quasimodem]

I am curious about this machine and was wondering from just this picture (that's all the information I have currently) if anyone can identify this bally model number and or value it?

TIA

QM

*edit*
i realize the picture is very small, what i know about the machine is it's an SBA machine, all payouts are done by the machine, and that's it.
hopefully one of you guru's has seen this and knows the model number.

QM

[StatFreak]

That is a 25¢ 742A Money Honey that has been modified to take new dollars and no longer has its original belly glass.

IMHO, those modifications lower the value. I'll leave it to the EM dealers to fix a price.


StatFreak

[Op-Bell]

Agreed, 742A, or at least the case is. I like the Bally bar reel strips, those are pretty unusual and suggests this is quite an early one. What are the hinges like inside the main door - are they simple pin hinges, or are they made of half a dozen parallel plates?

[StatFreak]

Agreed, 742A, or at least the case is. I like the Bally bar reel strips, those are pretty unusual and suggests this is quite an early one. ...

Hmm. That section that I can see looks exactly like my Money Honey strips.

[Op-Bell]

Yes but some time before 1970 they changed it to just say "BAR". Personally I think the "BALLY is much more attractive.

[StatFreak]

Yes but some time before 1970 they changed it to just say "BAR". Personally I think the "BALLY is much more attractive.

I agree.    I also prefer the thinner, more subtle white border around the symbols as compared with the newer strips. My stars are overlays on different symbols on each reel (lemon, orange, and the Bally bar, respectively.)

I already know that my topper is a repro based on your previous help. The red is too bright and not maroon.


<ADD> I'm being a bad boy and hijacking the OP's thread.    Quasimodem, jump back in at any time with the information that Op-Bell requested.


Op-Bell, as long as I've got your ear, each of my hinges are actually seven interleaved stacked plates: four to the door and three to the machine.

[Op-Bell]

They introduced that hinge when they started lining the wooden cabinets with steel for better security. Early machines like mine had no steel liner and simple pin hinges. They were much lighter. Since Bally spent the first four years of the EM age air-freighting most of their production to the British market, that was probably important.

Mine is also 20 stops - most Ballys are 22. How many stops on yours?

[StatFreak]

20.

The tag on the machine actually reads 742, not 742A, and the date of mfg is 8/6/67. It has a small hopper with a Wiffle ball float diverter that holds about 400-600 quarters, max. My newer 1090 JPO has the single pin hinges, 25 stops, and a large hopper that uses the weight based overflow with an adjustable tension spring and a micro-switch. I had it set to about 1200 quarters but it could hold more. Despite the seemingly primitive spring weight design, it is remarkably accurate – usually to within 20 coins or less!* (Yes, I checked, and yes, I'm a compulsive nerd. )

Since my belly and reel glass match the original seen on the first page of the small EM catalog (gold/silver long, thin diamonds with two "150 coin" windows), I assume them to be reproductions. What's odd, though, is that the "white" paper behind the belly glass which supposedly replaced the fake pictures of coins is, in fact, a Mills paytable sheet (I think it's Mills). I noticed it when I shone a flashlight though the paper.


* As long as the coins fill the hopper and are paid out during the natural course of play, as opposed to filling the hopper manually.

[Op-Bell]

If your belly glass was original with the machine, I think you'd have a "white sides" and it might be 110V. I've only ever seen one of those, it used to stand in the reception area at the Bally factory on Bermuda Ave., but it's been gone a few years now. No white sides, it's almost certainly a repro. I have a 1972 Bally with a wiffle ball hopper. My old machine never had one, it had a cutout at the back of the bucket that coins would fall through onto a conveyer belt called the "coin scavenger" and be transported to a cash box.

[StatFreak]

It's most definitely a 50v machine with standard wood grain. The belly glass, reel glass and the strips do look exactly like the picture of the white sided machine, though, as does the topper, which we determined to be a repro a long time ago. Most of the MHs I see don't have the same style reel glass and don't have the stars and lemons set up the same way.

Actually, I feel better that it's not an original because it was my first machine, and being a complete n00b. I put a Letraset sign on the belly glass for a trip seven payout and put water activated decal sevens over a non-winning combination on the strips.

The sevens would no doubt come off of the strips easily if soaked in drops of water for a while (while positioned at the top of the reel), but while I had originally wanted the Letraset sheet to be easily removed, it ended up being much more permanently stuck than I ever intended.   I'm torn because I did a good job making the sign and it took time to make (each letter had to be individually hand placed), and I'd have to destroy it to get it off now. In addition, I'm not sure how to remove it without scratching the glass. I don't think acetone affects it. It's been on there for    ... okay, I'll confess: 16 years.   I tried chipping away at a corner once and it wouldn't budge.

P.S. I wonder how many members even remember Letraset? I wonder if I'm even spelling it correctly?

[Op-Bell]

I remember Letraset and used it a lot to make equipment front panels. I was quite upset to find I couldn't get it any more. Nothing else does the job quite so well.

[mark the spark]

funny most recent bally purchase the lady had lost the keys i had to carry it out of her shed!!!!
i thought at the time this is ****in heavy and now i no why

[rdaniel]

For those who are interested, that 742A dollar money honey is up for auction at the Victorian Casino Antique Auction in Las Vegas.

[Op-Bell]

That would be a good place to buy it then, if you want to pay four times market price and Nevada sales tax on top.

[StatFreak]

That would be a good place to buy it then, if you want to pay four times market price and Nevada sales tax on top.

Sounds like a good place to sell machines, though!