Bally E 1214 HELP

[mantaramian]

Any sugestions?

I have a Ballly E 1214 that use to work, it was one of those things that you get a little tired of playing cause you get another machine.

So over this weekend I had a party amongst friends and plugged in my Bally slot machine. I thought all was well because of the 1 in win meter. After I dropped in a coin to pull the arm the coin went straight threw to the coin tray.

So today I spent about 3 hours trying to determine what the hell is wrong with this thing.

In the past I worked on this type of machine I pulled out the battery because I had no interest in the book keeping. However, it did nothing to resolve any problems I am encountering.

The buttons in the hopper do next to nothing as far as I can tell.

I have pulled all Header pin connectors, ribbon connectors and the RAM Board off to examine them with no evidence of any corrosion, I removed the Logic Board and re seated each and every socket that was occupied, I have checked all fuses with a DMM.

When I press the Reset button to get the Reels to lock in place with no luck....

Where do I go from here?

Thanks in advance.....

[mantaramian]

Here are another set of pictures

[mantaramian]

Another set of pictures of the circuit board

[mantaramian]

And the last one of the hopper controller board (top view)

[Neonkiss]

First thing I would do is remove that lithium battery.
It does not belong in a Bally E series machine. They used a Nicad battery as it recieves a charge from the machine.

Next after in stalling the correct batttery, I would check the voltages at the power supply.

[mantaramian]

Thank you for the input on the battery, I will go get a Ni-Cad 3.6 Volt Battery today @ Batteries Plus.

After I removed the Lithium Battery I checked All my voltages on the test points on the Power Supply and I/O Board. Do I have to have the battery replaced before the machine will function? And are there any other procedures for clearing the memory (RAM)

Power Supply
TP 1 +5volts
TP 2 +7volts
TP 3 +9volts

I/O Board
TP +5volts

[Amachanic]

I would remove the hopper board and check CR1 and CR2 diodes. If your board has the original ones then are a greyish color and round. I have found them cracked in the middle. The other thing I would look at is the soldering on the back of your power supply board for the pins to the plug. They crack and can cause your voltages to drop off. Your 7.5 and 10V are a bit low but still ok.. What does your plug for the power supply look like? They have been knowen to get hot and burn connections.

[Jim]

do you get any numbers in the display?   usually when the reset buttons have no effect, its generally means that the cpu is not running, and with the type of board you have, I would suspect that ram piggy back board as your problem.
 
they were known for very intermittent operation,  take something non conductive and place it between the machine cabinet and the back of the mpu board. (usually a legal pad works)  then start pressing and wiggling the ram piggyback board around and see if you can get some numbers up on the display. a lot of times it will get the machine running again.  then you have to figure out how to clean of get a good connection on all of the pins.

hope this helps

Jim

[Neonkiss]

do you get any numbers in the display?   usually when the reset buttons have no effect, its generally means that the cpu is not running, and with the type of board you have, I would suspect that ram piggy back board as your problem.
 
they were known for very intermittent operation,  take something non conductive and place it between the machine cabinet and the back of the mpu board. (usually a legal pad works)  then start pressing and wiggling the ram piggyback board around and see if you can get some numbers up on the display. a lot of times it will get the machine running again.  then you have to figure out how to clean of get a good connection on all of the pins.

hope this helps

Jim

Many times the connectors on the RAM board break internally.

[mantaramian]

Again, thank you for all suggestions.

After a few errands I forgot the battery

1st. Is the battery necessary for the game to function?

2nd. I can press the reset button multiple times and get random numbers to show on the Win Meter. (according to the Bally E Series Manual Power Up Malfunctions)

3rd. I will re-flow all headers to make sure there are no bad solder connections.

4th. The hopper board only has 1 Diode (if that makes a difference)

[Jim]

I have seen them work without the battery,  battery was present, but would not hold a voltage.

yes, random numbers, cpu still not running, or else you would be able to communicate with it via the test button.

the problem is with the connector on the ram board,  the way it mates with the pin on the cpu board,

 yes one diode, two relays,  e-1000 series machines   had a different type board than the e-2000 series machines.

try what I suggested, your machine was working ,so it has to be something easy,


Jim

[mantaramian]

Thanks Jim,

How right you were..... The RAM Board had a couple broken connectors that I jumper-ed, I put it back together and Walla it is fully functioning.....

Thank you everybody.

    

I tried to post pics but the site will not let me??? I have had this problem before....

[Amachanic]

I had a problem with pics here before too. The problem was I needed to lower my cameras pixel settings. Try that and see if it helps. Glad to hear you got your machine working. I just learned something new myself. K+ to Jim for his fix.

Gary

[mantaramian]

Well I tried to resize to MED with no luck

Both files were a total of 465K and both are .JPG files.........

[Amachanic]

Hmm?? Not sure myself now   maybe someone else can help...

[CaptainHappy]

Well I tried to resize to MED with no luck

Both files were a total of 465K and both are .JPG files.........

Are you trying to upload them from a cell phone by chance? In the past I had problems uploading pictures from a cell phone and had to email the pictures to my PC and then upload them to this site from the PC. That was a while back, but I thought it would be worth mentioning. It was a problem with the cell phone software as it works fine now for me. Those pictures should be able to upload fine on the site.

CaptainHappy

[mantaramian]

I never tried uploading with my phone, I have been trying with my Desktop PC.

I am going to try with my Notebook PC instead

No luck with either PC...... It really strange. I select the 2 files, click the post and the first file name disappears and then I cant even change any of my message. I have to copy what I have already typed and then go back to the message and re-post.....