Convert WBA 11 to 13?

[tacman]

storeytime

   Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« on: March 27, 2008, 06:17:07 PM »   

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Is it possible to convert a WBA 11 to WBA 13?
 
 
Blueridgeslots

   Re: Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 06:25:32 PM »   

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Yes, what make and model machine?
 
 
storeytime

   Re: Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 07:34:08 PM »   

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VLC 8828
 
 
hoppy

   Re: Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 12:58:42 AM »   

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someone is selling up to 100 WBA SS13 bill validatiors on ebay at the moment    Item number: 300231204161
 
 
Jay

   Re: Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 09:10:29 AM »   

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These look like an awsome price at $24 right now....

The picture however is just a head. Its my understanding that the head is identical between 11 - 13.... and that the intelligence lives in the transport.

While these do say complete - I don't see a picture of the transport.

My recommendation is that if someone is getting serious about these that they ask the seller a question.....
 
 
Op-Bell

   Re: Convert WBA11 to WBA 13
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 10:01:21 AM »   

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That EBAY item counts as a head and transport - the rest is just the frame. The head is the removable block with the sensors, the transport is the bit with the motors and control board. It's a very good price.

These particular EBAY items are probably pulled from Aristocrat 540 machines - they have a special serial interface board and bezel that is only used in Aristocrat and Konami slots. You can see the green interface board in the side of the transport. This board also makes them run off 24V instead of the usual 12V. So they're not a plug-in replacement for most types of game, particularly not IGTs. If you pull off the interface board they're completely standard and can be used in any machine, but you would need to obtain the standard internal harness to finish the job. You can use the control board in the bottom to convert a WBA11 to a WBA13, but you would still need the harness because the connectors on the board are different from the WBA11. You can use a WBA13 in a game designed for WBA11 and then you would need a different internal harness, one that goes from the 20 pin connector on the WBA13-style control board to a WBA11-style 12 pin connector on the back. JCM makes both types.
 
 
 

[JCM Tech]

To update a WBA 10 / 11 to a 12/ 13, you need to change the CPU board and the harnessing. The 10/11 uses a 12 pin JAE connector and the 12/13 use a 20 pin. These upgrades are sold as a kit that includes the CPU, a new stacker harness and a new machine side harness. The rest of the components remain the same. The 1x series (10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15) are used in the US, Japan and Australia. These have 3 Mag heads because those countries use Magnetic inks as a counterfeit deterrent. The rest of the world, uses very intricate pictures and different colors as their protection, so the 2x series (20,21,22,23,24 and 25) Have an optically enhanced head. Still retaining one mag head, but adding 5 more optical sensors to pick up these features.
The Machine doesn't care which model you use because the communications are the same.

[Xaiver]

@ JCM TECH  Where can i purchase "These upgrades are sold as a kit that includes the CPU, a new stacker harness and a new machine side harness." thanks in advanced.

[JCM Tech]

Any of our distributors should be able to order these for you. I see you are from Florida so that would be,

Global Casino Supply
1301 Fillmore Street
Hollywood, FL 33019
United States
Tel: 954-925-3004 (Dave Myzel)
Fax: 954-925-3007
Email: globalcasinosupply@earthlink.net


I have attached a tech bulletin with the part numbers for various games

[blueridgeslots]

If you found out that the List price from JCM Distributors is $300 for the IGT kit and looking for a better deal, I know a place that has the IGT WBA-13 Kit for 30% of that, and the WBA-12 IGT kit for $65, WMS WBA-12 kit for $75, Kit includes Board, BV Harness, Game Harness Pigtail