Vision Double Diamond Mind ERROR

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  Had a EEPROM error installed ram/eeprom clear chip  right light stayed on (1-megabyte RAM good) left light flashing( 512-byte EEPROM good) turned power off
removed clear reinstalled base chip now says . RAM ERROR. Top screen truns red reads ERROR some required components not found. Replaced with good board installed
game, base, chips from board to good board left ram chips on good board installed in machine. Did Ram clear have same thing . Maybe bad base or game chips ?????????
  .......Ron        (SLOTS OF FUN)

[a69mopar]

sounds like it.  the sb chip is pretty durable and can withstand being inserted backwards, not sure about the gme chips.

Thanks,
Wayne

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Had a EEPROM error installed ram/eeprom clear chip  right light stayed on (1-megabyte RAM good) left light flashing( 512-byte EEPROM good) turned power off
removed clear reinstalled base chip now says . RAM ERROR. Top screen truns red reads ERROR some required components not found. Replaced with good board installed
game, base, chips from board to good board left ram chips on good board installed in machine. Did Ram clear have same thing . Maybe bad base or game chips ?????????
  .......Ron        (SLOTS OF FUN)

Ron...
When did you get this error? are you changing the game?


Kirk

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Kirk:  Thanks for the reply No when i got the machine it had the EEPROM error i cleared that . I have never seen it work . Was going to check the game and base chip checksum and go from there . Thanks ......... Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)

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Kirk:  Thanks for the reply No when i got the machine it had the EEPROM error i cleared that . I have never seen it work . Was going to check the game and base chip checksum and go from there . Thanks ......... Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)

Check the Flash card in the Vision display and make sure it still as the ATA and BGM files in it (they crap out)
The red screen and the message that stuff is missing is usually the flash card.No worries, there is a easy work-a-round for that.
Can you key off the EEPROM errors? They should come up (with the "Siren" noise) if you turn the key it should clear,then ask you to press the test button for 3 seconds...


Kirk

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Update checked the chip # on all chips on board the virsion chip seams to be the wrong one .The virsion chip i have is a VS011GX0 I FOUND IT GOES TO A RTS Megajackpot . from what i can find i need version chip #VS008SX0 for the  DBL Diamond Mind . Right or Wrong thanks for the help.....Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

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Update checked the chip # on all chips on board the virsion chip seams to be the wrong one .The virsion chip i have is a VS011GX0 I FOUND IT GOES TO A RTS Megajackpot . from what i can find i need version chip #VS008SX0 for the  DBL Diamond Mind . Right or Wrong thanks for the help.....Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

Thats one of the latest "Version" chips...it's OK in that board. thats not the problem.
The EEPROM error is normal after a clear. Does it go away after you turn the key with the door open?
This error should appear TWICE then the machine shouls tell you to push the white button for 2-3 seconds.
Does it do this? the red screen in the vision is another caper..have to get the MPU going first before trying to
get the display working.
The Red screen and "Things missing" is USUALLY the flash card has barfed up it's files and the display cant boot
it's program. You need to get the main board to boot and wait at "MS START", then deal with the topbox.
"Visions" are a weird bird..but you can master them.
If the "Flash Card" in the topbox did indeed crap out, you can use a 64Meg "CF" card and a CF to PCMCIA adaptor (I have done this more than once)
If your display has a 20 Meg flash card in the side socket, it's basically worthless, the machine DOES NOT need it to run,remove it for now.
Take the 64 Meg flash and insert it in a laptop with a PCMCIA slot. use windows explorer to look at it and see if the ATA and BGM files are there.
* COPY THESE FILES TO YOUR LAPTOP * use this as a archive. If the card is dead or corrupt you will need to get a new copy of the ATA and BGM files before the topbox will run.


Kirk

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Kirk: Was able to key switch the eeprom error away and push and hold for 2 to 3 sec .  would some one have a psr sheet for a SB000008 DBL Diamond Mine .When checking the check sum of the game chips GME1 SG000341 the check sum= CBAD on GME2 SG000341 the check sum=59cc . I think my reader might be telling me GME1 is bad . Would you know the check sum for that chip. After clearing eeprom error get the RAM error .  thanks Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)   

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Kirk: Was able to key switch the eeprom error away and push and hold for 2 to 3 sec .  would some one have a psr sheet for a SB000008 DBL Diamond Mine .When checking the check sum of the game chips GME1 SG000341 the check sum= CBAD on GME2 SG000341 the check sum=59cc . I think my reader might be telling me GME1 is bad . Would you know the check sum for that chip. After clearing eeprom error get the RAM error .  thanks Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)   

Ron,
I will see if I have SG000341 here and load it into the programmer to see the checksum.....


Kirk

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Checked the flash card 64mb has 3 folders in it ATA 10065 , BMG 00064 , DATA. Was able to play sound files and see paint files . Thanks . Ron  (SLOTS OF FUN)   

[KirkLasVegas]

Checked the flash card 64mb has 3 folders in it ATA 10065 , BMG 00064 , DATA. Was able to play sound files and see paint files . Thanks . Ron  (SLOTS OF FUN)   

Flash card is probably good, make sure to archive those! The ATA10065 is the right ATA, also one of the latest.


Kirk

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Kirk: At the Ram Error with door open turned the key switch it read( game eprom crc mismatch-0XB000001) turned key (Non-Recoverable Data Error) turned key (Some critical data will be lost) turned key (press test 2-3 seconds) then(Please close the main door ) closed door then back to the EEPROM ERROR     Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

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Kirk: At the Ram Error with door open turned the key switch it read( game eprom crc mismatch-0XB000001) turned key (Non-Recoverable Data Error) turned key (Some critical data will be lost) turned key (press test 2-3 seconds) then(Please close the main door ) closed door then back to the EEPROM ERROR     Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

That sounds like a bad GME to me also......


Kirk

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Similar Situation:

I've been trying to convert to a Diamond Mine off and on for a few weeks.

Another contributor and I have been exchanging ideas as to why this game is not working in my machine.  Any fresh perspectives are greatly appreciated.  I will try to provide as much info as possible.
My Vision was manufactured in 12/07, Serial # 879748, Model # 96418800.
It was equipped with a Double Double Diamond game with the following chips;
EEPROM Version: S Plus Reel, Mech SS6203, 1/19/95, IGT MS (120NS)  (It is possible the chip had not been relabeled??)
Game 1 and Game 2 Chips are marked the same: SG000004
Unfortunately the longest chip does not have a number on it, it is just marked Double Double Diamond and I do not have a burner or reader.
The back of the LCD is stamped:  11/97 REV EA - SUSA62622500

Here is what I did and the results:

1. Removed all old game chips & BOTH flashcards.  Inserted ONE new flashcard in the top LCD slot.
2. Inserted Key 31 (I also did this with a 97 chip at a later time), powered on, received 2 yellow lights, powered off.
3. Removed Key 31 & inserted all 4 new game chips and the flashcard in the top slot.
4. Power on, door open, RAM error, Turned Key.
5. "Game EEPROM CRC Mismatch, 0xb000001", LCD says, "Some Required Components are not found". - Turned Key
6. "Non Recoverable Data Error" - Turned Key
7. "Some Critical Data Will Be Lost", Turned Key
8. "Press test switch for 2-3 seconds", Pressed switch.
9. "Close the main door", closed door.
10. "Initializing, testing memory, NETPLEX Auto Config in progress, Call Attendant"

At this point the machine was not doing anything.

11. I opened the door and received message, "EEPROM ERROR", I turned the key.
12. "Data ID Mismatch error - 0X2", I turned the key.
13. "Some critical data may be lost", I turned the key.
14. "Please wait, Testing memory, waiting for video display"
15. Lower display say's, "MS Verify - COMM Error"
16. LCD display's, "Error, some required components are not found". This message did not change the entire time.

Machine was idle with messages 15 and 16.

I tried many different combinations of chips, swapped flashcard position’s, original game chips with new Version chip and the following combination resulted in the “Mine� being displayed on the LCD and a “Protocol Mismatch� message:

One of the original flashcards in the SIDE LCD slot and with Version S Plus Reel, Mech SS6203, 1/19/95, IGT MS (120NS) chip in the slot ABOVE where the Version chip usually goes (this is where the chip was located in DD Diamond), the new Version chip in the normal slot, Game 1 & 2 in their required slots, and the Diamond Mine chip in its required slot.
The Diamond Mine chip numbers are: SB000253, Game 1 & 2 are 248, and the version is VS0096X0.

The files on the Diamond Mine flashcard are:
ATA10065
BGM0000
BGM00064
DATA

I probably tried some stupid things being new to Visions, but I’m determined to get this working.  There only seems to be one (big) ill effect when I changed the game back to the Double Double Diamond – I no longer have any options setting the game percentages – all are gone.

This is a good learning experience but I must be doing something wrong, the game is not compatible with the machine, or there are corrupt files but I’m assured the game was working properly.

Anyway, one thought was that the RFA file of the LCD needed to be updated.

Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas, and instruction would be most helpful.

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Sound like you have the same thing going on i been waiting for new clear chips . Mine will not light the 2 leds only 1st will come on the 2nd will only flash .You can install
the flash card in a PCMCIA slot in a laptop and see if all the files are there you should be able to here the sound files and see the image files .
My flash card has 3 folders. ATA10065,BMG00064,DATA. The chip # are VERSION VS011GX0,BASE SB000008,GME1 SG000341,GME2 SG000341 Thanks ............Ron
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[mah]

What clear chip are you waiting for?  I tried both a 31 and did a 97 ram clear without success?  It was suggested I try a 21 clear.  I think I have that but have not tried it yet.

My kit is a five coin kit which might explain the different game #.

I did view the files on the card of course I have no way of knowing if all the files are there but again i was assured everything was working and i have no reason to dought.

I need to look what file's are in the 4th directory on the PCMCIA card I have and you don't.  Directory # BGM0000.

Mike

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I was told to use the 97 clear chip . The key chip is for key chip menu to change key menu options only not to clear eeprom Or Ram...........Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)

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You are almost there if you got the "MINE" to be displayed. Dont know about the protocol error .......Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

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Swaped chips from one board to a 100% good board same thing 1st led will come on 2nd will only flash when trying to clear. Installed clear chip in working Racing 7s
vision machine and 1st & 2nd led lite up and cleared just fine .......... Ron.(SLOTS OF FUN) 

[mah]

I tried switching monitors I have from another vision on the assumption the RFA file in the other monitor was newer, went through the game change procedure, and got a "Machine Type Mismatch" error.
My machine might not be a true "Vision" machine.  Did not have a bonus game per say, had a choice between Times Pay, Rising Temp, and Mystery Bonus as the bonus choices on the LCD.
Still trying to figure it out.

Being new to visions, I'm affraid I can't offer any advice on your LED situation.  Maybe the manual would explain what this means.

Mike 

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I think one of the GME chips are bad on my machine when i put it in my programmer the checksum reads CBAD . Have new chips on the way. Ron (SLOTS OF FUN)
   

[brichter]

Hmm, CBAD could be a valid checksum...

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Could be will check a new chip when i get it unless some one could read one and let me know GME1 SG000341 1 of 2 . Thanks ......Ron (SLOTS OF FUN) 

[brichter]

Me no have checksum for the 341, sorry.