Sleepy Bally S6000

[Bettor Slots]

Okay...maybe not sleepy....but at times it seems lazy.  

Have a Bally S6000 Musical Cherries (pic below) that at times has a delay between spins.  After the completion of a spin...it will take a full 2 seconds before it will pay out the win, or in cases where there is no winning pay, still takes a full 2 seconds before the spin button illuminates so that a new bet can be made.

Notes:

This does not occur at all times.  When the machine is first turned on, the machine plays at a normal speed.  It seems that if credits are left on the machine over night and you return to play then the delay occurs....this is not always the result...but maybe half the time.

If you play the machine with the delay...it seems to slowly improve and go back to normal speed after about 15 minutes of play.

When the delay occurs, if you turn the machine off and then back on again, there is no delay anymore...it plays at normal speed.

The battery is new.

The chips are original, so I don't believe chip speed is the problem.


Appreciate your thoughts.

[KirkLasVegas]

I have one of these too, but never noticed the mentioned "delay".....


Kirk

[stayouttadabunker]

It sounds like a component switch on the board is getting
stuck or slow to switch like a overworked triac or solid state relay.
Trying to determine which component is doing this is difficult without
complete knowledge of which components are doing the switching
to pass along logic pulses to other components.
Knowing exactly how to test individual board components is something
that a person like Channelmaniac might have better understanding of...

When you play it for awhile, it seems to go away...
certain capacitors store residual electrical power that has been "bled" off from switchers,
a bad capacitor that is having trouble acceptor "bleed off" will make switching diodes slow too,
playing the machine kicks "life" into these components and things run smoother again.

Another thing, cold-solder joints will contribute to components acting intermittently as well.
Once, without having any real knowledge of a coin-in optics board,
I reheated up every major component solder point and
the coin-in optic came back to life like it was new!
Heating up the correct solder joints,  was of course - way lucky on my part...

[reho33]

At this point, if you have access to another board, try that. The board might have cold or weak joints like Bunco said. Of course the new style solder being sold now is crap compared to the old-fashioned 60 tin 40 lead.

[Bettor Slots]

Thanks for the input guys.  Basically what I am hearing here is that I can spend a few hours playing around with the board with only a 25% chance of good results, or, for what they cost, just toss it and put in a new board?

[stayouttadabunker]

I'd play with it until it it gets stuck to the point of throwing it out...
but it's always good to have a spare for it.
Unless you can get your hands on a board schematics and try to decipher
what particular line of components run the spin button light after a completed game.
Something's in a sort of "freeze" mode after a completed game.
I don't know precisely what's causing that though...
It could be one simple thing right in front of you but what - I don't know.

As a machine dealer, I'd start looking for another board to throw in and if the machine sells -
then you'll have a peace of mind knowing you did all you could for that machine and you
probably won't get any phone calls asking why my machine is frozen up...lol
The addition of a new board should be added to the sale price however.
You shouldn't get stuck paying for the excellent preventative care you took for this machine.

[Jim]

As with troubleshooting any  electronics  equipment, first verify the power supply is good, especially with Bally machines, that was the weakest link in their Pro Series line and it seems to have followed onto the 6000 series, only a few tenths of a voltage swing on the 5vdc line can cause  all kind of goofy things to happen. At least they provided test points on the backplane board to make it easier to monitor the voltages.

This is just a suggestion, and if nothing else, it eliminates one less thing that is causing the problem.


Jim 

[Bettor Slots]

Thanks Jim...I will try swapping out the power supply and test the results.

PS ~ Good to see you ...been a while.

Jim