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« Reply #50 on: May 30, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »

Reply #6 in this thread has pictures or the WBA connections. If you click on the picture, it should open up large enough to see where the wires would go.
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« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2011, 04:10:36 PM »

Thanks poppo,

i have just looked to #6. But to be honest i cant figure out the wiring. I guess on the pictures there is a IGT S2000 machine? Mine is a Bally S9000; could it be different there? I have seen on the pictures there are 4 cables coming from the bezel; at my bezel there are only 3 cables. Is there something missing?

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« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2011, 04:26:49 PM »

Hmmm....even the DBV model bezels have 4 wires. Not sure about a Bally setup. I'm sure someone will be able to help though. May have better luck asking in the Bally or DBV areas since not eveyone who knows may be looking at this tread.
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« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2011, 04:46:32 PM »

Ok, i will try this. Thanks for your help. applause
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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2011, 11:53:16 AM »

...couldn´t somebody tell me how to connect this bezel to a WBA-Bill Validator?  Scratch Head

I have a circuit diagram of the BV; but didn´t know where to connect the 3 wires from the sentry bezel. Please help ...  Thanks a lot  applause 
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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2011, 12:50:41 PM »

Is there a 3 wire connector that is not being used coming out of the back of your bill acceptor?
See if your bezel will plug into it?
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2011, 01:47:11 PM »

Is there a 3 wire connector that is not being used coming out of the back of you bill acceptor?
See if your bezel will plug into it?

His sentry bezel wires are cut, so there is no pigtail. He needs to know how to splice it into his bally wires.
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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2011, 02:49:00 PM »

Hello guys,

thanks for your help. There is only a 4 wire connector coming out of the back from my BV which is not used. I have looked in the circuit of the BV; i guess the connections are "LED+ / LED- / NC / NC". I´am pretty sure, they are not the ones i could use. There are 3 wires that come out from the sentry bezel and i need to know where to connect them to the WBA / the machine connector like poppo says. 
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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2011, 03:08:48 PM »

At a minimum the sentry needs +v, gnd, and a data line since it needs to know what denomination to light up. It's not just an on/off light like a normal bezel.
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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2011, 03:31:36 PM »

Poppo, thats what i have supposed too. One wire is GND, the other +12 volts (?) and the other is the "Data Line". I have thought over to try the following: Connecting the bezel to GND / + 12 volts and the data cable to "TX" (the data output of the BV). What do you mean? Do you know, what cable of the Sentry Bezel is GND, +12 volts and Data? Thanks a lot applause   
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« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2011, 03:43:25 PM »

It looks like the red is +12v, black is ground, and brown is data.

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« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2011, 03:53:25 PM »

I think you are right...i guess i will try it that way. Is it the same cabling at your machine?
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« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2011, 04:00:33 PM »

On a S+ connected to a DVB-200, the wires are like below.  The orange wire corresponds to your brown wire coming from the sentry.


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« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2011, 04:03:51 PM »

<edit> Oops, wrong picture in this post. Was not for a WBA
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« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2011, 04:34:44 PM »

So,the orange wire is "data" which is the brown at my bezel? Could you send me the pin-out overview like the one for the dvb for the wba to me please? :-)
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« Reply #65 on: June 03, 2011, 05:24:43 PM »

I don't have any WBA info. Maybe someone else does.
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« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2011, 05:30:34 PM »

Ok,no problem...i will try it the way we discussed...and will let you know if it works...thanks a lot for your help.
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« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2011, 06:13:17 PM »

I have a WBA version at home that I haven't yet put into my machine -- I'd be happy to take a picture of the connector if that would help.
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« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2011, 06:34:44 PM »

Knagl, that would be great...i'am pretty sure,it will help...
Thanks a lot...
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« Reply #69 on: June 05, 2011, 10:57:39 AM »

Hello together,
Hello poppo,

today i have tried to connect the sentry bezel to my WBA. I have connected the black wire to GND and the red wire to +12 volts. The sentry bezel cycles through all colours but finally only the blue ambulance led is flashing. To connect the brown data-wire i have tried several things: connected it to TX, RX and all other pins; no result. Then i have soldered a fourth wire at the sentry (to replace the white cable that is shown in one picture at the beginning of this thread. I connected the two cable to TX / RX , change them and several other pins; still no result  no

Perhaps somebody has connected this sentry to a WBA yet and could tell me how to connect. Would be great. Any help is welcome. applause
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« Reply #70 on: June 05, 2011, 11:55:46 AM »

One thing that I would wonder about is if the bezel will work with a Bally. Even though it's using a WBA, I believe the BV firmware is different. Do you know if this bezel ever worked on that machine?

Also, you probably have to power the unit every time you try a different connection.
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« Reply #71 on: June 05, 2011, 02:09:36 PM »

Yes, the bezel comes out of a Bally S9000 machine. I bought a game kit (only the parts) and the bezel was definetly in the Bally machine. But the wires where cutted of and the dealer doesnt response any more so i dont know how to wire it. Do you know if i will need 3 oder 4 connecting-wires for a WBA? If i always need to power down and up the machine to find the right connections i guess this will be nearly impossible. I guess, i will need a connection diagram or something. Is your machine a IGT or Bally?
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« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2011, 04:58:33 PM »

Do you know if i will need 3 oder 4 connecting-wires for a WBA? If i always need to power down and up the machine to find the right connections i guess this will be nearly impossible. I guess, i will need a connection diagram or something. Is your machine a IGT or Bally?

Well, the WBA at pictures earlier show 4 wires, but maybe a Bally only needs 3. I have a IGT, so I have no idea. As far as powering down between trying different connection, I am only speculating since the bezel goes though a self test and then receives data from the BV. That is why you are getting the ambulance symbol because it thinks the BV is broken. I don;t know if you can hook it up once that is displayed and have it work without powering the machine down and back up again.
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« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2011, 09:20:26 PM »

Connection at WBA housing.


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« Reply #74 on: June 05, 2011, 09:22:22 PM »

Bezel connection


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