S+ coin in Optic Bypass

[StatFreak]

Thanks for the answer SlotDocs!....but, why oh why do I feel like the guinea pig?

    Just play "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" by The Platters when you test your machine to make it feel right at home. 

[jdkmunch]

SB did you ever win the auction for the free play?

[stayouttadabunker]

No Munch,
the bidding got crazy...the winning bid with shipping was over 80 bucks!....nuts

[jdkmunch]

Wow that is nuts!

[stayouttadabunker]

yes...too much for my wallet...
BTW  Stat, you really oughta consider a stint in show biz....I'd buy a ticket to one of your comedy fests

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[Slot Docs]

Oh by the way,
    Nice diagramming job on the plug you made SB
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[stayouttadabunker]

Thanks SlotDocs,
I wanted to be clear and precise in my question...you gave me an excellent answer -  which I will try tomorow...

[dpalmi]

I wanted to be clear and precise in my question...you gave me an excellent answer -  which I will try tomorow...

 

Good luck...let us know what you find

Dan #2

[stayouttadabunker]

Okay,
I cut the loops and soldered all 4 ends together (same as connecting the loops)
Enabled the DBV with SET90 chip, and put in a SP1271.
Removed the coin mech harness and stuck the "coin-less" plug on the end of the harness.
Booted up the old S+ and voila!  Game ready! 
Threw in a dollar in the DBV to get 4 credits - as the DBV is set for .25 denomination.
4 credits show up in the credit display, played one credit at a time...worked perfect! ...no error codes until......

I got a cherry on the payline. Worth 2 credits...hit the cash/credit button to see what would happen.....?

Error code "3200" pops up...
The MPU is still looking for the hopper even though there's none

How to proceed?

 

[Foster]

Thats the next trick emulating the hopper, or set your hopper limit to 0 so all cash outs become hand pay

[Slot Docs]

Hey guys,
     Set the hopper partial pay to zero.........that will make all cash outs hand pays.
then when you cash out the machine will go into hand pay mode with audible alarm, use reset key and it will run off credits and return to game mode ready for a new bill.
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[jay]

You could also set the hopper limit to 9999 and disconnect the cash/credit button.
This way you don't have to deal with the reset key. Not sure if this would bypass the hand pay for the top 2 awards though.

[stayouttadabunker]

Awesome, I already have the "partial pays" set to zero, but I didnt think about the hopper limits as pointed out by Foster.
I will try that!


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Perfectly....now I gotta find an credit output open/closed signal for the printer

[learninginsa]

Hello everyone,

 I came across this post, and was wanting to do this to my S+ 5X.

 The only problem is that I do not have the plug pictured in this thread in my machine, because it is a slant top.

 The coin comparitor, optics, and hopper all run through one plug.

Would it be possible to post the origin of those wires that were jumped to make this work?

or maybe the pins to jump on a slant top?

Thanks, sorry I am new to these machines.

[stayouttadabunker]

Does your slant machine have a Bill Acceptor?
The reason I ask is because if there's no DBV -
you won't be able to add credits to your game!

[learninginsa]

yes, it does have a bill acceptor. thank you

[learninginsa]

The machine has a DBV-45-SS that is functional in it, if the kind of bill acceptor makes a difference.

[stayouttadabunker]

There must be a main molex connector coming from the MPU box up to the Coin-In stuff.
The main harness splits at the hopper?
Is there a another white molex connector mating the harness up to the coin mech?
Or is it all one continuous wire from the MPU up to the coin mech?

[learninginsa]

There is a main molex connector (20 pin) coming from the MPU, and out of that 20 pin molex connector the wires run directly to the coin in area, and the hopper, and has one harness that goes to another board on the side of the machine.

But everything is straight from that 20 pin molex comnector, to it's final destination in the machine.

[stayouttadabunker]

Looks like you're gonna need a slant top machine expert
who might have done a coin-less mod.
I only did it for the S+ uprights.
It will require wiring schematics reading of a slant top machine
to figure out what wires need to be jumped to fool the MPU into
thinking the coin mech is still there.
Even once the bypass-plug is made, you still have to go into the options settings
of the slant and change some settings there as well.

I thinking it's possible that some of the vendors might have made this mod for a slant top machine.
Get a hold of April at SlotsUnlimited or Ken at Ohioslots.
They gave me excellent input last time I was doing this mod.

[learninginsa]

I'm sorry, that 20 pin molex is actually to the power supply to all those components.

On the top of the MPU there are several other molex connections that go to the power supply.

One of the ones not used is a 12 pin molex, but there is nothing attached to that socket.

[stayouttadabunker]

Does the 12-pin molex look like the one in reply #22 post I had for the S+ upright?
If so, I'd jumped the same pins in the wiring diagram I had drawn up.
Only, tie them in together as was suggested by SlotDocs in reply #23.
It's basically 4 wires tied together...
I just threw a drop of hot lead solder to keep them together.
There's two ridges on the left side of the molex and this is looking at the plug
from behind where the wires come out of it>>>

[learninginsa]

Thanks stayouttadabunker, for trying to help me out.

I will try that,

[learninginsa]

yes, the plug looks the same, but has nothing in it currently.

So maybe I should just try to jump it there, and then disconnect what is currently going to the coin area. and not worry about where it is comming from?

[learninginsa]

I did try to jump them there, and seemed to have no effect.

I pulled the powersupply cover off, and it seems that the whole coin area harness goes through that 20 pin molex, and then goes to J4 on the backplane board. the rest of that harness splits off to other sockets on the backplane.