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Any suggestions on what you guys and gals have used to replace your fluorescents in your S2000's? I have a SS Sizzling Sevens and a Ms. Little Green Men vision. I'm wanting to cut down on the heat output. The T5's in the vision are 6" I believe and the T8's in the body are 2 footers, right?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Chuck

I know Happs has been selling them if you don't have qualms about paying
outrageous mystery shipping charges - then that would be the way to go!
However, I'd do an internet search at various light bulb warehouse websites.
for some reason, they're expensive as hell here in the states.
The companies here jack up the prices so high perhaps because of duty and importation costs.
Everything LED-wise is so much cheaper from overseas but you have to be patient on the shipping...
They seem to snail across the Pacific in slow boats...lol

I was afraid I was gonna have to do the over seas thing. I was just hoping someone had an in on a local place. I guess I'll order from Hong Kong and hope the container doesn't fall into the ocean. Unfortunately, that has happened to me before. Seriously. I've dealt with Happ before for my MAME machine and sticker shipping sticker shock is putting it nicely.

Thanks anyway,

Chuck

Yeah...it sucks when all the slots are really made in mexico or the parts come from japan.
I don't think there's one complete machine "Made In U.S.A." anymore.  :37-

Take a look at superbightleds.com they have sections for general lighting and for bars/strips.  They are not the direct plug ins like Happ sells but they dont cost an arm and leg either. With a little know how (which I dont have) there must be a way to make these work in slot machines.

 

HAPP buys their LED tube replacements from "LedTech" in Van Nuys, California :)
Now I'm not saying you should do a "End Run" on HAPP.....
Oh what the hell...yes..buy them directly from Ledtech...screw HAPP  :)

Kirk

Or get CCFL bulbs for auto use, get a 12v plugin transformer, and make a holder where the florescent would normally go, I am thinking about doing this myself, colors available also.

Try MCM-Electronics

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/LEDTECH-19209-415-R-/25-3520 (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/LEDTECH-19209-415-R-/25-3520)

Thats the one..see the LedTech part number......

Kirk

I just happen to run across this thread.  Anyway, Som (asommer) has put CCFL on one or two of his machines but I think only in place of the reel light.  I think when he had The Munsters theme in he has one white and one green.  He said two greens was too dark.  I can ask him the next time I call him or when I go over see if he will let me take some pics.  I was thinking of doing CCFL too because Som said something about paying like $4 each for these he bought and he just tapped in to the coin demon. 

That would be great. I'm just looking at options as obviously the fluorescents put off a lot of heat and they have faded the reels, especially on the Ms. Little Green Men. I mean the yellows are actually flaking away.

Chuck

Sorry for the detour, but ashyron now that you mentioned Sommer, have you talked to him lately? I haven't seen him post in quite a while?

 Dan (tacman)

He might be in the middle of a "move" Dan. He was going to drop in up here in Vegas a few weeks ago and I didnt hear from him.
I'm pretty sure we will hear from him from his new location outside the USA :)
I will try his phone numbers I have in Socal and see if he answers...


Kirk

I called him a few minutes ago. Som is fine, has been VERY busy and is still planning his move.
He says to say "HI" to everyone for him, and thanks for thinking about him :)


Kirk

Dan, he has been so busy with work he can barely do anything else.  I actually did get a joke email from him this morning, first email from him in over a week.  He hasn't had time to be on the site let alone be home or able to come out here to get the money I have to give him.


Oh yea, that too.  He has lots to pack up to move.

ON THE OLD FORUM I DID A COMPLETE DEMONSTRATION ON COLD CATHODE LIGHTING ETC
DO NOT BUY FROM HAAP LIKE A FORMER MEMBER DID AND PAY 44.?? PLUS SHIPPING

THERE WAS A LINK I POSTED FOR BUYING THEM IN THE USA AND OUT OF USA SAME DEALER !!

THEY RUN ON 12 VOLT DC TWO BULBS MADE BY LOGISYS WERE 4.99 --to 6.99 SHIPPED

WE ALL HAVE A 12 VOLT AC TRANSFORMER LEFT OVER FROM A CORDLESS PHONE OR SOMETHING IN HOUSE ??

I WAS MAKING HOUSE ALARMS WITH THEM . SINCE MOST CAME WITH A SOUND ACTIVATED SENSOR THAT WAS ADJUSTABLE ON THE GOOD ONES OR PRE-SET ON REG SERIES ..

YOU JUST PULL THE STANDARD FLOURECENT AND ADAPT THESE IN PLACE --THEY RUN COOLER THAN COOL !!

COME IN RED -BLUE -ULTRAVIOLET  >not eye burn << "rick hunter " lol
they come in two packs or singles .. in 6-inch

CITIDEALS ?? EBAY PERHAPS

THERE ARE DOZENS WHO SELL THEM . I PURCHASED 1000 SETS 5--6 YRS AGO STILL HAVE 20 PAIR LEFT .

'LOGISYS"IS THE NAME BRAND IN BLUE BOX MADE IN CHINA

==================================================================
THE HOUSE ALARMS WERE EASY SET THE SOUND RECOGNIZER NEAR A DOOR ETC OR WALL ..RUN LIGHT TO A ROOM YOUR IN WITH T.V. OR AMBIENT NOISE ALL THE TIME .. >>>OH SOUNDS LIKE THE GAME ROOM <<<<  IF SOMEONE KNOCKS THE LIGHT BLINKS OR FLICKERS !!

GOOD FOR OLD PEOPLE WHO CANT HEAR SOUND BUT STILL SEE THE LIGHT !!!

As I recall, these are what Som has on his machine.  Just different colors or course.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-Blue-6-CCFL-Cold-Cathode-Neon-Tube-Light-Lamp-Bulb_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efc042604QQitemZ270516102660QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-Blue-6-CCFL-Cold-Cathode-Neon-Tube-Light-Lamp-Bulb_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efc042604QQitemZ270516102660QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

But I am wondering if these might be better??  They are 12 inch long instead of 6 inches long. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-White-12-CCFL-Cold-Cathode-Car-Neon-Tube-Light-Lamp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efc0409a4QQitemZ270516095396QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2x-White-12-CCFL-Cold-Cathode-Car-Neon-Tube-Light-Lamp_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efc0409a4QQitemZ270516095396QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

GREAT IDEA!!!
Think a little OUTSIDE of the box here.....
We all love a room totally lit up, it looks great. But who wants to have a few KW of power on all the time? Simply wire these to the outlet inside the machine or a seperate circuit and leave just the CCFL's lit, even tho the machines are asleep....
So these stay on,drawing close to nothing for power....
Use a X-10 controller to sense motion in the room so they light when you walk in....
I might have to order some of these to play with....

Thanks for the link :)

Kirk

I have those Logisy lights on my S+.
I tried the "blue" light but it didn't work too well with some strips.
Especially if some symbols on your strips are green like Leap Frog for instance.
The colors don't look right.
I really like the white ones but it's all depends on what color strips you have.

The little Velcro's tend to fall off, and when it does,
it happens usually while the reels are in motion  :37-
I find it best to use an adhesive such as Goop to hold the lights in place.
It dries to the consistency similar to bathroom caulking.
If the bulb ever burns out, you'll need a sharp exacto knife to cut it off.
Don't glue them to the reel glass or you'll be sorry later on when you have to replace it.

I odered some from him.....
BE CAREFUL! his site is majorly screwed up!
Some of it is in Euros (doesnt convert)
Some of it is in USA

Kirk

It's been so long since I have seen Som's setup  of these but as I recall he used the plastic cable ties to keep his in place.  This also made it easy to change colors if you change games.
 

What did he zip tie them too?
The existing fluorescent lamp metal bracket?

As I recall, yes.   :89- :89-  I believe (but don't quote me) he took out the fluorescent bulb and cable tied the CCFL's in that area.  Like I said, it's been so long since I have seen his set-up of these.

Thanks for the update on Sommer, guys. K+ to ya!

 Dan (tacman)

in this picture look at the reel area, you can see how white the area looks in comparison to the belly and award.

this is the interface, it plugs into the plug that would go to the electronic ballest. the Led strip goes inside a plastic tube with end caps that have two pins on each end and go in where the lamp would be.  (enlarge the picture to see this)      Jim

Looks good Jim. Do you have a part number and where didja get it. K+.

Had several requests for info on the LED strip:   I did not buy it, it came with the machine!, however there was some information on the unit I can pass along.

The unit had a HAPP number on it  91-1017-00 (plastic tube/ end caps / LED STRIP)
The interface had this number on it: LED TECH    PCBLBO5013


As stated in an earlier post, LED TECH is located in Van Nuys ,CA.   may want to check them out??


Jim

That name sounds really familar to me, but I can't quite place it.  Do they, perhaps, make the LED chaser parts in the oval IGT toppers?

I think this is their website, although it's "under construction": http://www.ledtechusa.com/

THOSE ARE SIMILAR TO SOME I PURCHASED . BUT THE SHIPPING ON THE ONES I GOT WAS WAY LESS SHOP AROUND .
MEMORY WAS 6.99 FREE SHIPPING !!


BOTH OF THOSE HAVE A FIXED SOUND SENSOR !!! NOT ADJUSTABLE SO YOU OUT OF LUCK IF YOU WANT TO TURN THEM ALMOST OFF UNLESS THE ROOF CAVES IN ??

OR PULL THE SOUND SENSOR OUT AND RIG UP THE LIGHTS TO RUN STEADY ?? THE ADJUSTABLE SOUND ONES WERE MADE BY LOGISY ALSO !! WITH A NEAT HIDDEN MIKE ON THE RIBBON CABLE ..

AFTER THEY BREAK .DONT FORGET TO RINSE OUT THE WHITE POWDER BEFORE YOU USE IT AS A COLORED STRAW !! LOL

 BUNKERS IDEA !!! :97- :97- :97- :97- :97- :97- :97-  OH THE UMBRELLA IN GLASS  :97- :97- :97- :97- :97-

Sounds sensors?  Interesting.  I too thought the shipping was pretty high considering how much these things weigh.  What do you need sounds for in a light??  Is it going to try to talk to you?? :208- :208-

 :81- :81-Straws?  Leave it to bunker to come up with something like that.  :91- :71-

I found em on Amazon.com of all places for about $11.00 shipping included.
http://www.amazon.com/WHITE-CATHODE-BRIGHT-INCHES-COMPUTER/dp/B000JQ17WU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1268431762&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/WHITE-CATHODE-BRIGHT-INCHES-COMPUTER/dp/B000JQ17WU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1268431762&sr=8-2)

I'm still looking for an all led solution...no uv to fade the graphics..... :96-

I TYPE IN CAPS GUYS IM NOT YELLING GET USED TO IT ..ORDONT READ IT LOL

THE PURPOSE OF THE DARN THINGS WERE TO PUT INSIDE THE TOWER OF A COMPUTER CASE -- SO WHEN YOU GOT MAIL IT WOULD LIGHT UP ETC OR CLICKS ETC ..

THE BLUE BOXES YOU SEE ARE SOUND ACTIVATED SENSORS !! IF YOU USE THEM . SO WHEN PLUGGED IN IF SMEONE KNOCKS ON TABLE THE LIGHTS COLD CATHODE LIGHT UP !!

THE SAME LIGHTS MADE BY LOGISY --THE ONES I PURCHASED 1000 PAIRS OF 4-5 YRS AGO .

I MADE ALL SORTS OF COOL THINGS !! ONE WAS HOUSE ALARMS !! BUT SILENT !!

YOU INSTAL THE MICROPHONE NEAR A DOOR WINDOW ETC RUN LIGHT UP TO BED ROOM ETC .. PLUG 12 VOLT TRANSFORMER INTO POWER THEM UP !! 12 VOLTS DC 900 MW IS FINE OR 500 MW IS FINE FOR CLOSE DISTANCE .

IF SOMEONE OPENS A DOOR THE LIGHT POPS ON OR FLICKERS ?? HELLO INTRUDER !!!!  MY DOGS BARK MY HOUSE LOOKS LIKE DANNY DEVITO'S HOUSE IN THE CHRISTMAS MOVIE WITH ALL THE LIGHTS GOING OFF !!

OTHER SLOTS I PUT THEM IN SET IT ON LOUD SO YOU REALLY NEED A HIGH DECIBAL NOISE TO TRIGGER IT ?? LIKE A SLOT BELL OR THE DING DING DING ON JACKPOT !!

ON MY GAMEMAKER THE TUNE BUNKER HAD ON WHATS THIS SOUND POST ?? RAGS ?? THE GAMEMAKER HIT A JACKPOT STARTED THE MUSIC --THE PUPS COULD NOT BARK BUT HOWL .. I LEFT IT RUNNING 5-10 MINUTES TO GRAB VIDEO CAMERA TO VIDEO THE PUPS HOWLING IN UNISON TO THE JACKPOT TUNE !! WHILE THE COLD CATHODES FLICKERED UP AND DOWN ..

FOR OLD PEOPLE OR HARD OF HEARING AS MYSELF ..ITS GREAT FOR A ALTERNATE DOOR KNOCKER OR BELL !!
IF THE BLUE LIGHT POPS ON !! THERE IS SOMEONE KNOCKING AT DOOR !!

THEY COME IN 12-INCH AND 6-INCH

I WAS JUST MENTIONING THE ONES ON THE EBAY LISTING HAD A FIXED NOISE SENSOR NON ADJUSTABLE
FIND THE ONES WITH THE ADJUSTABLE KNOB --YOU MAY PAY 3.00 BUCKS MORE BUT ITS SURE WORTH THE MONEY !!
OR WIRE IN A VOLUME CONTROL ?? I WOULD THINK THAT WIRED PROPERLY WOULD DO THE SAME TRICK !!
JUST ASK THE OLD ROCKET !! BEEN THERE DONE THAT !! LOL IM ALWAYS OPEN TO NEW IDEAS IF ANYBODY HAS THEM ??
NOW THAT I BROKE MY ARM PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK !!

LATER GUYS& GALS

At a fabric store called Jo-Anns Fabrics, they sell clear or colored plastic tubes.
I thought of saving all my old burned out fluorescent tubes so
I could bust off the ends and Goop them to the ends of the clear tubes...
stick in a strand of white LEDs running off of a couple of resistors and
12Vdc from the unused "Line Bet"shadow box red connector off of the door harness.
I'm guessing I could make these cool lights for about 3 or 4 dollars...
Remember, it's just for fun...it won't be UL approved or anything.
"It could even burn your house down!"
(My wife's always screaming that phrase in my ear...lol)

IF I have the time...lol

I couldn't help myself....lol

Dan #2