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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2010, 01:27:58 PM »
Quote from: cruisepl on November 05, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on November 05, 2010, 03:15:28 AM
(ND) means "Not Dead"?

Non Directional ??

I was just kidding about the "Not Dead" term but I've heard of certain bulbs being "non-polarized".
I wonder if that's what they meant when they use the (ND) in the product title?
However, conflicting myself - you'd think they'd used the initials (NP) right? lol
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 01:41:26 PM »
Non Directional
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2010, 03:02:00 PM »
That's good to know guys.  yes  applause
I gooogled it up and it seems the definition is for the "direction of light" emitted -
according to a directive by the EuP (Energy Using Products) of the (EC) Energy Council.  LOL
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2010, 06:16:47 PM »
Quote from: CaptainHappy on November 05, 2010, 08:10:25 AM
Quote from: PLUNGER BOY on November 05, 2010, 03:12:24 AM
the bulbs at digi-key  are listed as XE359-ND  or XE359 . any idea what the difference is (ND)

Quote from: stayouttadabunker on November 05, 2010, 03:15:28 AM
(ND) means "Not Dead"?

The ND is just something that DigiKey routinely adds to their part numbers, and I am not sure what it stands for...
BUT here at NLG, ND stands for NEVER DULL!!!! Cry Laughing
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I have seen the -ND on the end of every part I have ever bought from DigiKey, so I 100% KNOW it is not Non Directional......

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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2010, 08:58:24 PM »
 WOW  look at all that energy spent .I guess ill just keep it simple next time . but did appreciate  the follow up .thanks
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2010, 02:34:47 AM »
Haha!   You actually called them Capt?!?!?! LOLOLOLOLolololol

I would have sent them a link to this thread!
The boys in the backroom would have it printed/pasted on the billboard and in their Newletters,
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2010, 08:10:03 PM »
 Bump  So i guess a group buy is off the table huh?   Scratch Head
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2010, 09:46:30 PM »
im still looking for the answer to the question, have jim blue trying to figure out what i really need.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2010, 12:02:53 AM »
Quote from: rarestamx on November 09, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
im still looking for the answer to the question, have jim blue trying to figure out what i really need.

Re-read replies 1,2,3,4,5,7,13, and 14.

Cowboygames says he is happy with his conversion, but most folks disagree. I tried LEDs in my Wms reels and did not like the spotlight effect. I put back the regular bulbs.


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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2010, 12:33:07 AM »
I think the LED bulbs would work best in a 5 reel game, since there's only 1 back light bulb per stop, not 2 like on 3 reelers
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2010, 04:46:06 AM »
Quote from: Brianzz on November 10, 2010, 12:33:07 AM
I think the LED bulbs would work best in a 5 reel game, since there's only 1 back light bulb per stop, not 2 like on 3 reelers

Nope looks like poo-poo! I put an led back in that Buzz and I had experimented with on my 5 reel Triple Butterfly 7's machine. The led is in the center light of the first reel, and I disconnected the fluorescent reel light so that these pictures would come out better! I got an ok hit that I am showing off as well!  wave

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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2010, 04:58:47 AM »
I wonder if you put some diffusing paper over it, like waxed paper, if it would eliminate the spot light effect? Or maybe that's just too much of a pain.. would be to me anyway.
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2010, 05:18:46 AM »
If anything, you'd probably be better off putting the diffusing paper behind the reel strips instead of in front of the LED. If I owned one (and I do have a Wms Dot), I'd just leave the incandescent bulbs as is.
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2010, 06:19:05 AM »
Quote from: Brianzz on November 10, 2010, 04:58:47 AM
I wonder if you put some diffusing paper over it, like waxed paper, if it would eliminate the spot light effect? Or maybe that's just too much of a pain.. would be to me anyway.
Quote from: StatFreak on November 10, 2010, 05:18:46 AM
If anything, you'd probably be better off putting the diffusing paper behind the reel strips instead of in front of the LED. If I owned one (and I do have a Wms Dot), I'd just leave the incandescent bulbs as is.

With my luck it would start a fire!  arrow

You both were "spot" on when you figured the xenon bulb works just fine!

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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2010, 06:36:10 AM »
You know what looks good?  Pulling the assembly out and replacing and/or cleaning all of the bulbs, and mirror like housing that they sit in, along with an intense cleaning of the backlit strips front and back.  Get everything dust/nicotine free, and it lights up like a mofo! 
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2010, 06:49:12 AM »
Quote from: Yoeddy1 on November 10, 2010, 06:36:10 AM
You know what looks good?  Pulling the assembly out and replacing and/or cleaning all of the bulbs, and mirror like housing that they sit in, along with an intense cleaning of the backlit strips front and back.  Get everything dust/nicotine free, and it lights up like a mofo! 


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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2010, 06:57:25 AM »
You should see how many times I Windex off my button deck and reel glass every day.  Wink
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2010, 12:53:02 PM »
Really, it's the oil from your fingers that causes all the smearing...
you oughta wear little white cotton gloves!!!  rotflmao
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2010, 01:34:29 PM »
uh oh

http://cgi.ebay.com/Casino-Collectible-BELLAGIO-Slot-Machine-Gambling-Glove-/320614563345
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2010, 02:47:25 PM »
no good - It's not white... rotflmao
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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2010, 03:30:51 PM »
Quote from: Brianzz on November 10, 2010, 01:34:29 PM
uh oh

http://cgi.ebay.com/Casino-Collectible-BELLAGIO-Slot-Machine-Gambling-Glove-/320614563345


Wow!  No kidding?  People actually used these?  Looks like it would be a PITA.
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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2010, 03:57:26 PM »
Casinos used to give these gloves away for the little old ladies so they wouldn't get their fingers dirty.
Coins are filthy really.
These were really popular before the onslaught of DBV's and TITO systems.
Come to think of it...paper money isn't that clean either...  vomit ill Vomiting Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2010, 04:17:47 PM »
I can see your point in those pictures, but my led conversion on the cleo was circuit boards with 3 led chips per board so no spotlight effect. I'll try and post a picture tonight or tomorrow.
Quote from: CaptainHappy on November 10, 2010, 04:46:06 AM
Quote from: Brianzz on November 10, 2010, 12:33:07 AM
I think the LED bulbs would work best in a 5 reel game, since there's only 1 back light bulb per stop, not 2 like on 3 reelers

Nope looks like poo-poo! I put an led back in that Buzz and I had experimented with on my 5 reel Triple Butterfly 7's machine. The led is in the center light of the first reel, and I disconnected the fluorescent reel light so that these pictures would come out better! I got an ok hit that I am showing off as well!  wave

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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2010, 04:26:02 PM »
Quote from: cowboygames on November 10, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
I can see your point in those pictures, but my led conversion on the cleo was circuit boards with 3 led chips per board so no spotlight effect. I'll try and post a picture tonight or tomorrow.

I've heard about them but never seen those close up.  no
Outta be a cool project to make! yes
It can't be too hard to make little circuit boards with some onboard LEDs.
All one has to do is get the specs on them and fabricate them for themselves!
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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2010, 04:36:14 PM »
I can get you the specs if you want to give it a try. Mine came off a set of 2 1/4 reels made by IGT, but you're right, should be a huge deal to make them
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