RED WHITE & BLUE Problems

[Jacell3]

The problem i am having is the coins fall into the Drop and not into the hopper and also when i want to cash out an alarm goes off and i need to reset the machine for it to work again..... Thanks, John

[poppo]

Do you have coins in the hopper? If so, are they touching the probe? If not, check to make sure the probe wire is not shorted to anything. When the hopper gets full and hits the probe, the coins complete a path to ground that signals the machine to divert the coins to the drop. Any short to ground in that wire will cause the same thing.

[stayouttadabunker]

Okay, poppo answered the 1st one.
I'll attack the other question.
read this and tell me what your SP chip is: >>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm

[Jacell3]

The hopper has very few coins in it..
In the winners paid box it says 3530   in the credits box it sys 0733

[poppo]

The hopper has very few coins in it..

Pull the hopper out (with power off) and check the probe wire. Since the wire sort of just dangles, it can get pinched somewhere.

[Jacell3]

That checks good buy the meter.

[poppo]

That checks good buy the meter.

What did you actually check? You need to make sure it is not shorted to ground.

Next, with power off, look at this solenoid. It should be down. Make sure it is and is not stuck in the up position. Manually move the punger up and down and see if the diverter is moving as it should.

[Jacell3]

I checked it for continuity .. The solenoid works freely.

[poppo]

I checked it for continuity ..

What points did you measure? With power off, measure from the probe to ground. It should read very high.

[Jacell3]

Yes, it does read very high.

[poppo]

The solenoid works freely.

Is it moving the little diverter flap back and forth? Not the perfect solution, but you can always disconnect the solenoid so the coins always go into the hopper. If you haven't already, be sure to try and re-seat the MPU.

On a side note, this is where a door optics bypass comes in handy. So one can see what is happening with the door open.

[Jim]

for troubleshooting purposes, remove the hopper, let the coin tray off, power  the machine close the door and see what happens. that will remove the hopper as part of the problem. 
next, put hopper back in, press white test button to get into the test mode, let door open, go to input tests, 10_1 in winner paid window, either using the service button or the reset key switch advance to test # 15_0.  short the coin probe to any metal surface, the 0 should change to a 1. that is testing the input signal to the cpu.
next, using the bet 1 switch advance the tests to the output test 10 in winner paid window, using the service switch advance it to test # 33  press the spin switch and see if the diverter will work.

see what results you get and we will go from there.

Jim

[Jacell3]

I pulled the hopper out powered the machine up and closed the door and nothing happened...Now i i am trying to locate 10_0 but all i can find is a 10_1...I did the #33 test and the divert er did nothing. I unplugged the solenoid and they now go into the hopper.

[poppo]

.....I unplugged the solenoid and they now go into the hopper.

While it would be good to find the problem, as long as you are not using the drop and don't let the hopper overflow, unplugging the solenoid should work ok.

Do you still have the cash out problem? If so, what exactly happens (i.e. what is flashing or displayed)?

[Jacell3]

When i try to cash it out an alarm sounds and flashing in the winner box 0000 and credit box there is 0001.

[poppo]

When i try to cash it out an alarm sounds and flashing in the winner box 0000 and credit box there is 0001.

I don't have the PSR for your game chip, but it sounds like you may have the hopper limits set to hand pay.

[Jacell3]

Is that hard to change ?  Not sure what PSR means(Sorry).

[poppo]

Is that hard to change ?  Not sure what PSR means(Sorry).

The PSR (Program summary report) tells you all of the features of your game chip and how to change the settings. I'm sure someone will chime in shortly and tell you how to check the settings for your 733 chip.

[Jacell3]

Thank You  Poppo

[Buzz]

Have fun.

[Jacell3]

OK this may be a dumb question but how do i get to that option to change it from 0_13 to 1_13.

[poppo]

OK this may be a dumb question but how do i get to that option to change it from 0_13 to 1_13.

First make sure there are no credits on the machine. But I'm pretty sure it's not option 13 you want to change.

Check - Max Hopper Pay <7> and make sure it is not set to 0. (or let us know what is says)

Carefully follow these directions to change:

SELF TEST MODE
Pressing the self test switch or the Bet One Credit player switch “pagesâ€� forward through the self test mode, and pressing the Play Max Credits player switch pages backward.  Changes or selections in the options pages may be made by pressing the Change switch or turning the jackpot reset key. 

Or, for this SP chip, you can use DIP switches 1 &2 on the MPU to set the hopper limits.

[Jacell3]

Ok if i did this correctly it says 7 in coins played box and i have 1000 with the last 0 flashing

[poppo]

Ok if i did this correctly it says 7 in coins played box and i have 1000 with the last 0 flashing

Ok, that means the machine will pay out 1000 coins before going into hand pay. Press the self test a few more times and turn the machine off and on. Then see what happens. If it still happens, you can try changing 13, but again make sure there are no credits on the machine first.

Where are all of the settings experts?  I hate messing with options. 

[Jacell3]

Alarm went off when i hit the cash out button.