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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2011, 03:57:41 AM »
Understood Buzz.  I wish I had another machine to test with, but I don't.  If I was to get a multimeter and touch the contacts on the ends of the cables on the S2000, could that tell me a story?
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2011, 04:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Foster on January 30, 2011, 02:26:18 AM
Other than the spade type connectors everything looks ok.
I wonder where those spade connectors go?
they go to cash box switch and can go to tracking system.
Found the answer in the manual, are they used on your machine?

Spade connectors were not connected to anything on my machine.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 04:23:40 AM »
If your not getting any power to the BV, you can buy a whole bunch of new BV and I'll bet none of them will work. I'm trying to tell you the BV gets it's power from the net plex connections on the mother board. ( the same area you were in when you removed the MPU to change the game kit.) I would have check each and every connection that go to the mother board, some of them are a pain in the butt to get to but need to be checked.

I have a couple of older model Mars BV and they use a different wire harness than a WBA. ( I've never installed one )  But a WBA in a S 2000, sometimes you have to recalculate the CRC 4.8.2.1  I don't know if this needs to be done with a BV like yours.

The Red ,Black, and White wires go to a micro switch that the cash can depresses when it's installed. Much like the cherry switch on a S 2000 that none of us hook up.
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« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2011, 10:56:00 PM »
WBA12 complete will be here tomorrow....stay tuned. Thanks again Darrell!

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2011, 06:56:21 AM »
Jason,

My mind is still a bit scattered right now, but I seem to remember that there is a function in the S2000 Software (But it may be in iGames though??? I can't remember now, and I am not near any machines to look for you... At least machines that I can open up without being thrown in Jail!!!) where you select NETPEX AUTOCONFIG or something like that.... The machine then scans the Netplex bus for devices. Might be worth a try looking for that? I was just trying to spark an idea that someone in their right mind can chime in on... arrow Crazy rotflmao bust gut laughing

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2011, 07:04:17 AM »
Scanning for Netplex devices is also available on the S2000 under menu 4 I/O Tests
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2011, 07:53:10 AM »
Quote from: Foster on February 02, 2011, 07:04:17 AM
Scanning for Netplex devices is also available on the S2000 under menu 4 I/O Tests

Foster,

THANKS FOR CONFIRMING THAT FOR ME. Clap My mind is still a bit scattered right now!  +1 (Karma, or whatever)

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2011, 09:15:38 PM »
Well ladies and gents, I received the WBA12 kit from Darrell (slots4home) today.  Installed it and re-ran a netplex discovery and it showed "installed."  I had run the discovery per Tilt's suggestion early on with the MEI and it never took.  That machine was changing light patterns left and right, and as I mentioned, it eventually showed a fatal error (all three lights on) and then gave up the ghost resulting in no more power.  I still believe the contacts that the bill head mates with are damaged on that unit.  

At any rate, of course I gave it the ol spit shine cleaning and it runs like a top.

Darrell, if you see this note, BIG thanks again for the great deal and fast shipping!  Also to the rest of the crew that participated in this thread.  

Thanks,
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2011, 09:21:41 PM »
Jason One good thing is your S 2000 and your Game King WBA's will interchange.
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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2011, 09:24:50 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 02, 2011, 09:21:41 PM
Jason One good thing is your S 2000 and your Game King WBA's will interchange.

My first thought exactly Buzz!  You know, what's interesting is that the GK appears to have an older version on it.  Can these be updated?  Not a big deal.  I think the GK won't take the new fives.  Haven't tested the S2000 yet with new fives.  Probably doesn't either. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2011, 09:41:46 PM »
I might be wrong but I think if it's a 12 it has to be flashed to update.  Ben could tell you for sure, he flashed a bunch of them for me.
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« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2011, 10:16:34 PM »
This is not my picture or WBAs but here are the 3 WBA, 11,12, & 13.
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« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2011, 10:31:59 PM »
WBA 12 transport is flash and WBA 13 transport is EPROM (replace the chip)

But I think when you do either you may have to calibrate them.
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »
So I guess the questions for a numb skull like me, are:

Is there any benefit to flashing them to the latest and greatest version?  If so, what are the benefits?  (Takes new 5's?, faster performance, etc)

How does one update the hardware?  Assming it's the flashable type, which both of mine appear to be.  Does it have to be sent to somebody to flash and calibrate?

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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2011, 10:47:26 PM »
Quote from: Foster on February 02, 2011, 10:31:59 PM
WBA 12 transport is flash and WBA 13 transport is EPROM (replace the chip)

But I think when you do either you may have to calibrate them.

I did updated a couple of my WBA 13s by changing the chip. Didn't have to recalibrate them.

Only benefit that is took the new fives.


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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2011, 10:58:42 PM »
"Is there any benefit to flashing them to the latest and greatest version?"

Good question...
Personally, I almost never put a $5 bill in mine.
I normally use a $1, and a $20 or a $50 if I have one...lol

Using a $5 bill would take forever to rack up credits to play a machine.
How often do YOU put a $5 bill in it?
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2011, 11:03:53 PM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on February 02, 2011, 10:58:42 PM
"Is there any benefit to flashing them to the latest and greatest version?"

Good question...
Personally I almost never put a $5 bill in mine.
I normally use a $1, and a $20 or a $50 if I have one...lol

Using a $5 bill would take forever to rack up credits to play a machine.
How often do YOU put a $5 bill in it?

Yeah, I know it's not a big deal, but for one that has update'itis with PC's, networking hardware, Blu-ray players, printers, etc...if there's newer firmware/software available, I'm gonna flash it.  I've reached in my pocket before and pulled out a 5 and thought to myself "Oh wait, I can't use this."  Is it a pain?  No.  But knowing that a solution available is the splinter in the mind.

Anybody out here flash the 12's?

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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2011, 12:28:11 AM »
I hardly ever put money in my machine. I drop tokens into it instead.
In fact I flipped on sw1-5 on the WBA 12 in the S2000 and the DBV-200 in the S+ since I never see a $100 bill but want the Sentry's and the BV decals, to illuminate.
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« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2011, 12:45:40 AM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on February 02, 2011, 10:58:42 PM
Using a $5 bill would take forever to rack up credits to play a machine.
How often do YOU put a $5 bill in it?

I use my machines as 'piggy banks'. Loose change quarters always go in it, and I will often throw in singles and 5s. Come Christmas time, I usually have a nice chunk of change to buy more toys.
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2011, 02:18:45 AM »
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Quote from: stayouttadabunker on February 02, 2011, 10:58:42 PM
Using a $5 bill would take forever to rack up credits to play a machine.
How often do YOU put a $5 bill in it?

I use my machines as 'piggy banks'. Loose change quarters always go in it, and I will often throw in singles and 5s. Come Christmas time, I usually have a nice chunk of change to buy more toys.

Me too. I just throw in whatever paper is in my wallet when I feel like playing, and every couple months I've got some cash stashed for whatnot. Lat time I emptied them was a couple of weeks ago and got this:

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« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2011, 02:25:10 AM »
Putting money in home machines is just too risky if the law knocks on the door.
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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2011, 02:27:14 AM »
The law needs paper to come in the door...
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« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2011, 02:41:25 AM »
Quote from: Foster on February 03, 2011, 02:25:10 AM
Putting money in home machines is just too risky if the law knocks on the door.

Probably depends on the state. And generally as long as no money from other parties (i.e. outside of the household) is won/lost, no gambling exists.

And here we have this:
"Texas is one of the most lenient states when it comes to slot machine ownership. At this time, residents are allowed to own any type of slot machine that they wish."

But as noted above, without a warrant, why would the law be looking at my machines that they don't know I have? Scratch Head
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« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2011, 02:45:27 AM »
Hey brichter : I know whats in them boxes.... I like your style  YOU ROCK!!!
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