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« on: December 04, 2008, 09:09:35 PM »

 applause Thanks all I got it fixed but I have two problem with the machine  It was a dollar token machine from a cruise ship. I want to play with real dollars Eisenhowers. But the coin just drops out into the tray Duh! I did put an Eisenhower in the coin comparitor is there some dip switch I need to switch...I also cleaned the coin optics, but still no luck. Also when I went to  cash out the hopper would not stop it just going. I had to do a ram clear...Any ideals to what the problem(s) may be....Thanks again


 applause applauseFixed the reason for the hopper was the MPU board was bad and I got a new coin comparitor and that solved the coin drop problem. Thanks everyone Hail Hail


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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 09:37:57 PM »

1. was the CC working with the other coinage ? no DPS needs to be set
2. hopper sounds like the coin out optic is out of order.


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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 09:43:20 PM »

Thanks OZZY No as a matter of fact it didn't I have a left over token and it do take take it either..On the hopper is that an easy fix?
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 09:54:04 PM »

JOSH, YOU HAVE WHATS CALLED A COD COIN OPTIC DECODER BELOW THE COMPARITOR IS THE LITTLE YELLOW LIGHT ON ?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 10:28:08 PM »

coin out optic is an easy piece of tackle to change out, check with the on line NLG vendors for a replacement part.

as for the coin comparator, try adjusting the pot on the front of the CC, see attachment, might get you sorted otherwise you have a dud or it needs to be calibrated.


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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 11:53:40 PM »

Yes sir the yellow light is on and   the coin compartior the pot  is  covered but I feel the hole  so I'm gonna check it out
thanks guys.
 On the coin comparitor there is nothing to adjust through the small hole just a white piece of plastic
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 12:37:22 AM »

the white plastic should have a slot (cross) for a small screwdriver, this is a potentiometer, turn it towards the minus mark, this will make it less sensitive.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 02:40:18 AM »

Thanks this has no slot for a screw driver or +. The small hole was covered with the manufactures sticker.  hissy fit it's an Intelligent type..Thanks for looking..
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 02:41:39 AM »

Can you post a pic or some of it?

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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 03:18:41 AM »

Yes it looks like this one pictured it's an IC 16 1$..Thanks again..


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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 04:33:53 AM »

The one you have pictured looks to be a 13VDC is that the one you have in your slot ?? or a 24VAC ?

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 11:34:41 AM »

Your Intelligent Comparitor is a "programmed"  comparitor.   Coin Mechanism's website explains more in depth.  You need just a 24v AC  'regular' coin mech.  ...or a wide body coin mech to accomodate dollar tokens.  ...or just modify/change to quarter denom usage.  Also, with a correct coin-comparitor installed,  check the small toggle switch on game board front face...toggle sw should be "up".
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 12:05:33 PM »

Thanks all I will post a picture of mine this afternoon..Thanks again
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 12:17:46 PM »

yes make sure the "coin mech" switch is UP, or the game is disabled and
won't take money.

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 02:55:47 PM »

Yes I remember it being up. It takes cash just not the coin....Thanks I like that battery pack..
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 08:17:27 PM »

A picture of the coin comparitor in the machine American Flag Thanks for looking Help


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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 04:26:20 AM »

Your Intelligent Comparitor will NOT work in your machine. It is a programmed comparitor...programmed for a specific casino and a specific token.  The Intelligent ComparitorĀ® with SmartMarkĀ® reader is designed to further protect against counterfeiting by incorporating a bar code optic unit. The bar code optic device is designed to read specially marked SmartMarkĀ® tokens. This device reads precision mirrors that are accurately minted into the SmartMarkĀ® token when the token is manufactured. The SmartMarkĀ® is minted into the coin with great precision. The relationship between the center of the mass of the coin and the placement of the bar code is fixed into a specific pattern producing the entire coin signature. Once you have cleared RAM and reset parameters, the IC will no longer recognize any token and would have to be re-programmed with a CPM (Customer Programming Module)  Update data profile for your SmrtMark tokens....  Bottom line.........It won't work in your machine.

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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2008, 09:49:53 AM »

Thanks  hissy fit. Back to the drawing board.. Scratch Head
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2008, 10:58:10 AM »

Thanks  hissy fit. Back to the drawing board.. Scratch Head

Not to worry. Getting the correct comparitor for your machine shouldn't be difficult. Contact one of our vendors and tell them you have a Bally 5500 and that it's for a dollar machine. It's an easy fix. You might need a wiring harness if the Intelligent Comparitor uses a non-standard setup.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 05:13:49 PM »

Yea I'm getting some soon, but the hopper on the machine does not payout right. It goes into tilt for me to add more coins. I even tried known working hoppers and it does the same thing . It keeps paying and the credits never go down... Scratch Head then goes into tilt..
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 11:31:49 PM »

Do you have the right size coins in hopper it sounds like the coins are not passing through the optics correct
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 11:39:16 PM »

Yes sir Eisenhower dollars. It pays out but does not register on the credit out, If I cash out at 50 or so the 50 stays and never goes down and the machine goes into tilt. It just keeps paying and paying to where I have to do  ram clear.
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2008, 12:14:20 AM »

Try to move your knife up about 1/8 of an inch or so off shelf wheel or with hopper out watch to see if coins are going through optics turn hopper by hand
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 12:36:09 AM »

check the wires at your hopper connector in the machine.  After all, you did say the hopper works in other machines didn't you (or known working hoppers...).

Good luck,
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 01:01:11 AM »

Yes the hopper does work in my other machine. Thanks that what I will do.. Duh!
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