SAS Host controller DLL. What do you want to see?

[stayouttadabunker]

A)Does not matter what you set the default comms port parameters to,
because the DLL explicity sets all paramters before it opens the port.

B)Forget the legacy bonus poll for now.
The DLL will be polling you machine for exceptions in the backround,
so you should receive door open and closed exceptions for example.

C)Make sure you get the SAS poll address correct.
Not sure how this is configured in the machine.

A) Thanks, that's a good answer.
I'll just leave the serial port com 1 settings on default.

B) There actually is something called a "SAS Bonusing" option in the S+ settings under the SET088 chip.

C) That's where I think it's screwed up...
The S+ machine's address on page <0> is: ["XXX"]
The default numbers seen on the display is: ["000"]
I set mine to ["001"]




No go Houston...
I think I burned out my interface board.
I cannot get any of the DS 1&2 LEDs depicting data signaling ( Tx & Rx ) to light up anymore. 
I followed the drawings prescribe by NEXT GAMING and double checked my wiring harness configuration.
I have one SAS interface board left but I am NOT hooking it up until I can get some sort of
verification of the harness configuration and power voltages. 

I have to let someone else be the guinea pig...
I suspect the his poker backplane J82 header is not the same as the J4 header on an S+ motherboard?

[Foster]

Actually TITO the host has to look up the ticket data
by the validation number on the ticket. the host then sends back the value of the ticket
The only machine readable data on the ticket is the ticket number the rest is printed so the player and cage can read the details of the ticket.
The cage scans the ticket to be sure it is a valid ticket as well.

[poppo]

I followed the drawings prescribe by NEXT GAMING and double checked my wiring harness configuration.
I have one SAS interface board left but I am NOT hooking it up until I can get some sort of
verification of the harness configuration and power voltages.  

I have to let someone else be the guinea pig...
I suspect the his poker backplane J82 header is not the same as the J4 header on an S+ motherboard?

Check your e-mail. Something seems odd with the wiring on that drawing. It does not match up with J4 completely. And I'm skeptical of the power lines indicated since J4 'should' provide the power.

[stayouttadabunker]

I couldn't agree with you more Poppo but without the proper schematics of this board or
pin outs from an actual harness - I cannot take the chance of blowing up my last interface board.

[next_gaming]

Hi All

Finally Found, this is the original harness picture for this interface, unfortunately the part number is erased, however i think that this help about the properly connection, Whit this a external power supply is not required.

Best Regards
Next G

[stayouttadabunker]

The picture is very low resolution and I cannot make out the colors of the wiring.

Are the 2 wires on the J12 Molex going to the 2nd and 4th pins on the J82 connector like in your drawing?
Also, is this harness for the S+ or the PE+ motherboards ( "Backplane" boards) ?

[next_gaming]

Hello


Yes, i don´t post the picture before because i can´t find the harness to much time retired of sas design, but i test in s+ an player´s edge.


Best Regards

Next G

[stayouttadabunker]

Am I correct in saying that the J12 Molex is for the power to the Interface board?

The harness you have pictured - does it match your pin-out drawing?

[poppo]

Hello


Yes, i don´t post the picture before because i can´t find the harness to much time retired of sas design, but i test in s+ an player´s edge.


Best Regards

Next G

  None of those connectors seem to match up to a S+. Unless I'm missing something.

I've sort of stayed out of this thread because of the interface issue with a S+. A lot of things posted so far about the wiring, are not making much sense.

[stayouttadabunker]

Poppo,
He's showing us the harness for a "poker machine"
I saw his picture he posted of what appeared to be a motherboard from a PE+.
The longer "J12" connector I believe would go onto that front right J9 header on a S+?
While the "J82" would go onto the J4 S+ mobo header.

[next_gaming]

Absoultely yes

What I Do

1-plug harness on the motherboard and j82 on the interface.
2-Setting the machine for "SAS" and give the address in my case 001 and save
3-Inmediatly tx led start blinking comunication are good.

before plug to computer i try to ensure first about this.

Best Regards

Next G

[next_gaming]

Again


Is the same for s+ i try to get picture for motherboard and try to upload.


Next

[poppo]

Poppo,
He's showing us the harness for a "poker machine"
I saw his picture he posted of what appeared to be a motherboard from a PE+.
The longer "J12" connector I believe would go onto that front right header on a S+?
While the "J82" would go onto the J4 S+ mobo header.

Still does not look right. J82 has 6 pins across and would not fit into J4 which is 10 pins (2 rows of 5) but might be for the SAS board. J12 'might' go into J9, but that leaves J6 which may go to J6 on the motherboard, but I'm not sure what J6 is for as I can;t find it on my S+ schematic.

>>edited to note that J82 and J12 (actually J9) has now been clarified.

So is J6 used? And if so does that mean J4 was wrong from the beginning?  

>edit again. J6 seems to be for the BV.

A wiring pin-out is still needed so people can make this cable. Or a really high resolution picture of it.

[next_gaming]

Hello


Finally understand , the picture is something confuse.

in the harness picture

J12 had 15 pins
J6 had two rows of five pins each
the other go to J82 on the interface board

I try to make a video on saturday to show interface working properly.

[poppo]

Ok, so on a S+

J82 goes to the SAS board
J12 goes to J9 on motherboard
J6 goes to J4 on motherboard

Still really need the wiring diagram (i.e. J82 pin1 to J4 pin x, etc.) or a high rez picture so we can figure it out.

[poppo]

Also, this seems to confirm my earlier suspicion that the wiring diagram posted earlier was wrong. If you look at the original diagram pins 4,5,7 & 9 of J4 are used. However, the schematic shows pins 2,5,7,&9 are used. The picture of the cable shows a gap between the three wires and the single one (on the opposite side) which would support that the one wire should actually be connected to pin 2 and not 4. Without a proper ground from the machine (if using a separate power supply) it won't work right.

[stayouttadabunker]

 
I suspected a problem with NEXT GAMING's pin-out drawing 22 posts ago.
See Reply #218...

Thanks for figuring it out poppo!
It's not easy to do when you don't have the actual board in your hands!  

[poppo]

So the big question is - does it work now?  If it doesn't be sure to try swapping the RS232 tx and rx lines (pins 2&3) since we don't know for sure if those were annotated with a straight through cable or a crossover.

BTW, I have been looking at the schematics for the fiber link and there does not seem to be much difference other than going to a fiber coupler vice the MAX232. Both use a 74HC14 to clean up the pulses, and that's really about it. There are some extra components for daisy chaining the fiber, but not needed for a single connection. I might try to whip one up since I already have a MAX232 converter from one of my other abandoned  projects.

[stayouttadabunker]

Should I move the present #4 wire to pin-2 ?

Also, should I keep the walwarts 12Vdc  or put
the positive & GND from the J82's #2  & #4 into the J4?
If so, at which locations?

[TZtech]

Hello Bunker

Yes DCS ground is at pin 2 on the DCS port. You can use power from the points indicated by Nxt Gaming. Before plugging in the interface card you can double check by measuring for voltages at points where the interface card plugs in as indicated by Nxt Gaming. You can double check this even further by tracing back from the 7805 regulator on your interface card to the point where machin harness plugs into interface card.

A few posts back you had the red light flashing on your interface card. I would guess that at that point the machine was communicating but was not getting comms back.

BTW the setup would be the same for S+ and PE+. Bear in mind that the socket numbers would differ (even from one revision to another of motherboard they change the numbers).

Still trying to get some schematics on the IF card. Poppo did raise a good point about the fibre board will also try and DIY.

Ian

[stayouttadabunker]

Houston,
We now have full and total contact with an S+...




Success! 

All I did was change the #4wire to the pin#2 location!
Thanks to poppo for finding out that particular pin location.
I have both DS 1&2 LEDs blazing away!
The board did NOT burn out!
It works!
This is a blast to play with!

[jdkmunch]

This is truly great news - I'm going to have to get these cables somewhere.

[TZtech]

Great news. Thanks again for Next Gaming for posting the harness details and Poppo for spotting the mistake. Bunker do you still have that PE  + test rig. This setup will work on PE+ but would be nice to have confirmed test

Ian

[stayouttadabunker]

lololo!!!
Thanks to everyone that's helped...
where's the kudoman? 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/P1KZUex07oI&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/P1KZUex07oI&rel=0</a>

[stayouttadabunker]

Yes TZ,
I am setting the PE+ test rig up now as we speak!