Reel Touch /S2000 Hookup to PC (RS232)

[TZtech]

Munch

Your comms channel should be set to 3. The screen in the picture you posted. Your SAS adress is set on another screen.

Ian

[jdkmunch]

Yeah that was for bunker-  he wanted a screenshot of the slot machine throwing out 02:

If you look at the video-  you'll see it's set to channel 3

[jdkmunch]

Very sad results to report -  got the usb to serial adapter today - plugged it in and got the same results.

[poppo]

Very sad results to report -  got the usb to serial adapter today - plugged it in and got the same results.

Sorry to hear that.

So is this problem only limited to S2000 machines? Has anyone with a S2000 (and the newer version app) gotten it to work?

I have used both built in serial ports and USB adapters on both of my S+ machines with no problem.

[jdkmunch]

S2000, I-Game+ and 044 are all a no go.

[poppo]

S2000, I-Game+ and 044 are all a no go.

For everyone? I thought I read a post that someone had it working. But maybe that was the original version or something else.

[jdkmunch]

TZ has reported that has his working with a usb adapter -

FDi chipset or something -  the problem is different usb adapters have different chipsets.   I got mine for $4 on ebay so im sure it's of the highest quality. 

[poppo]

Very sad results to report -  got the usb to serial adapter today - plugged it in and got the same results.

Maybe a silly question but did you check the com port number that was assigned to the USB adapter and use that?

[jdkmunch]

in Winblows device manager - it shows up as a usb to serial adapter  - also I can monitor the communications using the I-Game's communication diagnostic tool.  I can see that the slot sees communication from the pc, answers but the test app doesn't answer back. 

[poppo]

in Winblows device manager - it shows up as a usb to serial adapter  - also I can monitor the communications using the I-Game's communication diagnostic tool.  I can see that the slot sees communication from the pc, answers but the test app doesn't answer back.  

But you have to tell the app which com port you are using. I noticed your picture you posted earlier you have com port 2 selected. That is not the same as the SAS address (which is the poll address). You need to go into device manager, and look under - Ports (Com and LPT) and see what number it assigned to the adapter. Then use that number for the comm port on the app. Unless that is what you already did.

[Foster]

It works with the S2000 with USB to Serial adapter(configured as COM3)
It will not work with the S2000 using COM1 all I get the is 01:
I know com1 and com3 share an IRQ but disconnected the usb to serial adapter to see if that made a difference, still would not work.

[poppo]

It works with the S2000 with USB to Serial adapter(configured as COM3)
It will not work with the S2000 using COM1 all I get the is 01:
I know com1 and com3 share an IRQ but disconnected the usb to serial adapter to see if that made a difference, still would not work.

I just want to be sure he is setting the right things. As I noted above, when he posted pictures it was the comm port he changed to 2, not the SAS address on the app. It may still not work, but if his USB adapter is set to com 3, he needs to set the the app to com 3 making sure the SAS address (poll) number is the same on the machine as the app.

[Foster]

I am saying that is how the TestApp is working with my system and S2000.

[poppo]

I am saying that is how the TestApp is working with my system and S2000.

Yes. What is puzzling though (again going back to the pictures he posted). He has the SAS address set to 2 on the machine, the poll address set to 1 on the app, and the comm port set to 2 on the app. I'm surprised he got any reply at all. I even double checked to make sure that Comm port on the app means the PC serial port number, and the Poll Address on the app means the SAS address, which they do.

He needs to make sure the SAS address on the machine and app match. And that the Com port on the app matches the com port Windows assigned to the adapter. If they don't all match it certainly won't work. It still may not work, but those things need to all be set right.

[stayouttadabunker]

Hey guys...On the S2000, are you all using the straight thru serial harness or the S+ modified one?
I'm trying to get it going right now using the TestApp.

[Foster]

I am using a straight harness since the S2000 has RS232.

[stayouttadabunker]

I am using a straight harness since the S2000 has RS232.

I am too Foster...thanks for the verify.
I'm going try it again.
I'll keep in touch with a wireless laptop and give you an update.
My S2000's in another room...

[jdkmunch]

It works with the S2000 with USB to Serial adapter(configured as COM3)
It will not work with the S2000 using COM1 all I get the is 01:
I know com1 and com3 share an IRQ but disconnected the usb to serial adapter to see if that made a difference, still would not work.

You might a USB adapter that somehow has the magic sauce in it.
My cables are straight through.

[poppo]

Hey guys...On the S2000, are you all using the straight thru serial harness or the S+ modified one?

What is this S+ modified cable you speak of?    I'm using a straight through cable on my S+

[jdkmunch]

I think bunker is talking about the max232 interface.  I though that was only needed if your s+ didn't have a communication board.

[poppo]

I think bunker is talking about the max232 interface.  I though that was only needed if your s+ didn't have a communication board.

Even the S+ factory communication board can use a straight through cable. The board just has a different connector on it. I just have a female DB9 going to J2 on it.  So whether I use the MAX232 adapter thing or this board, I use a straight through cable.

BTW did you check all of those port numbers I mentioned earlier?

[stayouttadabunker]

yes poppo,
I meant the MAX232 serial cable you made.
I made one today for the S+ but I ran out of time to test it.
I will update in the morning.

For the S2000, I'm just using the straight thru serial cable configuration.
I'm testing in a few minutes...

[jdkmunch]

Yes I double checked com port and sas address - all good

[Foster]

Poppo I wonder if it would be best to implement RS485 over 4 wires (2 Twisted Pair) or use 2 wire instead.
The RS485 interface in the S2000 Comm board is using 4 wire for TX/RX and 4 more for DTR, DCD (which may or may not be needed)

I have attached the 2 schematics I have for your reference. J81, the LTc491 chips and related components in that area are for RS485 from what I can tell.

[poppo]

Poppo I wonder if it would be best to implement RS485 over 4 wires (2 Twisted Pair) or use 2 wire instead.
The RS485 interface in the S2000 Comm board is using 4 wire for TX/RX and 4 more for DTR, DCD (which may or may not be needed)

I have attached the 2 schematics I have for your reference. J81, the LTc491 chips and related components in that area are for RS485 from what I can tell.

I don't see J81 on the actual schematic. However, I notice that J82 labeled RS232 is using the RTS and CTS lines. Is that the connector you are using? If so, I thought Andy said that there was no hardware handshaking being used. If the S2000 is expecting it (proper handshaking), that could cause timing issues and lack of responces from the machine.  

As for RS485, I will admit that I really don't know enough about it to comment.

Also, I am just doing a lot of guessing on the S2000 since I don't have one, and have only been going by schematics.