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« on: March 16, 2011, 01:12:07 PM »
What are the capabilities of the ChamII? I know it is capable of text messages when programmed through PSP.
Do these work only in idle mode? Can it be set to switch back and forth between the jackpot amount and a msg
during gameplay?  Can the entire display be set to flip/scroll etc while the amount is incrementing?

I am still reading up on PSP and how to use it. Plus I am in the process of gathering what I need to make the RS232 cable.
Any advice on where to look, what to try etc would be greatly appreciated.  Help    Hail  Hail  Hail
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
Quote from: Magicslots on March 16, 2011, 01:12:07 PM
What are the capabilities of the ChamII? I know it is capable of text messages when programmed through PSP.
Do these work only in idle mode? Can it be set to switch back and forth between the jackpot amount and a msg
during gameplay?  Can the entire display be set to flip/scroll etc while the amount is incrementing?

I am still reading up on PSP and how to use it. Plus I am in the process of gathering what I need to make the RS232 cable.
Any advice on where to look, what to try etc would be greatly appreciated.  Help    Hail  Hail  Hail


You can program a scrolling message with the jackpot amount-Yes

I would work on getting familiar with the psp and jackpot programming first(being this is your first time)
before you tackle the scrolling message stuff it's a bit of a hair puller
check the Mikohn threads for programming the message.

Tim


This thread might be of some help on the message programming
but do yourself a favor and start with the basic setup and getting it to work in the machine first.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=184.0
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 03:46:12 PM »
Hi Magic,
Do you have the ChamII or the ChamII+.
There's a difference.
Also, what machine are you installing this unit in?
Why not post a nice clear picture of the white label on the board?
I'm NOT convinced you have what you think you have.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 03:59:08 PM »
Quote from: stayouttadabunker on March 16, 2011, 03:46:12 PM
Do you have the ChamII or the ChamII+.
There's a difference.
Also, what machine are you installing this unit in?
Why not post a nice clear picture of the white label on the board?
I'm NOT convinced you have what you think you have.

From the pictures I saw it was the +
and from what I read he wants to install it in a S2000

Tim


My bad that picture I saw was another member we were helping jer3270  frying pan frying pan frying pan frying pan
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 09:54:24 PM »
O.K. heres the deal. It is indeed a ChamII. Bought the S2K from Jim at Betterslots with the onboard
progressive.  He had it working, then it quit.  Couldnt figure it out, but he was swamped with work  Duh!
After the shipping fiasco, ( I'll tell that in another post) It would display the jackpot, but not increment.
After working with Jim and Mark, turns out it was a bad/loose com wire.
It is working now, I have even learned how to access the menus using the onboard buttons.  I have changed the font and the
odspeed several times.  Still hunting what I want.

I bought the parts and built the serial RS232 cable for the PSP program today.  Will try to test/play with it this evening.
I have an old IBM laptop to put the PSP on.
Anyway...heres the pic :

* cham2.JPG (107.98 KB, 800x600 - viewed 363 times.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 10:33:28 PM »
That is definitely a Cham II+ for stand alone progressive, your S2000 will think it is a linked progressive.
What I mean by stand alone is that the Cham II+ is the progressive controller and display controller, the display driver is on the small board on the back of the dispaly.
Where a Cham II would need a Con 2I to function as  progressive system and does not have J7 on it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 01:25:13 AM »
Found this in another thread here.  Is the ChamII+ capable of these kind of graphics?
They would look awsome on my TD Red Hot Strike!!!  yes yes yes

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=5316.msg46304#msg46304
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 02:17:16 AM »
whoo boy!
That's a winter project in which springtime came too soon!  Thank God! lol
I didn't get back into it as I distinctly remember I had more hair on my head before I got into that stuff... bust gut laughing

You have a LOT more reading to do before you can make those  animations!
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 02:31:40 AM »
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You have a LOT more reading to do before you can make those  animations!

Oh I realize that. In fact its probably way beyond what I will ever be able to do!  frying pan

As it is right now I would be very happy with something simple like a text msg that  says:

The Jackpot is now:      and then the current amount pops back up

But I have a feeling even that is gonna take this dumb old man a while to figure out  Crazy
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 02:36:09 AM »
You notice with the PSP program... you CAN change the rotating messages.
In fact you can type in about 4 or 5 different jackdos and they will all return to the progressive incrementing display.
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 02:49:47 AM »
Do I need to switch the configuration switch S2 to program mode before I plug in the RS232 cable?
And then start PSP? I take it the PSP program is only for programming and will not/should not be running while the game
is in play?  Scratch Head
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 02:58:01 AM »
No,
The PSP can be plugged in all the time if you wish.
It's been awhile since I've played with these...best to keep a manual on your lap...  yes
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 03:00:14 AM »
Thanks Mark. I hope to get around to some serious experimenting with it soon.
Will the PSP program show real time data of what is occurring with the unit??
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 03:04:56 AM »
PSP does not monitor what the Cham II+ is doing, you can read the current values of the progressive by pressing LOAD, on the jackpot program is about it.
It is designed to program the controller and not be used continuously.
You can leave it plugged into the computer and psp running there is no real need to do so.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 03:09:13 AM »
 Hail Hail
Thank you Sir, I haven't messed around with DOS based stuff in a looong time  Silly Me!
I used to be really good at it, But as time goes by the adage of "once you learn how to ride a bicycle..etc etc"
doesn't seem to hold up with my feeble mind  Tongue Out
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2011, 03:40:59 AM »
Quote from: Magicslots on March 17, 2011, 01:25:13 AM
Found this in another thread here.  Is the ChamII+ capable of these kind of graphics?
They would look awsome on my TD Red Hot Strike!!!  yes yes yes

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=5316.msg46304#msg46304


No. That is a Supreme controller with a 1x3 display. Totally different hardware and uses a different software package to program it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 03:46:40 AM »
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No. That is a Supreme controller with a 1x3 display. Totally different hardware and uses a different software package to program it.

I had a feeling that would be the answer....oh well.  I need to learn to crawl before I can dance  Cry Laughing
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 05:58:11 AM »
You'll never be able to get those kind of graphics on the ChamII+.  Here are a couple of videos of about the most you can do with a ChamII+ (the first one is mine, the second is another NLG member).

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ag94RWzZF2k&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ag94RWzZF2k&rel=0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3379SPwYZFg&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/3379SPwYZFg&rel=0</a>

Be sure to read up on the other posts here in the Mikohn category about how to interface your computer with the controller so we don't need to reinvent the wheel in this thread.  One of the key things to note is that when you want to upload new data to the device, it generally will only take right after a reboot (power cycle) of the ChamII+.  In other words, when you're ready to upload, pull the plug on the meter, wait a second or two, then plug it back in.  As soon as it finishes its boot sequence and shows you the jackpot amount on the display, then upload from the computer for the best chance of it actually working.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 02:49:52 AM »
Well I have partial success with PSP.  I finally found out that PSP was defaulting to com1 port, and my old laptop was com2.
I can now get it to reset the Jackpot amount and the %.
 Scratch Head Now if I can just figure out the crap I need to do to get the message files working.  It's me. I am slow learner quite often idea light bulb
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