Bally 5500 with a 145

[ronr11]

Got the color code and pinout from Jack at JCM and a head from Rudy,  it will power up but the bills won't load all the way in,stops about 1/2 way.
 It also won't stack ,but I figure thats because the bill isn't loading all the way. Can it be the transport is bad?  Thanks Ron

[paul]

what kind of machine and does the head have an eprom or flash look in bottom and see if you see a regular size eprom

[ronr11]

Hey Paul,Thanks for reply, it's a Bally Double Jackpot Triple 7's with a DVB 145 SG HEAD, I don't see a eprom on the bottom only a set of switches

[paul]

Dip switches  I think 1 to 7 are off 8 is on in first bank and 1 is on in second bank and 2 is off will check

[ronr11]

 Thanks Paul, The head I got from Rudys has the switches all set off and this is how my original one is set also,This did work at one time till I rewired the 11 pin connector from the transport/stacker. I double checked to make sure wires are correct and checked continuity to each sensor tro make sure they are soldered . Sometimes the bill will go in far enough to add credits but never goes all the way.  Ron

[paul]

Try and set the 8 dip in on or up posistion this dip is what tells the head if its 044 or 045 and try that then set the 1st switch in second bank to on this is what tells if you have a transport or not

[ronr11]

Hey Paul, tried switch 8 on and bill head is dead, then tried switch 1 on and it lights up and  will allow bill to just go past the head and stop. Thanks Ron

[paul]

The switches on head like switch 1 is for accepting 1 dollar bills it should be off switch 2 is for 2 dollar bills 3 is for 5 dollar 4 is for 10 ect they are in the off posistion to accept no 8 should be on for IDO 45 what do you mean no 8 is dead what does it say on the lable on the head what is the IDO

[ronr11]

When I turned on? switch #8 the acceptor lites don't come on and won't accept bills. The top saysDBV 145-SG-LRSA-SBRO if that helps.  Thanks Paul,  Ron

[paul]

on the mpu board dip switch bank 2 is 5 0n and 6 off

[ronr11]

Just checked, Paul, they are set right.I noticed the bills don't seen to stick, it just looks like the head is not running long enough to pull the bills in all the way.

[stayouttadabunker]

Clean the head's eye optics with a solution of warm soapy water and a Q-Tip.
Do NOT use any alcohol-based cleaners!
Also, check the belts and see if they're not full of greasy, gummy black dirt-infested gunk.
If so, clean the belts with the same warm, soapy water and a Q-Tip swab.

[ronr11]

Hey guys, cleaned and adjusted the belts on the head and transporter,also removed the optics and cleaned them as Bunker suggested still will only go in 1/2 way .Is it possible I'm missing some voltage as the stacker motor won't work,should it reset when the game powers up? There is very little info out there that I've been able to find.I see the motor operates on 24 volts but any idea where to check? Thanks again Ron

[paul]

what part of the country do you live

[ronr11]

North Carolina

[ronr11]

Hey Paul, I used to live in Cincy,I see your north of there above Columbus, I bought this machine from a guy in London,It plays well but I never could get the acceptor to work right. I miss my white castles and skyline

[AnotherTech]

It sounds like a bad transport.  Both the bill head and the transport should go through a power on self test when the game is turned on.  If the transport isn't cycling, like it is pushing a bill down, and then come back up, then it may be bad. 

Power and signals all come through the head.  A bad head can cause the same symptoms, but it's more often the transport, or at least it has been for me. 

It is much easier to troubleshoot if you have a complete working machine to test things on.  Just because you get another part, doesn't necessarily mean it's good, especially when you're talking about 15+ year old stuff.

I wouldn't buy another DBV-145.  If you need a new head, a DBV-200 is a direct replacement if you have a vented power supply, and is a much better head.  (and if you don't have a vented power supply, that is a direct replacement, too)

[ronr11]

Thanks guys, the stacker white gear does not turn when I power it up. The head I got from Rudys and it does the same thing as mine. Whats the chance of finding a transport? Ron

[StatFreak]

Don't rule out the harness. I've seen such erratic behavior with a harness that had intermittent breaks inside the wires.

[ronr11]

Thanks again for all your help, I just took the connectors from the board and the head and tested for breaks and all wires seem ok,Does anyone have any idea what wires (color or pin) that feed 24 volts to the head as the stacker don't run during test or powerup? I supplied 12 volts to the 10 and 11 pins and the motor works .Ron