Game King Video Slot to PC (SAS RS232)

[Foster]

Great work!

I wonder if that will work on the S+ (may not matter mine is up for sale - you come and get it)
How about reading accounting data or ticket validation (only for home use)

[dpalmi]

I've seen that before.
I have a manual for it too...
I don't know really if it will work though... 

Hello!

I did buy 2 of them and have received them.  Can you send me a copy of the manuals you have?  That would be great! 

Dan #2

[stayouttadabunker]

 

[AndyP]

Great work!

I wonder if that will work on the S+ (may not matter mine is up for sale - you come and get it)
How about reading accounting data or ticket validation (only for home use)

I looked at some photos of an S+ on the web. Looks like what IGT marketed as a 'GameKing' here in Australia. I have a Gameking, but it does not have any SAS software. If anyone knows where I can get a CHEAP mainboard with a SAS game let me know. Not sure it would work, but willing to give it a go if the cost is not prohibitive.

[stayouttadabunker]

There's almost no resemblance between an S+ and a Game King
other than they both may have a handle to pull...

You can probably get an S+ MPU board for about $15-$20 US on
the internet ( ebay for example) or from any of our vendors listed at top.
I really don't know what a Game King MPU board goes for
so I'll leave that up to the experts on GK's.

Both MPU boards are capable of processing SAS signals I'm sure and
I think just about any game chip will have the options for SAS in the settings.

[jay]

S+ = 3 reel slot - 1990's vintage.

From the outside the S2000 closely resembles a S+ but the speakers are by the player tracking bar.... but that is where the resembalance ends.

Its my understanding that the S2000, Vision, and Gameking all use the same motherboard but with different software.
The motherboard is nothing like the S+

The PE+ (video poker - same vintage as S+), S+ both needed a extra chip to make SAS work. I am sure the gameking is similar.
I really doubt that you need a different motherboard just the one chip.

April (leemans sliot sales) - her emal address is in her ebay add would probably have the chip as her company does mostly professional sales to overseas casinos.

[AndyP]

Yup, no worries. Can you tell I write the software  

Reeled slots are pretty rare in AU.

I might just have to work with a volunteer tester from here to make it work! PM me if you want to do the testing. I cant tell you how to set up SAS on the slot, so need someone who already knows. Also, a victim with a wide variety of machines would be great. If you have c#.net experience even better.

I am going to TRY and wrap up the test app and dll into an installer later this week. At this point still only going to be polling for exceptions and maybe some game config stuff. Might be a few weeks before I have anything usable.

[jay]

I don't know a whole lot about SAS but I had heard that they use RS485 as the comunication protocol (I could be dead wrong about this).


The benefit of RS485 vs RS232 is that it can be used as a multidrop.
Using a single communication link - this is where you can daisy chain a bunch of machines and each machine has its own address.

This was common for things like security cameras for PTZ (Pan Tilt Zoom) control albiet the newer cameras are now sharing the Coax cable (coaxitron protocol) for this control.

The other advantage for the casino is that you won't get a kid with a PC hacking their control signals at least easily.
RS485 is also used for industrial controls like PLCs (Programable logic controllers). 

[AndyP]

I don't know a whole lot about SAS but I had heard that they use RS485 as the comunication protocol (I could be dead wrong about this).

The benefit of RS485 vs RS232 is that it can be used as a multidrop.
Using a single communication link - this is where you can daisy chain a bunch of machines and each machine has its own address.

The other advantage for the casino is that you won't get a kid with a PC hacking their control signals at least easily.
RS485 is also used for industrial controls like PLCs (Programable logic controllers). 

The protocol remains the same regardless of the hardware. However you are correct in saying that rs232 cant be multidropped. To use the dll with 485 or fibre you will need a converter.

[AndyP]

Hi.

Thank you for you replies. I have managed to connect my slot to PC through JB2 (J82) connector on slot comm board and I can issue general and long pools using SAS Tester application. Now I am developing my application in C# to try to get simple counters like (current game credits etc...). Until now I have implemented general pool which is sending 80 and 81 commands alternating every 40 ms, and I am getting response 00 from slot (No Activity). Problem appears when I try to send command like 01 1A + CRC (get current credits) and I am not getting any response from slot. From SAS documentation I have found out that I need to control wakeup bit (or parity bit), and that is impossible using C# and its SerialPort (correct me if I am wrong). Zoki, I would appreciate if you can tell me how did you managed to control it.

Here is my code in C# regarding serial communication:

private SerialPort port = new SerialPort("COM1", 19200, Parity.None, 8);
        public MainForm()
        {
            InitializeComponent();
            port.DataReceived += new SerialDataReceivedEventHandler(port_DataReceived);
            port.Open();
            port.RtsEnable = true;
            port.DtrEnable = true;
        }
        private void sendPoolButton_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
        {
            port.Write(new byte[] { 0x01, 0x1A, 0x03, 0xA6 }, 0, 4);
        }

Thank you.

Just on this one, it may be possible by doing something like this:

            SerialPort port = new SerialPort("COM1",19200,Parity.Space,8);
            port.Open();

            byte[] buffer = new byte[] { 0x01, 0x1A, 0x03, 0xA6 };

            port.Parity = Parity.Mark;
            port.Write(buffer, 0, 1);
            port.Parity = Parity.Space;
            port.Write(buffer, 1, 3);

[zocky]

HI I'am back !!!

[stayouttadabunker]

Hey zocky,
where you been?
We have been working on this thing
but you've been outtada picture?   

[davinci]

Hi there,

i have a IGT Buffet Mania.
Can anybody please tell me how to connect SAS on this machine?
I would be very happy getting a manual with schematics
Also some simulation software would be very nice.
Thank you.
Regards,

[reho33]

there is a whole thread under  "Homebrew and Player Tracking Systems" that you should read. We don't talk about software on this forum, especially software that is not ours to distribute, that is the rule.

[davinci]

Sorry for that.
I  found the threads but i don't seem to get it right.
Btw i do not have a original sas interface in the machine.
So i don't know if J4 and J9 are the correct connections on
backplane of motherboard.
Thank you for helping. 

[almafuerte]

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[Fatlonder]

This is shematic diagram how connect PC and GM

Hi Zocky how did you switch from rs 232 to smib interface i didnt get clearly the schema you post. if you want to connect more then one SM you need to specify for each SM own communication.