Closure MB won't clear

[Buzz]

Kevin  LOOK at the pictures. I opened the door took one picture, closed the door and took another picture.  Do you see anywhere in the second picture that the door has been opened. With out ever touching the power switch. I close the door ,door open display on VFD goes out and candle goes out.  Look at the credits on the machine and the position of the reel strips , you can see I have not played a game !   Must be just some of this FU software they make us use on the West Coast !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CaptainHappy]

Doesn't "MB" mean "Middle Belly" door? 
Exactly what is "MB"?

Bunker,

M is for Main Door (This is Main or Belly actually)
B is for Bill Door

CH

[Foster]

Doesn't "MB" mean "Middle Belly" door?  
Exactly what is "MB"?

IF you see "DOOR OPEN MB" that means that both the Main Door and BV doors are open.

On my S200 with Enhanced MPU and SG 598 when I close the Main Door I do see Closure M for a split second (just long enough if I blinked I would not see it)

[cowboygames]

Yeah, I'm just getting that closure M and RESTART that come up on the VFD along with the INSERT COIN and Play 3 Credits messages. I used a 224 clear chip, but that shouldn't matter, I got the 2 lights and all settings in the menus were reset. If it was a top box problem the VFD would indicate that, I've seen it before. I what would "fix" it, but I've got to much money in it for that

[Foster]

Go and make the 2 green wires for the BV door are not pinched against the chassis or shorting to ground in anyway.
Very easy pinch the wires if you have removed the inner chassis of the BV and re-installed it.

A while back I recommended that if you are opening the BV door and removing the cash can regularly do not bypass the BV switch
reason being is with switch in place and not bypassed:
1 Machine detects the BV door open
2 Cash can removed (BV reports it to the machine)
3 Cash can re-inserted (BV reports it to the machine)
4 Machine detects BV door closed
Doing so allows code in the BV and machine to run in proper sequence to enable BV properly.

If you keep the BV door switch closed/bypassed, I noticed it took longer for mine to be enabled and sometimes it would not enable until I did a Bill Test.

[cowboygames]

I disabled and removed the BV I really don't know what else to do. All I've got is that damn closure m and restart and I've changed everything but the sg chips. If I had an extra set I'd of done that already too which means that's probably what it is. Coinless mode is disabled and the machine reacts to signals from it, something else has to be holding it out

[stayouttadabunker]

Time to do a full Clear?


( oh, Blueridge is going to love this!.... )

[StatFreak]

I disabled and removed the BV I really don't know what else to do. All I've got is that damn closure m and restart and I've changed everything but the sg chips. If I had an extra set I'd of done that already too which means that's probably what it is. Coinless mode is disabled and the machine reacts to signals from it, something else has to be holding it out

While it's clear from Buzz and Knagl's posts that some chips display the closure message while others do not, the important part to take away is that those messages are not tilts or error codes. There is clearly something wrong, but it's almost certainly not any of the door switches.

[Foster]

Is the theme a reel touch theme and how many reels?
I am asking because maybe putting a 1270 or 50x with a basic 3 reel game from known good working machine might determine if it a mpu issue or something with the wiring in machine.
also when you switched the motherboards to go from the 1270 to 50x board did you make sure you put the 3 SENET connectors in the proper connectors on the motherboard.
top box is spare senet, door to door and cabinet to cabinet.

[cowboygames]

It's a 3 reel s2000/barcrest, Money Mad Martians.I changed from the 1270 board back to a 504 when I couldn't overcome this problem earlier today. Senet plugs are all correct. Absolutely EVERY board in this machine has been swapped for known good boards and the problem hasn't changed. I even took Buzz's advice and opened and closed the door about 50 times in a row in case it had stacked issues. I've double checked all wiring and reseated MPU and IO boards.I've wiggled and picked at the wiring harness along it's lengh to make sure nothing was shorting to something else and followed all plugs(and reseated) to make sure that if they weren't plugged in that they weren't suppose to be and if they weren't suppose to be then that they weren't shorting against something. I've actually been pretty thorough, might have to reward myself with a crown and coke or 3 or more

[cowboygames]

Time to do a full Clear?


( oh, Blueridge is going to love this!.... )

lol! Been there done that and Jim would be proud of how little good it did. Even swapped the ram chips a bit ago to force a hard reset

[Foster]

Sounds like the closest member needs to come visit you and help you get it doing.

[Buzz]

Rob  which SG chips are you using and do you have another set in a different machine ?? Did you test the spare SB100464 and make sure it was good when you got it ??

[zarobhr]

would coinless mode being enabled prevent coins from being used?

[cowboygames]

I did Jim and as far as I can tell it works great, it's in there now, thank you. The SGs are SG000138's. As far as I know they are the only ones you can use with this theme and those I don't have any backups for. At least I know NOW that 362's, 363's and 597's DON'T work LOL, it's been a long day I do have an update though. I re-installed the BV(for the third time) and the machine accepts and plays fine on paper money, but the coin comparitor still doesn't work. That earns me a free drink though Wish I knew what the hells going on with the coin mech.

[cowboygames]

would coinless mode being enabled prevent coins from being used?

coinless mode is disabled

[Buzz]

Sounds like the closest member needs to come visit you and help you get it doing.

Foster Strange you said that, I think that will be you or TJ and I don't recall him having any S 2000.        It's only 174.7 miles

[staz]

can door optics cause that? or a battery issue?

[cowboygames]

Sorry, I misread who sent the prvious post, this has been corrected.
Staz, both could cause it, but checked and eliminated

[Foster]

Sounds like the closest member needs to come visit you and help you get it doing.

Foster Strange you said that, I think that will be you or TJ and I don't recall him having any S 2000.        It's only 174.7 miles

well unless he has moved it says 817 miles from my local to his in AZ

[cowboygames]

Sounds like the closest member needs to come visit you and help you get it doing.

Foster Strange you said that, I think that will be you or TJ and I don't recall him having any S 2000.        It's only 174.7 miles

That's right Buzz, I forgot Foster's a Greenie. The wife's a hell of a cook if you're ever in the area Foster:)

[cowboygames]

Sounds like the closest member needs to come visit you and help you get it doing.

Foster Strange you said that, I think that will be you or TJ and I don't recall him having any S 2000.        It's only 174.7 miles

well unless he has moved it says 817 miles from my local to his in AZ

I got it Buzz

[stayouttadabunker]

Well,
You did good Cowboy!
You got the paper route working...
now it's just a matter of time but I'm sure you'll get the coins to work too.

It's strange though that the BV would work after it did NOT work the 1st two times huh?
Picky, picky machine you have there!


You might as well try swapping out the coin mech -
you've swapped everything else! 
It might work on the 3rd time?!?!

[cowboygames]

Lol, swapped the coin mech and bracket and solenoid and optics 3 hours ago
Sent out a round of karma for all who've participated in todays practice in frustration too Thanks everyone for your help, hope I can gret this coin thing figured out in due course.

[CaptainHappy]

Lol, swapped the coin mech and bracket and solenoid and optics 3 hours ago
Sent out a round of karma for all who've participated in todays practice in frustration too Thanks everyone for your help, hope I can gret this coin thing figured out in due course.

I can't help any more that everyone else has, other than some virtual:
Just don't drink the waiting for the Martians to arrive and save you!

  for your patience and effort! Good Karma is on your side and your machine will work the way you wan't it eventually! (Otherwise I will have to punish it and take it and it's problems away from you! )

CH