series e 2270 bally's slot

[hardluck35]

I have a series  e 2270 4 reel, 3 coin 1 line slot that am unable to pull the handle and reels will not spin.  pay off light stays lit.  Accepts
coins, have tried resetting to no avail.  Code is 50.0.000  Any suggestions.  thanks.

[Amachanic]

Hello and     I have a few questions.... First was the machine working or did you get it this way? You said that you tried resetting the machine, did you use the reset key or the buttons on the hopper control board? The code 50 is a code that will display once the doors been opened, so that's normal.. One of the first things I would check are the fuses located on my back wall behind the hopper... Do you have a manual for your machine?

Gary

[hardluck35]

I purchased this slot in 1996, mother board and board that controls hopper were replaced about 10 years ago by company we purchased from but is no longer in business.  Has worked perfectly until about one month ago when our son and friends said the handle was so hard to pull and now is unable to be pulled.  As you suggested I checked the fuses today, all ok; used buttons on hopper board to reset, actually don't
see/have a reset key.  I have manual but doesn't give any info on how to work on problems; has diagrams of panels and section with what codes
mean.  Thanks for your help

[Amachanic]

Thanks for the machines history.. From what you have told me I believe your problem lies with the handles plunger assembly. That has a steel piston inside with a rubber cupped end. What happens over time is that that rubber turn into a black tar and gums up the inside of the assembly making the piston inside very hard to move or even stops its movement.. The plunger assembly is located on the right side of the reels. They are usually a tan color and held on by 4 Phillips screws. The linkage is held on by whats called and e-clip. Remove the e-clip and remove the linkage pin, the 4 Phillips screw, now you should have the plunger assemble off. Now what you need to do is get the piston out of the tan cylinder by pulling on the u-shaped linkage. If your is frozen your going to have to take some WD40 or a paint thinner solvent to dissolve what was the rubber cup on the end of the piston. Once you finally get it apart clean up the inside of the cylinder and the piston, remove and throw away that sticky piece of rubber. There is a small air hole in the end of the cylinder about the size of a needle that needs to be open for proper operation..Once everything is clean take some grease and put some on the piston and inside the cylinder, not too much a little goes a long way, or your going to have a mess inside your machine. Put it back on the reel assemble and connect the linkage. hopefully this will solve your handle problem... The other thing I would do is oil up the handle linkage on the inside right of the cabinet.. I have attached a pic of where this is...

Gary

[proten]

Here is a break down of the plunger assembly.

[hardluck35]

thanks for your help.  You were correct the plunger assembly was in dire need of cleaning, the handle now pulls  but it seems like #32 in diagram does not go in far enough when
handle is pulled to trip the reels to spin.  They (reels) cycle correctly when assembly #32 is pushed in by hand.  Is there an adjustment that can be made on this or any other suggestions
Again, thank you for your help.

[proten]

Here is the adjusting instructions

[proten]

Last two

But if it was working before and no one has messed with the adjustments,
then it must not have been put back together right.

[Amachanic]

thanks for your help.  You were correct the plunger assembly was in dire need of cleaning, the handle now pulls  but it seems like #32 in diagram does not go in far enough when
handle is pulled to trip the reels to spin.  They (reels) cycle correctly when assembly #32 is pushed in by hand.  Is there an adjustment that can be made on this or any other suggestions
Again, thank you for your help.

Check the bolt that holds the actuating lever and the pull handle is tight. This is the lever that the roller bearing on the second half gear on the side of the reel mech slides into when you put the reels back in. I had one machine doing something similar once and found that long bolt that goes throughout the handle mech was loose. Once tightened my problem went away. Could have happened when the handle was pull harder to make the machine work.

[smito01]

thanks for your help.  You were correct the plunger assembly was in dire need of cleaning, the handle now pulls  but it seems like #32 in diagram does not go in far enough when
handle is pulled to trip the reels to spin.  They (reels) cycle correctly when assembly #32 is pushed in by hand.  Is there an adjustment that can be made on this or any other suggestions
Again, thank you for your help.

Check the bolt that holds the actuating lever and the pull handle is tight. This is the lever that the roller bearing on the second half gear on the side of the reel mech slides into when you put the reels back in. I had one machine doing something similar once and found that long bolt that goes throughout the handle mech was loose. Once tightened my problem went away. Could have happened when the handle was pull harder to make the machine work.

My problem is similar. The actuating arm( p/n p-6288 ?) attached to the long bolt has broken and will not activate the cam. Does anyone know of a source for this part? I would hate to have to fabricate this piece.
Thank you,
Tom

[proten]

Here is one


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLY-SLOT-MACHINE-Actuating-Arm-P-6288-/150490027585?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2309e79641

[hardluck35]

Have been attempting various methods to enlarge diagrams of untitled 1,2, 3, & 4 photos on adjustment instructions that you gave but am still unable to read as it is really  blurred and only becomes worse with enlarging on computer which I thought would work.  Are these diagrams in a repair booklet that can be purchased somewhere, if so the name please and again thanks for your help.

[Amachanic]

The book I have is from Liberty Belle Books. Bally Slot Machines, The complete service manual for E-Series 1980-1986, by Marshall Fey. You should be able to buy one on Ebay or a Amazon.. Thats where the pages with the adjustment can be found...

Gary

[smito01]

Thank you all for the information on the E series machines. I did a voltage check on the battery and the reading is very low. My question, will the effect play? If it needs to be replaced will the chips need to be reprogrammed and if so what do I need to do? I'd like to stay away from re-soldering a new battery. Bad experiences cooking circuit boards in the past! Thank you again for your help. This has been a good experience for my 13 year old son and I.

[proten]

The battery is a nicad and is recharged when the machine is on.
Turn on the machine and check the voltage to make sure its
charging. Then leave it on to recharge the battery.

P.S. Look close for leaking battery - acid damage.

Down load the pictures to blow them up to read.

[hardluck35]

thank you, thank you.   After purchasing Bally Slot Machines -Series E 1980-1986= well worth the money.
Looked behind the nut (figure O) to see if acturator was worn off, our's was; after repair and after drive shaft
adjusted.  It works.   Thanks, and thanks to our wonderful neighbor who worked on our slot.  Good luck to
others.

[hardluck35]

Slot machine Bally's Series E2270 4 reel, 3 coin worked fine for several plays; then today tried to play-slot worked
for a couple plays - then Reels #1-2 worked however Reel #3 would not spin at all and Reel #4 kept spinning-went to tilt; Code 43 showing; tried to reset with reset button- did not work.  Any suggestions, thanks.

[Amachanic]

Sounds like you might need to pull the reels assembly out and lubricate the linkage and levers under the reels. There are levers and linkages that kick the reels to spin and solenoid that stop them. There is a small rod/shaft about 3/16" that has levers on it. Make sure they can be moved side to side. The oil drys up on those then the reels won't work because can't pivot. Just had the same problem on a machine here.

[hardluck35]

After lubricating the linkage and levers am still having trouble with reel #3 not spinning, works for awhile then sticks,
after freeing up and sliding reel assembly back into place, hitting reset button it will work for maybe 6-10 times .
Maybe next time won't reset with reset button.  Have removed wires (plug in's) spray cleaned them, replaced and again
may work for several spins or may not.  Could it be the plug in's need repair or replaced? Any other suggestions, thanks.

[proten]

You might need to disassemble the reels on the reel shaft.
Only remove the e clips and remove the reels one at a time.
Then lube the needle brg. on both sides of the reel.
Then reassemble the reels in the reverse order you removed them.

[hardluck35]

Guess I'm confused.   Have been thinking reel #3 was not working but  as suggested disassembled the reels on the reel shaft, cleaned and lubricated bridge on each side of reels, replaced just as taken off.  The reels were labeled #1,2, 3 (Opposite of how I thought reels should be numbered) I was reading LEFT to RIGHT but according to numbers on reels they go right to left.  Which is correct? Tried to play.  This time, machine tilted as soon as handle was pulled and code 41 appeared.  Again going from LEFT to RIGHT the 3rd reel does nothing, acts as if locked and the last reel on right keeps spinning.
.   Seems like index level arm on 3rd reel from left does not trip as others do.  Any other suggestions.  Thanks.

[proten]

Code 41 is  "Improper spin reel #1"
Pull the reel assembly and work it
like if you pulled the arm.
Look for what is not working on #3 like the rest of the reels.

[hardluck35]

Still having trouble with my series 2270 slot.  When I pull the handle hard and quickly the slot works however when someone pulls the handle slowly or gently like my wife does the handle will not completely pull and then of course the reels don't function.   When this happens if we manually push the assembly mechanism inward the reels trip.  Is it possible that the piston from the plunger assembly that was removed because it was hard and gummed up is our problem because of too much play in the cylinder (item #35 and #38 in reply #4) ? Just wondering if purchasing and replacing the piston would correct our problem.  Thanks for any advice.

[Amachanic]

One of the first things I do with all of my Bally Slots I pick up Is to remove the rubber cup seal from the piston assemble.. If they are not taken care of the handle can get almost impossible to pull. I did have one machine that handle was messed up and didn't always want to spin the reels. I found that the trip lever assembly has a roll pin that holds it to the back shaft, that back shaft roll pin and hole in the shaft were worn about twice it's size and didn't allow the handle to pull and rotate the shaft far enough unless pulled hard.. It could be possible you have the same problem?? Did you go through the handle adjustment in the post 2 down from the plunger pic posting? There are a few very important adjustments to make your handle work correctly... If possible post some pics of your reel assemble, maybe theres something we can spot in a pic that's causing your problem..

Gary

[hardluck35]

Not sure I know how to attach a photo but will try.  Thanks again for any help.