Different versions of pot o gold software..please help

[wtjames]

I have always ran the 400x software and recently bought several 510 and 580 machines,and there were at factory defaults,all of them are 100$ or more I'n the negative,the 400s always Held their numbers,not sure what's going on

[Joeylc]

** bump ** can any one help this person??

[ROCKET]

What is the exact question? The software out there for pot o gold runs from 371-to 580 or 590 now. Many sets have great games. You can only run 12 games out of 16 games offered on most software sets. To do a ram clear in simple terms -if machine is locked ? Go to FACTORY SETTINGS BOX -lower Right corner of screen. Turn on both security keys + do A HARD SOFTWARE RE SET. This will put entire machine back to factory defaults. Rocket

[stayouttadabunker]

I think what he's saying is that the machine are paying out more than he wants them to?
That they are running hundreds of dollars in the red with the 500 series software? 
I know nothing about how to set these Pot of Gold machines up though...

I think he wants to set the percentage of the house hold a little tighter?

[ROCKET]

Well if he does the HARD SYSTEM re set under the factory settings box lower right of screen with both security keys enabled. This will do a basic Ram clear + return machine + all games to factory default settings. Which are low 90% pay outs + nickel denomination. He then needs to return to terminal configuration.  Then set the "credit" to whatever?  Nickel quarter etc. Then go to each game + set each game he wants active. ? Only 12 games - to what payout % + how much he can bet per game. Some are limited. All real T-340 boards I have seen don't exceed 99.00 bucks as top bet.  others are set at default tops would be a 2.50 bet etc hope this makes all understand ?  But its life + not all is simple lol 

[ROCKET]

It sounds as though on his Main Configuration screen that his "CREDIT" "VALUE" IS WAY HIGHER THAN .05 cents like up in the 1.00 or more area. You are able to set the credit value up to 999.39 why the .39 cents is beyond me? But that in itself would cause incredible high payouts.  So to cure that by itself. Or determine it ! Is notice the $ figure on each game active first. If it says .05 then he is ok - if it says $1.00 on the corner of each game on screen or higher ? Someone really messed up the settings. But if its over a .05 or .25 on the game. You just activate superviser key - go into MAIN CONFIGURATION. Enter the .05 cent credit + this will save all accounting to date. But I would do a HARD RAM CLEAR as previous mentioned then its set like it left the factory. 

[stayouttadabunker]

It looks like the newest versions of the POG software are running at $125 per set of chips
and are called "595" 's

I posted a couple of pictures below>>>

[jrrudd7]

510s are good versions of software...the one's that end with a 5, ie 585 595 are "sweepstakes" versions where they label the games as sweepstakes...but I have seen several boards go in the negative...it happens, just let them play out and now they are in the negative, they will start holding.  If you do a hard reset, you run the risk of paying out more money because they are pretty volitile when you reset them.  I reset one an it hit for $1000 and was ~$500 or $600 neative on day 1! 

Here is a POG manual on someone's website

http://www.slotsdirect.com/potofgold/Pot_of_gold_CD/Good%20POG%20Manual.pdf

[SLOT BUYER]

JAMES,
I RUN OVER 175 POG MACHINES SOME TIME THEY GET IN THE RED.
BUT ON THE OVER ALL YOU WILL MAKE MONEY GIVE IT TIME.
I HAVE SOME MACHINES THAT GET IN THE RED LIKE $2000 BUT IN TIME THEY ALLWAYS COME BACK.
IM HOLDING BETWEEN 45 TO 50% PER YEAR ON EACH MACHENE.
YOU CAN SET THE MAX WIN ON THIS MACHENE. WHAT IS YOUR MAX WIN SET AT? 
SLOT BUYER

[ROCKET]

Slot buyer is correct. They will run in the RED! Then suddenly turn around + give what we all see are the correct % payouts. As far as going over board. I have several soft wares I run. the #581 is only a TEN GAME SET. No KENO - but great graphics + bonus multipliers games.  I run the 581 often + it holds pretty darn close from the get go on ! Something to think about. ? ? As I mentioned it only has 10 games - not 16 to choose from. But great graphics + toons !   

[ROCKET]

Just a follow up the # 581 software -as mentioned only has 10 games to enter on screen vs 16 games on other software sets. The #581 does not have poker or keno. It does have 3 -line slots 8 -liner slot games. + 8 liner with bonus pot of gold symbols. After 10 pots of gold a bonus round starts. The wonderfull thing of the T-340 boards is if you never have used one ? The INFORMATION OBTAINED. By the turn of a key is INCREDIBLE. All the game statistics - hit frequency - LED Progressive sign set up + % to contribute to it per individual game.etc the boards in my opinion are far ahead of there time when made - 1995- 2001 etc on up for software etc. You could only compare it to a IGT \Unidesa "I" game slot for info that can be programmed or seen at any time. Without putting in Key chips or ram clear chips or DBV activation chips. Its all done on screen by a experienced user lol. Rocket 

[ROCKET]

Last follow up if anyone is interested in buying -Brand New pot of gold boards with software ? Single boards or 10 or more prices vary with 3 month guarantee. Send me a PM if interested. Total cost to build a cheap countertop or put in a organ donor cabinet would under 500 bucks if you pick up your own harness + pwer supply + 3m - Crt or Lcd touch screen. Or "more pricy ELO" screens can be used.

[wtjames]

its been awhile since i posted last,ive been trying to wait and see if my games would level out....no luck,i started with 510 software and got killed...then went to the current 580 i have now,still no luck...all 15 machines are paying between 85-130%...my games are setup on .25 witha jackpot base of 2.00 and max bet 2.00 the percentages on all games are all the way down,i run the place and use a remote credit box so no bill acceptor tampering,i even play after hours and win like hell...if someone loses 2-300 on a game i can almost always sit down when they leave and win it all back,most players can play .25 all day on 20.00...im almost broke and desperate...i cant figure how all 15 machines are doing the same thing? i bought them all used,is there anyway it could be a harness problem or the boards? im truly stumped!!! any feedback is greatly appreciated...im attaching 2 terminal audit tickes so you can see whats going on...thanks in advance

[ROCKET]

Hi James.            I know we spoke at length about the trouble + solutions. The "Black Box" that links these machines together ? Would be my suspect ! To look into. Not knowing what it does completely? On my end. Gives me thoughts of some internal setting?  I would set each machine up standalone. I bet you have no trouble. Its not software etc to use 400 -500 software its something telling the over all % out put of linked machines to pay out eratic ? Just a good common sense guess. If your setting up machines + saving info entered etc.   

[wtjames]

The credit box has been on my mind awhile...there all set as single machines but the box has a bill acceptor and 15 switches...there actually toggle switches and say you want 20.00 on machine 3 you would flip the toggle labeled 3 and insert the 20.00 and it adds credit to the machine through the coin in...every game is hooked to that box...also there's 2 wires going from the box to every machine and they are tied into the harness at the coin in wires,I've thought that was the problem for awhile but I couldn't think of a logical reason it would effect the payrate...but I have switched software,and checked all my boards,I have several different brands,a few are actually real leisure time boards a few are us games boards but they are all doing the same thing,the only common link is the credit box...I think I will hook up a few bill acceptors and unhook the box and see what happens...does that sound like a good plan? And thanks for the help rocket

[ROCKET]

That BOX in diff form has caused Wars for centuries. LOL. The leisure time boards + U S gaming are the same co. Etc just diff year production run. The knock off boards I told you my opinion was - better than the factory board on both names mentioned. As far as isolation of each game. That would be my plan. If they all have sep ticket printers etc. I have never seen any board in linked mode or standalone mode pay off more than what was entered in the LONG RUN of time. Etc as you mentioned I think 85% - 130% makes no sense ! Short term possible long term to regain a accurate - taking audits weekly or monthly No it does not make sense. Kill the black box.  Man will be happy once again !  Read between them lines lol 

[wtjames]

Thanks rocket...I'm def gonna kill the box and hook up one bill acceptor and run 3000 or so in then set it on auto play (dip 7) if it holds then I'll
Spend 2000 or so on bill acceptors lol that will actually be wayyyy cheaper than running them as is...it pisses me off seeing folks play all day on 20.00 on a machine that's payed out 110%...I'll def keep you posted..as well as slot buyer..he's helped me too..you guys are awesome

[knagl]

Looking at the receipt you printed, $3,000 coin-in is a drop in the bucket as far as slot machines are concerned.  Machines make their money over hundreds of thousands or millions of spins.  There are going to be weeks or even a month here and there where the machines are going to pay back well over 100%.  If your operation is not financially able to handle that, I'm sorry to say it, but your business isn't going to last.

all 15 machines are paying between 85-130%...

In the short term with little coin-in, that's more than expected for any legal payback percentage program.

[wtjames]

You would def know more than me,I'm pretty small time here in ga...we have phone cards sweepstakes for now..hence the need for a credit box for phone pins and to add money to the machines..however in the past I had 30 pogs on the old long boards with 400x software and they held 40-50% for all the time I had them,roughly 6 years..even on a fresh reset they made money so I guess that's all I've had to compare to...I'm not greedy but after 3-4 months and 50-6000$ in game play I would like to make a little money..even Cadillac jack games such as gold touch and southern gold hold there numbers fairly well although there holds are usually 25-30% depending on what version software you run.. I'm at least fortunate enough to live 30 mins from Cadillac
Jack and there tech Patrick is a good friend so I get repairs pretty cheap...thanks for all the feedback...means alot

[wtjames]

Oh and ga has no law for percentages...all legal nudge games can run any kind of way just no cash payouts...sweepstakes for now is 100% wide open..I expect that will change soon

[ROCKET]

LoL 30 min from Caddy Jack. Tucker Ga. Great place. I will send my two nieces down to your humble casino slot parlor etc----      I will send them 100 bucks each. They were taught by me in past 10 legal gambling yrs. I should get a wopper of a Xmas present paid out on those machines James  lol. Even have enough to continue down \or up to peach tree plaza. Sit on the 360 deg rotating rest. + get dinner +  have some of that clear fire water. In the "Bat " Bottle. Barcardi + splash of coke 3 cubes. + have some imported jumbo shrimp cocktail + some oysters. For the killing of the BLACK BOX. Lol.         4 dozen oysters on the half shell equals one Blue pill with mood ! Ha. Now I've got Statfreak +  Captain Happy hungry.  Oh we are fixing games here.  I forgot.   As far as Caddilac Jack. fantastic boards. I highly reccomend. So I aint dead Buzzy.  + Gordy send me the addy again. Long story. Sudden death after our last email exchange.   All better now.good luck James. Don't forget as Knag said it won't spin around over night ! But it will.  Just pull the long hairs out 1 at a time. They do settle down after a bit.  But keep that 6-inch stack of Ben Franklins for my nieces.   They may win. But will attract every pervert \hillbilly + just horn dog within 25 miles to play.  LOL. I'm hungry gota run Rocket   

[wtjames]

Lol sure will rocket...I've got the money waiting..and trust me I would rather give my money to pretty girls as opposed to the 60 plus crowd that takes my money home now...thanks for all the help man...greatly appreciated..

[billyhaven]

510s are good versions of software...the one's that end with a 5, ie 585 595 are "sweepstakes" versions where they label the games as sweepstakes...but I have seen several boards go in the negative...it happens, just let them play out and now they are in the negative, they will start holding.  If you do a hard reset, you run the risk of paying out more money because they are pretty volitile when you reset them.  I reset one an it hit for $1000 and was ~$500 or $600 neative on day 1! 

Here is a POG manual on someone's website

http://www.slotsdirect.com/potofgold/Pot_of_gold_CD/Good%20POG%20Manual.pdf

[billyhaven]

i need to buy bot-o-gold software version 510s
any help where to get this chips .

[SANDIEGO]

 IM writting to you because you seem to be one of the smartest guys on this sight, and you answered someones question today. I'm not a pro, I just have a convenient store and need to make an extra $100.00 a day. I have a quarter pusher, which does about that, but people want to play Pot O Gold, for the keno. 
What percentage or cap I should place the machine.
What  POG Board is ideal
Would adding a chip help.
What should I charge per play .01, .05, .10, .25.
My city has no regulation

thanks ROnnie